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Hi10P and 8-bit encodes
RedSuisei:
Wow someone's got a grudge.
@Aadieu: I'm no fan of Coalgirls myself (as in, unless there's nothing better than theirs, then I won't take theirs, but I will if there's no better option), but your statements are truly ridiculous.
--- Quote from: Aadieu ---but using the exact same settings, filesize will increase exactly 25%
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Ever tried encoding 8-bit vs 10-bit yourself? If you haven't, then stop talking. I've done several tests back when 10-bit was just introduced, and in fact, for most sources, same setting still give smaller filesize for 10-bit. This decrease may be large or small, depending on the source. There are sometimes cases where 10-bit do produce larger filesize, but this is usually happen on very grainy anime with very low crf (as a comparison, Macross DYRl, which was grainy as hell, is still smaller in 10-bit than it is in 8-bit at crf 15, though it was only smaller by 2%).
--- Quote from: Aadieu ---review how we evaluate and approve releases.
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Have you ever participated in a comparison done here? I have done so a couple of time and there's no need to review how BakaBT evaluate and approve releases. In fact, if your "review" means to solely ban Coalgirls, then it's much worse than what we have currently, which sticks to "whichever is better, we'll take it."
--- Quote from: Aadieu ---Do recall that bakabt is supposed to be choosing to archive THE BEST. And Coalgirls makes comparison extra-easy by using other people's subs. As such, any review of any possible Coalgirls offer simply MUST contain a comparison with the original subbers' releases and it MUST be significantly better to warrant approval.
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They do, in fact. In most BD comparison I've seen the comparison to the TV rips is done as well.
--- Quote from: Aadieu ---passing out credit to those who don't deserve it and disheartening fansubbers by slapping on the tag [Bloatgirls] for doing nothing productive whatsoever, yet removing the [Original Translator] tag, which is who actually deserves recognition
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Ever went to Coalgirls' site? They explicitly state whose subs they use there. The torrent offers on Baka also provides info on that (at least for the recent ones, I seem to faintly remember older ones sometimes don't have those info). They removed the original group's tag, but they don't claim that it was their subs. In the first place, who are you to complain about the work that other people do, and not your own work? Oh, and Coalgirls aren't the only one who use other group's subs, many other does as well.
--- Quote from: Aadieu ---newfags who believe Coalgirls is a fansubber, and most Coalgirls watchers never know what group made the subs for the shows that they liked.
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Is that Coalgirls' fault? They do state whose subs they use on their site, the info is also available here, if people still don't know whose subs they use, then it's their fault, not Coalgirls.
And as you say, this site is dedicated to quality. If the best quality happens to be using other's subs, then so be it. If Coalgirls happen to be the best quality, then theirs will be taken. If theirs aren't the best, then it won't be taken. Simple as that. So far you've only been saying about their release of FMA:B which, according to you, is inferior to the TV rips (which won't be allowed to be uploaded here in the first place), but that doesn't mean it holds true for every single one of their releases.
Oh, also, this is a thread about what to do about 10-bit and 8-bit offers, not a Coalgirls bashing thread. Feel free to bash them on their site if you want.
@Zom-B: Recent CCCP has multi-threaded version of ffdshow and LAV Filters.
Aadieu:
--- Quote from: RedSuisei on December 27, 2011, 12:46:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Aadieu ---passing out credit to those who don't deserve it and disheartening fansubbers by slapping on the tag [Bloatgirls] for doing nothing productive whatsoever, yet removing the [Original Translator] tag, which is who actually deserves recognition
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Ever went to Coalgirls' site? They explicitly state whose subs they use there. The torrent offers on Baka also provides info on that (at least for the recent ones, I seem to faintly remember older ones sometimes don't have those info). They removed the original group's tag, but they don't claim that it was their subs. In the first place, who are you to complain about the work that other people do, and not your own work? Oh, and Coalgirls aren't the only one who use other group's subs, many other does as well.
--- Quote from: Aadieu ---newfags who believe Coalgirls is a fansubber, and most Coalgirls watchers never know what group made the subs for the shows that they liked.
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Is that Coalgirls' fault? They do state whose subs they use on their site, the info is also available here, if people still don't know whose subs they use, then it's their fault, not Coalgirls.
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Indeed, is that Coalgirl's fault? the [TAGS] that don't name the fansubber obviously have shit-all to do with it.
Obviously, posting credit in your blog is a far better way of crediting work than, say: "LastExile 720p Complete (Zero-Raws - english subtitles muxed from a4e and aniboters)" {actual folder name in actual torrent, with admittedly not-so-great video quality... but still! }
As to uploading BDs, yeah, some people actually call for comparisons to TVrips, but most of the time, that comparison is reduced to "ooh, more bitrate woohoo pick that one!".
RedSuisei:
--- Quote from: Aadieu on December 27, 2011, 01:05:13 PM ---Indeed, is that Coalgirl's fault? the [TAGS] that don't name the fansubber obviously have shit-all to do with it.
Obviously, posting credit in your blog is a far better way of crediting work than, say: "LastExile 720p Complete (Zero-Raws - english subtitles muxed from a4e and aniboters)" {actual folder name in actual torrent, with admittedly not-so-great video quality... but still! }
As to uploading BDs, yeah, some people actually call for comparisons to TVrips, but most of the time, that comparison is reduced to "ooh, more bitrate woohoo pick that one!".
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Then feel free to ban every single re-releaser from your download list. Ban Coalgirls, THORA, Doki (they sometimes use others' subs, e.g. Madoka) etc. Me, I'd prefer quality. Note that most of the real quality fag also do a research on the subs that the re-releasers use, so it's not as if the work of the original group went unnoticed.
And you definitely have never participated to any comparison in this site if you can still say that.
Aerah:
^ It is true that 'size = quality' is one of the easier comparisons one can make.
Additionally the whole "we benefited from 10-bit, our file sizes are as big or bigger now!" is a sign of needing to find a new distributor to download from.
--- Quote from: Zom-B on December 27, 2011, 12:22:45 PM ---*snip*
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Stop using MadVR... (this is an assumption, it seems popular now but it is bad performance wise)
It is surprising how many performance issues can be fixed with "use DXVA when possible", "don't use VLC", "user CoreAVC", "use EVR:CP on V/7/8", "don't use MadVR"
Trading performance for quality one can do "don't deblock all frames" and "don't dither 10-bit" and "use Haali Renderer"
So 10-bit can be watched on lower-end (not low-end) hardware at a cost of quality.
That is some people will simply have to enjoy Hi10p at a significantly lower quality than Hi8P.
DmonHiro:
madvr does use more cpu, but the quality is much better. it also does not dither the video to 8 bit
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