Author Topic: Hyouka | Ice-cream [Series] (Read 17107 times)

GoGeTa006 · « **Reply #140 on:** July 02, 2012, 12:51:07 PM »

Quote from: Havoc10K on July 02, 2012, 10:32:42 AM

She doesn't work really hard to do it, she orders people around lol.

Also, since this is the result of the case, it's not a mystery to begin with, just a misunderstanding and difference of opinion.

To be honest,
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Oreki didn't lose this, like he said, they were given wrong interpretation of the information, their course was dead set before they knew it. Oreki's solution was only based off on the information granted, key information was not given, the solution could be only one.

She manipulated the investigation and made Oreki the neutral bad guy, after the conversation at the end she had with his sister, the way his sister ended the conversation by simply logging out, I'd say she had her ass handed to her. She should apologize but she won't. Like she said, she was in charge of not letting the project fail, and in her opinion the movie would be a fail, she was also in charge of the information.

No one told her to hide facts or hamper the original idea the script writer had. She herself has become what we all hate most, the greedy industry that only wants results and money and doesn't care about substance. It's true that Oreki's solution was great, but it wasn't true to the idea of the story that was supposed to happen. The writer did a mistake by not making sure about the poll, but even then once the script is prepared only the person in charge can make changes, and since the result must always benefit the person in charge, the ending result could not be as the original script intended.

Like Oreki said, it was never about solving a mystery, so this isn't a mystery. It was about writing a script that favoured the persons in charge opinion.

Oreki got annoyed not because he actually failed to solve it, since it wasn't about solving it to begin with. He got annoyed because she outright played them like fools. The same reason is why his sister logged out without saying anything. Instead of accepting her failure, she made an excuse.

There you have it, it's simple.

I did wonder why she did not appeal to me, she was pretty and cold and strict, but something was different, I didn't like her. Now I know why, she's like Bethesda and EA, results results results! money money money! That's her career path.

wait how are you so sure she was talking to his sister? was this like stated?. . .I thought it was just iono . . .hinted or something, but you seem so secure about it I believe I missed it?

Bob2004 · « **Reply #141 on:** July 02, 2012, 08:15:13 PM »

Quote from: GoGeTa006 on July 02, 2012, 12:51:07 PM

Quote from: Havoc10K on July 02, 2012, 10:32:42 AM
She doesn't work really hard to do it, she orders people around lol.

Also, since this is the result of the case, it's not a mystery to begin with, just a misunderstanding and difference of opinion.

To be honest,
(click to show/hide)
Oreki didn't lose this, like he said, they were given wrong interpretation of the information, their course was dead set before they knew it. Oreki's solution was only based off on the information granted, key information was not given, the solution could be only one.

She manipulated the investigation and made Oreki the neutral bad guy, after the conversation at the end she had with his sister, the way his sister ended the conversation by simply logging out, I'd say she had her ass handed to her. She should apologize but she won't. Like she said, she was in charge of not letting the project fail, and in her opinion the movie would be a fail, she was also in charge of the information.

No one told her to hide facts or hamper the original idea the script writer had. She herself has become what we all hate most, the greedy industry that only wants results and money and doesn't care about substance. It's true that Oreki's solution was great, but it wasn't true to the idea of the story that was supposed to happen. The writer did a mistake by not making sure about the poll, but even then once the script is prepared only the person in charge can make changes, and since the result must always benefit the person in charge, the ending result could not be as the original script intended.

Like Oreki said, it was never about solving a mystery, so this isn't a mystery. It was about writing a script that favoured the persons in charge opinion.

Oreki got annoyed not because he actually failed to solve it, since it wasn't about solving it to begin with. He got annoyed because she outright played them like fools. The same reason is why his sister logged out without saying anything. Instead of accepting her failure, she made an excuse.

There you have it, it's simple.

I did wonder why she did not appeal to me, she was pretty and cold and strict, but something was different, I didn't like her. Now I know why, she's like Bethesda and EA, results results results! money money money! That's her career path.

wait how are you so sure she was talking to his sister? was this like stated?. . .I thought it was just iono . . .hinted or something, but you seem so secure about it I believe I missed it?

I didn't catch it either. Then again, if there's one thing Mazui aren't so good at, it's complex typesetting, so trying to keep up with those IM conversations was quite tough.

