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Hi10P and 8-bit encodes
DmonHiro:
--- Quote from: Aadieu on January 02, 2012, 05:44:09 PM ---OK, maybe I called it the wrong term. Filters and stuff. WHATEVER... the whole point of watching somebody else's encodes was not having to know all this technical crap just to get a good viewing experience, no?
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Oh, filters. OK then. But now, in all seriousness, what technical crap are you talking about.
To get 10bit working you either go the minimal route: download and install CCCP and use MPC-HC.
If you want to get the best quality, you will have to give up on some CPU, and go the advanced route after getting CCCP:
- download and install lavfilters
- download and install madVR
- set up lav and mad to be used as default.
How is that complicated? It literally takes 15 minutes, and you don't even need to know what these things are. If you don't want to use them, that's your (and everyone else's problem, but THEY WORK).
If you don't have a good enough computer, that's not the software's fault, so you can't claim it sucks just because your pentium 4 from 2005 can't play it.
Aadieu:
Right, I can't get 10bit to work. Really visible for that 10-bit screenshot of horrific banding I posted above...
...and the one-stop 10bit solution is Pot Player, not CCCP.
The technical crap is figuring out what works and what doesn't past defaults.
DmonHiro:
--- Quote from: Aadieu on January 02, 2012, 06:17:06 PM ---Right, I can't get 10bit to work. Really visible for that 10-bit screenshot of horrific banding I posted above...
...and the one-stop 10bit solution is Pot Player, not CCCP.
The technical crap is figuring out what works and what doesn't past defaults.
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OK, so use PotPlayer then. I still don't understand what your problem is. You say you have your PC connected to your HDTV. You say you have PotPlayer, the one stop solution. Then what the heck IS your problem? If you can't get 10bit to work, how is that anyone's fault but your own? Thousands and thousands of people have gotten it to work, do you think we're all some sort of super-genius with computers from the future? We're just average-joe's who read a guide, followed the steps, and used our brains.
Aadieu:
--- Quote from: DmonHiro on January 02, 2012, 06:19:51 PM --- I still don't understand what your problem is.
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10-bit is FUGLY.
In practice, it is consistently WORSE than 8-bit releases at the moment.
Whatever possible gains there are, we either lose them and then some from imperfect software support, and encoders are still clueless on how to encode them properly. Look at that screenshot half a page up, DOES THAT LOOK LIKE LESS BANDING TO YOU?!?!
DmonHiro:
--- Quote from: Aadieu on January 02, 2012, 07:11:27 PM ---10-bit is FUGLY.
In practice, it is consistently WORSE than 8-bit releases at the moment.
Whatever possible gains there are, we either lose them and then some from imperfect software support, and encoders are still clueless on how to encode them properly. Look at that screenshot half a page up, DOES THAT LOOK LIKE LESS BANDING TO YOU?!?!
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Less banding then WHAT? If you want to make a comparison you have to show the exact same frame encoded from the exact same source at the exact same settings, with the only difference being the color depth. You can't just post a random picture and say "Look at all that banding, 10bit sucks!" without showing us how the 8bit and source look. How do I even know that picture if from a 10bit encode anyway? It could be upscaled from a 480p 8bit encode for all I know. Because you say so? Gonna need a little more then that.
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