Comcast should be sued...again.

[B-Clark]

The upper tier of Comcast Business Internet has 50 Mb/s down - 10 Mb/s up; 105 Mb/s down - 10 Mb/s up;
and now 105 Mb/s down - 20 Mb/s up.
The problem is that they want over $500/month for that last one.

Wow. I pay ~23EUR/month for a 300/300 connection with no cap. However, as the connection is residential class, the speed fluctuates quite a bit (sometimes it's only 20 or 30mbps). Still, I manage to upload 20-30TB/month. I download less than 1TB/month (upload and download statistics include everything - BitTorrent, Youtube, ACK packets etc).

And supposedly, in Japan they have 100/100 (don't know about a cap) for approx the equivalent of US$35/month (and have had that since the late 1990s).
The USA baby bells were supposed to start installing the same system here back then, but they chose to line their pockets, and those of the stockholders instead.
Now the monopolies can soak us for whatever they can get away with.

Comcast Residential has a use meter, but since Business Class has no cap, there is no meter.
I wish there was, since uTorrent only keeps track of what goes through the torrent software.

I think a lot of Comcast Residential users don't realize that there is a lot of hidden browser data going up and down that counts toward that cap, not just downloads and uploads.
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[Pentium100]

Comcast Residential has a use meter, but since Business Class has no cap, there is no meter.
I wish there was, since uTorrent only keeps track of what goes through the torrent software.

I just use NetWorx to track the usage (since I got a fiber connection (80mbps) in 2010 07 17 I uploaded 385TB). I also use cacti to draw longer term graphs like this one:

[Freedom Kira]

Until you figure the cost of approx 2400GB per month (up + down: uTorrent) PLUS DDLs and browsing overhead, that uTorrent does NOT track.
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Irrelevant, that's still the cheapest overage fee I've seen. Capless connections don't count because there is no overage fee.

[B-Clark]

Until you figure the cost of approx 2400GB per month (up + down: uTorrent) PLUS DDLs and browsing overhead, that uTorrent does NOT track.
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Irrelevant, that's still the cheapest overage fee I've seen. Capless connections don't count because there is no overage fee.

I get brain freeze when I try to figure the cost, if I was to run those figures on a 300GB cap residential connection, with 50GB increments.

Sorry, I'm slowing down with age, and brain damage from a birth defect plus a concussion during Vietnam.
Sometimes it takes me a while to understand things.
It is one reason why I could never get much past approx first semester Japanese, and why (with the aid of a computer) I can read Japanese a lot better then I can understand the spoken language.
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[B-Clark]

Surely your usage will drop when they start snatching pirates July 1st right?

The only way the ISP can see what you are downloading is using deep-packet inspection which kills your bandwidth. The best method for ISP to see what you are downloading is tracking the DNS servers they host. They are going to find people who are using the ISP's DNS servers and those who don't have encrypted connection. Another way to can do it is if you use their router they give you or those modem/router.

To get around all of this is to use a different DNS (I use google's DNS servers 8.8.8.8 / 8.8.4.4). Also use utorrent's encrypted setting. When I didn't use any protection Comcast sent me letters letting me know that I'm downloading copyrighted materials. Switching to Google's DNS and have encrypted settings on uTorrent they stopped.

Worst case if they can get around that (pretty much snatching data from google) You can always use a private VPN over seas with a encrypted tunnel.

To have perfect protection is to use IRC

I've been using uTorrent's encrypted setting on everything for a number of years now, and have never had Qwest/CenturyLink or Comcast say anything about my torrenting.

Comcast Business did tell me that their modem (Comcast Business won't let you buy your own) needs to be power cycled once every day or two, since the address isn't permanent, though for an extra $15/mo, a permanent address can be supplied (money grubbers).
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[Freedom Kira]

I get brain freeze when I try to figure the cost, if I was to run those figures on a 300GB cap residential connection, with 50GB increments.

Sorry, I'm slowing down with age, and brain damage from a birth defect plus a concussion during Vietnam.
Sometimes it takes me a while to understand things.
It is one reason why I could never get much past approx first semester Japanese, and why (with the aid of a computer) I can read Japanese a lot better then I can understand the spoken language.
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No, no, you're still not getting it. I'm saying that it doesn't matter what the final cost is or how much overage you have, because that's not part of my original point, which was that the overage fee's rate is the lowest I've seen.

If you really want to know the final overage cost of using 2400GB on a 300GB cap with $10/50GB, it's $420. The total overage was 2100GB, which is 21 x 100GB. Every 10GB is $20. Therefore, $20 x 21 = $420. But again, it's irrelevant.

Imagine I said that the cheapest gas prices I've ever seen were in place A, where the price is $0.75/L. Saying "but I have to get 1000L of fuel" does not defeat the point. Something like "but place B has gas for $0.73/L" would.

[redlightning]

I get brain freeze when I try to figure the cost, if I was to run those figures on a 300GB cap residential connection, with 50GB increments.

Sorry, I'm slowing down with age, and brain damage from a birth defect plus a concussion during Vietnam.
Sometimes it takes me a while to understand things.
It is one reason why I could never get much past approx first semester Japanese, and why (with the aid of a computer) I can read Japanese a lot better then I can understand the spoken language.
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No, no, you're still not getting it. I'm saying that it doesn't matter what the final cost is or how much overage you have, because that's not part of my original point, which was that the overage fee's rate is the lowest I've seen.

If you really want to know the final overage cost of using 2400GB on a 300GB cap with $10/50GB, it's $420. The total overage was 2100GB, which is 21 x 100GB. Every 10GB is $20. Therefore, $20 x 21 = $420. But again, it's irrelevant.

Imagine I said that the cheapest gas prices I've ever seen were in place A, where the price is $0.75/L. Saying "but I have to get 1000L of fuel" does not defeat the point. Something like "but place B has gas for $0.73/L" would.

well when Comcast finally choose what they what to do 300gbs cap   10$ per 50gb etc   for now enjoy them not enforcing the cap for now....       if I could get away with it   I would get a sledgehammer & smash the modem & the cable box but I'm stuck with Comcast for now....   

[JarieSuicune]

Since you guys have mentioned it a fair bit, what is the most recommended VPN? Or best, or whatever. -_-;


I dunno if anyone cares, but I'll mention it anyway:
http://news.yahoo.com/copyright-cop-anti-piracy-isp-system-delayed-once-011502433.html
It seems the system has been delayed, and should be up by the end of the year, since they want to ensure it is consumer-friendly.