EDIT: No, it was never actually stated. All we know is that she got a senpai, who is currently on the other side of the world, to help. That does kind of suggest it was his sister, though.

Muk666 · « **Reply #142 on:** July 02, 2012, 08:25:28 PM »

But they were talking about Oreki

Havoc10K · « **Reply #143 on:** July 02, 2012, 09:21:48 PM »

Quote from: Bob2004 on July 02, 2012, 08:15:13 PM

Quote from: GoGeTa006 on July 02, 2012, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: Havoc10K on July 02, 2012, 10:32:42 AM
She doesn't work really hard to do it, she orders people around lol.

Also, since this is the result of the case, it's not a mystery to begin with, just a misunderstanding and difference of opinion.

To be honest,
(click to show/hide)
Oreki didn't lose this, like he said, they were given wrong interpretation of the information, their course was dead set before they knew it. Oreki's solution was only based off on the information granted, key information was not given, the solution could be only one.

She manipulated the investigation and made Oreki the neutral bad guy, after the conversation at the end she had with his sister, the way his sister ended the conversation by simply logging out, I'd say she had her ass handed to her. She should apologize but she won't. Like she said, she was in charge of not letting the project fail, and in her opinion the movie would be a fail, she was also in charge of the information.

No one told her to hide facts or hamper the original idea the script writer had. She herself has become what we all hate most, the greedy industry that only wants results and money and doesn't care about substance. It's true that Oreki's solution was great, but it wasn't true to the idea of the story that was supposed to happen. The writer did a mistake by not making sure about the poll, but even then once the script is prepared only the person in charge can make changes, and since the result must always benefit the person in charge, the ending result could not be as the original script intended.

Like Oreki said, it was never about solving a mystery, so this isn't a mystery. It was about writing a script that favoured the persons in charge opinion.

Oreki got annoyed not because he actually failed to solve it, since it wasn't about solving it to begin with. He got annoyed because she outright played them like fools. The same reason is why his sister logged out without saying anything. Instead of accepting her failure, she made an excuse.

There you have it, it's simple.

I did wonder why she did not appeal to me, she was pretty and cold and strict, but something was different, I didn't like her. Now I know why, she's like Bethesda and EA, results results results! money money money! That's her career path.

wait how are you so sure she was talking to his sister? was this like stated?. . .I thought it was just iono . . .hinted or something, but you seem so secure about it I believe I missed it?

I didn't catch it either. Then again, if there's one thing Mazui aren't so good at, it's complex typesetting, so trying to keep up with those IM conversations was quite tough.

EDIT: No, it was never actually stated. All we know is that she got a senpai, who is currently on the other side of the world, to help. That does kind of suggest it was her sister, though.

HIS sister.

And yeah, far as we know, his sister is currently on the other side of the world, she is Senpai to her, and they were talking about Oreki.
We don't know ANY other characters that would be her senpai and she is a senpai to Oreki, and calling him an idiot.
I'm putting my bet at it that it was his sister, simply because she implored him to keep the classics club operational, she pushed him into other tasks regarding the club and she recommended Oreki to begin with.

Watch the previous episode where the senpai talks to someone on the net as well.

ETL19 · « **Reply #144 on:** July 04, 2012, 04:12:00 AM »

i've caught up to ep 11. funny how "Empress" made a fool of herself.

EmptyMemory · « **Reply #145 on:** July 04, 2012, 05:00:37 PM »

I didn't even think of his sister. Fuck.

GoGeTa006 · « **Reply #146 on:** July 09, 2012, 12:11:45 AM »

FFUUUU
Pool episode is LQ

I want chitanda bikini in 720p

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and the festival looks legit. . .

My goodness . . .double chitanda in one day. . . EEEEPPIIICCC

I want her nao!

I wonder why they are hiding the sister's face. . .will this be something important l8r on?

Muk666 · « **Reply #147 on:** July 09, 2012, 12:40:04 AM »

Finally the show is back on track after those horrible mystery movie episodes. 2 amazing episodes, 11,5 was horrible quality but had what makes the show special, pointless thing Chitanda gets curious about and then plenty of her in the entire episode.

Episode 12 shows that Chitanda makes the series what it is =D

Mry087 · « **Reply #148 on:** July 09, 2012, 04:20:50 AM »

Quote from: Muk666 on July 09, 2012, 12:40:04 AM

Finally the show is back on track after those horrible mystery movie episodes. 2 amazing episodes, 11,5 was horrible quality but had what makes the show special, pointless thing Chitanda gets curious about and then plenty of her in the entire episode.

