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bobthedog:
:) Oh, I'm not embarrassed: after all, I'm not the one acting like a frustrated wee tinpot dictator who tells other people what opinions they should have.
I'm adult enough to accept that others might have differing opinions and not try to control them or silence them. This is at the heart of my complaint, incidentally: people need the maturity to see that not everyone thinks as they do, or demand that it be so. Have a lovely day.
RedSuisei:
--- Quote from: bobthedog on December 27, 2011, 09:38:45 PM --- :) Oh, I'm not embarrassed: after all, I'm not the one acting like a frustrated wee tinpot dictator who tells other people what opinions they should have.
I'm adult enough to accept that others might have differing opinions and not try to control them or silence them. This is at the heart of my complaint, incidentally: people need the maturity to see that not everyone thinks as they do, or demand that it be so. Have a lovely day.
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Well, you don't act like a frustrated wee tinpot dictator who tells other people what opinions they should have. You act like a frustrated wee tinpot whiner who thinks they can tell people to cater to each and every one of their needs.
As I see it, you are the one who demand people to still stick to 8-bit to cater to your preference, and demand than everyone caters to your opinion, so yeah, you're not adult enough. Also, not adult enough to know better than to post unrelated things on a thread. Have a lovely, and hopefully not embarassing, day.
bobthedog:
Oh dear...
Fine: you can have the Last Word. ;)
OnDeed:
--- Quote from: RedSuisei on December 27, 2011, 09:32:32 PM ---Oh and, as I've said repeatedly, BakaBT never considered removing all 8-bit releases. They are thinking about treating 10-bit and 8-bit equally, as in, whichever one is better will be taken.
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Come on, if you put it like that, it looks like you are doing it intentionally to be demagogic or something.
It *does* mean removing 8bit. Calling it "equal treatment" is nice and fluffy, but it is about removing 8bit.
Of course, if there is no 10bit to replace it, teh particular 8bit will stay. However right now, for every 10-bit uploaded, under the current practice, there would be a place for an 8-bit fallback for the "unwashed masses".
If you implement your "equal treatment", there won't be no fallbacks. The only way for an 8bit release to be accepted if there already is a 10-bit offer would be for it to eliminate the 10-bit one in the evaluation. Similarly, any 8-bit release that will fail to over-merit a 10-bit one will get eliminated.
So yeah, 8-bit *does get removed*. Calling it equal treatment is hypocritical, because you/we (10-bit enabled dudes) won't lose anything, while the "equaly treated" non-10bit dudes will lose the ability to grab torrents that got their 8-bit versions nuked by 10bit ones.
RedSuisei:
--- Quote from: OnDeed on December 27, 2011, 10:00:06 PM ---Come on, if you put it like that, it looks like you are doing it intentionally to be demagogic or something.
It *does* mean removing 8bit. Calling it "equal treatment" is nice and fluffy, but it is about removing 8bit.
Of course, if there is no 10bit to replace it, teh particular 8bit will stay. However right now, for every 10-bit uploaded, under the current practice, there would be a place for an 8-bit fallback for the "unwashed masses".
If you implement your "equal treatment", there won't be no fallbacks. The only way for an 8bit release to be accepted if there already is a 10-bit offer would be for it to eliminate the 10-bit one in the evaluation. Similarly, any 8-bit release that will fail to over-merit a 10-bit one will get eliminated.
So yeah, 8-bit *does get removed*. Calling it equal treatment is hypocritical, because you/we (10-bit enabled dudes) won't lose anything, while the "equaly treated" non-10bit dudes will lose the ability to grab torrents which got 8-bit versions nuked by 10bit ones.
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I thought I say "whichever one is better would be taken" there? As I see it, that's the point of equally treating 10-bit and 8-bit releases. Equal treatment, means whichever one is better, will be taken. You definitely can't say the current one is "equal treatment," seeing that if the best 10-bit is of lower quality than the best 8-bit, the 10-bit won't be accepted, but if the best 8-bit is of lower quality than the best 10-bit, then the 8-bit will still be accepted. Equal? Not in my book. What about this: If the best 10-bit is better than the best 8-bit, then the 10-bit will be accepted. Conversely, if the best 8-bit is better than the best 10-bit, then the 8-bit will be accepted. Equal, no? At least it is in my book.
Of course, I also never said anything about equally treating 10-bit enabled dudes and non-10bit enabled dudes, I was talking about treating the releases themselves. If BakaBT is supposed to treat all of their users equally, then as I said, they should also accept ultra LQ releases since some people prefer those, or can only get those (I know a lot of my friends who are stuck with 512kbps internet). And I thought I also say "never considered removing all 8-bit releases", which implies that BakaBT won't remove them all, but some would be removed if it does warrant removal, which, as you said, some of the 8-bit *does get removed*.
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