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So, I uh... bought a mac. WTF do I do?
kitamesume:
^ i meant games thats designed for windows but has a wee bit of support for mac.
GoGeTa006:
anyways, I had the same issue when I first used a mac (I was like WTF?)
but give it a couple of days. . .TBH you having so much computers makes it sound like you've got the knack or something. . .(hopefully)
so if you're not retarded you'll find your way around really fast and realize that the OS is way better. . .
TBH everything is drag'n'drop based. . .
what machine did you get?
is it an intel based or PowerPC based. . .cause TBH the G5's are amazing! and you should start by reformating and starting from scratch =from what you said, I assume its a laptop so if its not intel its a G4 (TBH my brother's G4 is 10 years old and he still uses it and he is still very happy with it) and he is not a gamer. . .casual computer user.
anyways, right clicking is rare in macs, you only use it if you are (or were) a windows user and many things can only be done with "right-click" mac has this drag n drop and other things that make it easier once you get the hang of it
AceHigh:
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on January 11, 2012, 04:44:17 PM ---so if you're not retarded you'll find your way around really fast and realize that the OS is way better. . .
--- End quote ---
OS's primary function is to be intermediary link with an interface between applications and the hardware on which they run. Thus the quantity of the programs capable on running using an OS is directly proportional to the usefulness of an OS. I am sure you are familiar with the fact of how few applications a Mac OS can run in comparison to it's main competitor, so please don't spread blatant lies like that. Maybe your words will hold any truth to them the day when I can run all my games, CAD/CAM and JTAG applications on an Apple made OS.
GoGeTa006:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on January 11, 2012, 04:59:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on January 11, 2012, 04:44:17 PM ---so if you're not retarded you'll find your way around really fast and realize that the OS is way better. . .
--- End quote ---
OS's primary function is to be intermediary link with an interface between applications and the hardware on which they run. Thus the quantity of the programs capable on running using an OS is directly proportional to the usefulness of an OS. I am sure you are familiar with the fact of how few applications a Mac OS can run in comparison to it's main competitor, so please don't spread blatant lies like that. Maybe your words will hold any truth to them the day when I can run all my games, CAD/CAM and JTAG applications on an Apple made OS.
--- End quote ---
I will admit mac has many "compatibility" issues, and I know that if all those games/programs had enough support for mac the mac would run them even more efficiently than windows. . .
from what I know (and feel free to correct me) the deal with MacOS (based of unix) is the way they manage the RAM memory
Windows fragments it as it goes along, MacOS keeps defragmenting it as it goes along, taking more space than required per program (so you could say it can run less programs if you were to saturate it) but the problem on windows systems is that the excess of fragmentaion in the RAM memory eventually causes that fatal crash, program not responding and ultimately OS freeze. . .which to this day I havent seen MacOS freeze (i've seen programs freeze but not the "I have to hold down the power button to shut it down" freeze
(click to show/hide)
Windows:
open word (requires 1 kb of RAM) (Windows grabs 1 kb of RAM)
open winamp (requires 2 kb of RAM) (windows grabs 2 kb of RAM)
open IE (requires 4 kb of RAM) (windows grabs 4 kb of RAM)
open new word file (requires 2 kb of RAM) *Windows now has fragmented Word RAM into 2 parts*
open new IE tab (requires 2 kb of RAM) *Fragmented IE RAM usage*
so your RAM looks like this:
(NOTICE RAM IS FRAGMENTED INTO 5 PIECES)
WORD 1KB| WINAMP 2KB | IE 4KB | WORD 2KB | IE 2 KB | etc. . .
while doing the same thing on a mac would look like this:
(NOTICE RAM IS FRAGMENTED INTO 3 PIECES)
WORD 3KB used (10 KB available) | WINAMP 2KB USED (10 available) | IE 6KB USED (10 available)
and as those 10 kb are filled, the RAM is defragmented and allows for more memory than its required
thats what I've understood
kitamesume:
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on January 11, 2012, 05:33:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: AceHigh on January 11, 2012, 04:59:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on January 11, 2012, 04:44:17 PM ---so if you're not retarded you'll find your way around really fast and realize that the OS is way better. . .
--- End quote ---
OS's primary function is to be intermediary link with an interface between applications and the hardware on which they run. Thus the quantity of the programs capable on running using an OS is directly proportional to the usefulness of an OS. I am sure you are familiar with the fact of how few applications a Mac OS can run in comparison to it's main competitor, so please don't spread blatant lies like that. Maybe your words will hold any truth to them the day when I can run all my games, CAD/CAM and JTAG applications on an Apple made OS.
--- End quote ---
I will admit mac has many "compatibility" issues, and I know that if all those games/programs had enough support for mac the mac would run them even more efficiently than windows. . .
from what I know (and feel free to correct me) the deal with MacOS (based of unix) is the way they manage the RAM memory
Windows fragments it as it goes along, MacOS keeps defragmenting it as it goes along, taking more space than required per program (so you could say it can run less programs if you were to saturate it) but the problem on windows systems is that the excess of fragmentaion in the RAM memory eventually causes that fatal crash, program not responding and ultimately OS freeze. . .which to this day I havent seen MacOS freeze (i've seen programs freeze but not the "I have to hold down the power button to shut it down" freeze
(click to show/hide)
Windows:
open word (requires 1 kb of RAM) (Windows grabs 1 kb of RAM)
open winamp (requires 2 kb of RAM) (windows grabs 2 kb of RAM)
open IE (requires 4 kb of RAM) (windows grabs 4 kb of RAM)
open new word file (requires 2 kb of RAM) *Windows now has fragmented Word RAM into 2 parts*
open new IE tab (requires 2 kb of RAM) *Fragmented IE RAM usage*
so your RAM looks like this:
(NOTICE RAM IS FRAGMENTED INTO 5 PIECES)
WORD 1KB| WINAMP 2KB | IE 4KB | WORD 2KB | IE 2 KB | etc. . .
while doing the same thing on a mac would look like this:
(NOTICE RAM IS FRAGMENTED INTO 3 PIECES)
WORD 3KB used (10 KB available) | WINAMP 2KB USED (10 available) | IE 6KB USED (10 available)
and as those 10 kb are filled, the RAM is defragmented and allows for more memory than its required
thats what I've understood
--- End quote ---
eh? i hardly even notice it happening on my end even though i havent restarted my seedbox(temporary =p) for a month with ram intensive programs using it(2gb ram while 70-80% is being used atm).
though how could fragmentation do any issues at all? even SSDs doesn't die by fragmentation, nor does it slow down.
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