Episode 12 shows that Chitanda makes the series what it is =D

watching em now, I was also only able to find some shitty quality 11.5s

edit: seriously though - 11.5 my eyes they burn
edit edit: it was over too fast and im impatient

Havoc10K · « **Reply #149 on:** July 09, 2012, 07:00:33 AM »

Houtaro actually missed his sister and wanted to spend the time with her without telling a soul, but seriously, I'm gonna need a higher version of 11.5, that webrip is just disasterribad.

Anyways, Houtarou should have complimented Chitanda when they were alone then that she looked nice in that swimsuit, although it barely looks like anything with this quality, but I think him complimenting someone would be too obvious, then again, Chitanda would keep it to herself.

As for Ep12
Damn that was amazing, Chitanda in a real pinch hahahahah

And Oreki's smile, damn.

New ED is great

I think next week there will be a new OP then.

Garret02 · « **Reply #150 on:** July 09, 2012, 09:34:20 AM »

Am I the only one that doesn't like Chitanda? Seriously, she's sooo annoying and she's polluting Oreki. He should stay lazy, cynical and assertive.

ConsiderPhlebas · « **Reply #151 on:** July 09, 2012, 09:57:44 AM »

Quote from: Havoc10K on July 09, 2012, 07:00:33 AM

New ED is great

It's indeed hilarious

jevitsj · « **Reply #152 on:** July 09, 2012, 05:12:35 PM »

Really great episodes of Hyouka this week.

11.5: Really bad quality but nice episode. I really think Oreki should've said something to Chitanda when they were alone.
12: I found it really funny how Chitanda was distracted by everything she came across, the festival looks nice thus far. And that new ED was also great.

Muk666 · « **Reply #153 on:** July 09, 2012, 05:19:52 PM »

Quote from: Garret02 on July 09, 2012, 09:34:20 AM

Am I the only one that doesn't like Chitanda? Seriously, she's sooo annoying and she's polluting Oreki. He should stay lazy, cynical and assertive.

BURN THE HERETIC!!!

I really doubt she will change him because he knows he likes her and he has not really changed so far (except the fact that he cant say no to her requests).

Havoc10K · « **Reply #154 on:** July 09, 2012, 05:31:50 PM »

Quote from: Muk666 on July 09, 2012, 05:19:52 PM

Quote from: Garret02 on July 09, 2012, 09:34:20 AM
Am I the only one that doesn't like Chitanda? Seriously, she's sooo annoying and she's polluting Oreki. He should stay lazy, cynical and assertive.

BURN THE HERETIC!!!
*snip*

AYE SIR!

razorblade81 · « **Reply #155 on:** July 09, 2012, 09:06:39 PM »

Quote from: Meomix on December 29, 2011, 01:25:27 PM

Quote from: Bob2004 on December 29, 2011, 01:20:34 PM
This might be interesting. The picture looks good, and Kyoto Animation have created some real masterpieces in the past.

Quote from: Meomix on December 29, 2011, 12:16:17 PM
After that embarrassment i'm surprised Kyoto Animation dare show their faces ever again.

Embarrassment? What embarrassment? It's true Nichijou wasn't amazing, but it wasn't bad either - I wouldn't call it an embarrassment. And most of it's problems were inherent in the original manga, and weren't KyoAni's fault particularly.

I'm talking about Endless Eight brother, didn't know they were behind Nichijou though.

I liked endless 8, I thought it was a nice change. But I like a lot of anime. I am pretty broad in my spectrum. See?
http://myanimelist.net/animelist/razorblade81

Havoc10K · « **Reply #156 on:** July 09, 2012, 09:19:18 PM »

Quote from: razorblade81 on July 09, 2012, 09:06:39 PM

I liked endless 8

razorblade81 · « **Reply #157 on:** July 09, 2012, 09:24:44 PM »

Haha, nice!

sciencerob · « **Reply #158 on:** July 14, 2012, 05:37:10 AM »

I had my doubts about this series but I watched up to episode to 12 today and I can't wait for 13. I am very curious about how they are going to sell all those books, lol.

Garret02 · « **Reply #159 on:** July 15, 2012, 10:24:57 AM »

That would be terrible parallel universe...

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