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kureshii:
--- Quote from: bhus121 on December 26, 2011, 07:39:11 AM ---They sub anime not only for fun but also for sharing with people who don't get access to anime in their country.
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And who made you chief of fansubbing?
DmonHiro:
--- Quote from: Aadieu on December 26, 2011, 04:33:49 AM ---Thing is, though, the promise of more bitrate kills the original torrent (of which I just had one file accidentally in this case, others lost to computer failure), and we're forced to download 2-3 times more and then actually suffer worse quality. THAT SUCKS.
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Here's a crazy idea: don't download their releases. Nobody is holding a gun to your head. Also, just because you can't see the difference, doesn't mean everyone can't. You've got some nerve stating your opinion as facts.
Temuthril:
--- Quote from: DarthSpecial on December 26, 2011, 03:18:44 AM ---Whatever the width x length is on the DVD is the maximum that you're going to be able to pull off of it without getting an upscale that just wastes data space. I don't know what this limitation is.
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720x480
--- Quote ---Also, any file over 4.37 GB won't burn onto a standard DVD without using special procedures to chop it up, and doing that, saving multiple pieces, and reassembling and parity checking the result is a nuisance. Since the original published DVD held the show in its VIDEO_TS file, and it was under 4.37 GB, I don't see any reason for anything to ever get any bigger than that.
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Dual layers, Blu-Rays.
Also not many even rip DVDs these days, most do just BDs.
ritterrunkel:
I didn't read through all replies so maybe I'm just repeating some arguments. I don't see any good reason for 10-bit encoding atm and here is why:
I can't play those files on my two laptops. One is a old PowerBook with no software support (VLC stopped supporting OSX 10.4 some time ago), the other is a Netbook with hardware video decoding chip which also doesn't support 10 bit videos. Someone here suggested I should get new hardware, but until recently I was unemployed and simply couldn't afford it.
What do we gain by using 10-bit encoding? Better efficiency, which means files that are a little smaller for similar perceived video quality. On the other hand bandwith and disk space are cheap, so I think if you want to have better quality the best way is to increase bitrate until you're satisfied. Those files will still play on all machines and everyone is happy. I like how the movie scene does it. They have strict encoding rules and non conforming releases are nuked. Those rules make sure all releases play on any software and hardware.
I don't want to stand in the way of early adopters, but please don't forget those of us that can't afford a new machine every two years.
Jazzkatt:
If you are worried about space buy another hard drive . Space is not the issue here. the ISSUE is PLAYABILITY!
--- Quote from: DarthSpecial on December 26, 2011, 03:18:44 AM ---I think there's another issue here that isn't being addressed. On many shows, particularly the older ones, there is a certain amount of detail and no more. Whatever the width x length is on the DVD is the maximum that you're going to be able to pull off of it without getting an upscale that just wastes data space. I don't know what this limitation is. But I'm not in favor of needlessly wasting my storage space with downloads that don't have to be that big to play well. Also, any file over 4.37 GB won't burn onto a standard DVD without using special procedures to chop it up, and doing that, saving multiple pieces, and reassembling and parity checking the result is a nuisance. Since the original published DVD held the show in its VIDEO_TS file, and it was under 4.37 GB, I don't see any reason for anything to ever get any bigger than that. (I've not seen this happening yet, but that's the direction this whole thing is heading.) I'm already downloading shows that get some lag in the dialog without the CPU being dedicated to doing nothing other than running the player.
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First you support 10-bit because it saves space. Now you support bloated 10-bit calling it quality.You really should be a politician . I bet you would even vote in favor of S.O.P.A. and I.P.A.
If the only release of the anime series we want is in 10-bit or worse (bloated 10-bit as is the case with Coalgirls) ,then YES you are holding a gun to our heads. Releasing fan subs without regard for those who watch them is stupid. ばか
And I don't download your or CG's releases any more and I quit seeding them also. in fact I am in the process of replacing them all even if they are 8-bit. We should NOT support those who think they are too good to support us.
--- Quote from: DmonHiro on December 26, 2011, 08:05:12 AM ---
--- Quote from: Aadieu on December 26, 2011, 04:33:49 AM ---Thing is, though, the promise of more bitrate kills the original torrent (of which I just had one file accidentally in this case, others lost to computer failure), and we're forced to download 2-3 times more and then actually suffer worse quality. THAT SUCKS.
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Here's a crazy idea: don't download their releases. Nobody is holding a gun to your head. Also, just because you can't see the difference, doesn't mean everyone can't. You've got some nerve stating your opinion as facts.
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Duki3003 edit:Don't double post.
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