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Comcast should be sued...again.
NaRu:
--- Quote from: tyrionlannister on January 16, 2012, 07:18:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: NaRu on January 16, 2012, 03:25:36 AM ---Comcast should be sued for their monthly bandwidth cap. Currently all resident users has a 250GB cap per month. They been doing this for a long time. Even bore they announced it to the world. Indirectly they are controlling the market because of a law "The fair Use Act." Most of you already knew this. The reason for this law made sense a decade ago. When high bandwidth first came out it was over crowed and speeds dropped below dialup speeds during prime hours. This law gave ISP the right to throttle connection or even charge extra for exceeding "the fair use" of the internet, but today things are different. Everything is done online now. The pipeline is very large and can handle a lot more. Bits are free. Comcast only has to pay for is the gateway between two computers. Example, you go to google from your desktop. Your computer sends out a packet of information through your ISP pipeline that connects to google's pipeline. Comcast only needs to do is maintain the gateway between each system. In the United States we are a third world country when it comes for internet. We spend too much money for slow speeds compared to the rest of the world.
I did some math trying to figure out how much "internet" I can use in 30 days until I hit my 250GB (I had unlimited for the longest time then my contract ended and for me to continue with the same agreement I had to pay $180 a month instead of $80.) My current speeds are 22Mbps down 5Mbps up for $80
250GB = 250,000MB
22Mbps = 2.8MB/s
250,000MB / 2.8MB/s = 89286 seconds
89286 seconds / 60 = 1488 mins
1488 mins / 60 = 25 Hours
So according to Comcast I have to pay them $80 a month for 25 hours of max speed downloading and uploading. If I spend more then 25 hours downloading they will cut me off for a year.
Now I also did the math for someone who has the max speed Comcast offers. 105Mbps down 10Mbps up
250GB = 250,000MB
105Mbps = 13.125MB/s
250,000MB / 13.125Mb/s = 19048 seconds
19048 seconds / 60 = 317 Mins
317 Mins / 60 = 5.3 Hours
So for someone who has the fastest speeds can only download and upload at max speeds is little over 5 hours every month.
Can anyone really hold back that much not to use there connection to prevent the 250GB cap. If there is going to be a cap they need to increase it. Not only it's too low but its way too low if you are paying for a high tier connection. 5 hours a month is something we can do in a single night. With my connection I can do that in a week. I normally don't download much but I do use my connection for netflix and hulu +. I believe comcast only goal with the cap is to scare people on using those services and force them to pay more for business or get there cable TV service instead. This is how they are controlling the market indirectly and it's wrong.
I'm done ranting.
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Why don't you use Comcast's business internet service? http://business.comcast.com/smb/services/Internet/plans
For the same plan as you have now, you'd only pay 20 bucks more a month for unlimited traffic, like it says in their terms here:
http://www.google.com/url?url=http://business.comcast.com/smb/services/Internet/faqs%2307b&rct=j&q=comcast+business+internet+limits&usg=AFQjCNHGjDiXRqSNkYtYhU0yzj2MQs7pvA&sa=X&ei=MIQUT_mJIpiqsgbNnsTdCA&ved=0CC4QygQwAQ&cad=rja
As far as I know, you can use this even if you aren't a business, and you get better support, email, hosting etc.
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I'm highly thinking about getting that. I did called and they are going to come by (it seems they send a seller to my house to make the deal) I just need to know if there is any fees.
kitamesume:
--- Quote from: NaRu on January 16, 2012, 07:39:31 PM --- (click to show/hide)
--- Quote from: tyrionlannister on January 16, 2012, 07:18:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: NaRu on January 16, 2012, 03:25:36 AM ---Comcast should be sued for their monthly bandwidth cap. Currently all resident users has a 250GB cap per month. They been doing this for a long time. Even bore they announced it to the world. Indirectly they are controlling the market because of a law "The fair Use Act." Most of you already knew this. The reason for this law made sense a decade ago. When high bandwidth first came out it was over crowed and speeds dropped below dialup speeds during prime hours. This law gave ISP the right to throttle connection or even charge extra for exceeding "the fair use" of the internet, but today things are different. Everything is done online now. The pipeline is very large and can handle a lot more. Bits are free. Comcast only has to pay for is the gateway between two computers. Example, you go to google from your desktop. Your computer sends out a packet of information through your ISP pipeline that connects to google's pipeline. Comcast only needs to do is maintain the gateway between each system. In the United States we are a third world country when it comes for internet. We spend too much money for slow speeds compared to the rest of the world.
I did some math trying to figure out how much "internet" I can use in 30 days until I hit my 250GB (I had unlimited for the longest time then my contract ended and for me to continue with the same agreement I had to pay $180 a month instead of $80.) My current speeds are 22Mbps down 5Mbps up for $80
250GB = 250,000MB
22Mbps = 2.8MB/s
250,000MB / 2.8MB/s = 89286 seconds
89286 seconds / 60 = 1488 mins
1488 mins / 60 = 25 Hours
So according to Comcast I have to pay them $80 a month for 25 hours of max speed downloading and uploading. If I spend more then 25 hours downloading they will cut me off for a year.
Now I also did the math for someone who has the max speed Comcast offers. 105Mbps down 10Mbps up
250GB = 250,000MB
105Mbps = 13.125MB/s
250,000MB / 13.125Mb/s = 19048 seconds
19048 seconds / 60 = 317 Mins
317 Mins / 60 = 5.3 Hours
So for someone who has the fastest speeds can only download and upload at max speeds is little over 5 hours every month.
Can anyone really hold back that much not to use there connection to prevent the 250GB cap. If there is going to be a cap they need to increase it. Not only it's too low but its way too low if you are paying for a high tier connection. 5 hours a month is something we can do in a single night. With my connection I can do that in a week. I normally don't download much but I do use my connection for netflix and hulu +. I believe comcast only goal with the cap is to scare people on using those services and force them to pay more for business or get there cable TV service instead. This is how they are controlling the market indirectly and it's wrong.
I'm done ranting.
--- End quote ---
Why don't you use Comcast's business internet service? http://business.comcast.com/smb/services/Internet/plans
For the same plan as you have now, you'd only pay 20 bucks more a month for unlimited traffic, like it says in their terms here:
http://www.google.com/url?url=http://business.comcast.com/smb/services/Internet/faqs%2307b&rct=j&q=comcast+business+internet+limits&usg=AFQjCNHGjDiXRqSNkYtYhU0yzj2MQs7pvA&sa=X&ei=MIQUT_mJIpiqsgbNnsTdCA&ved=0CC4QygQwAQ&cad=rja
As far as I know, you can use this even if you aren't a business, and you get better support, email, hosting etc.
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I'm highly thinking about getting that. I did called and they are going to come by (it seems they send a seller to my house to make the deal) I just need to know if there is any fees.
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i'll take the Starter plox, yummy 12mb:5mb @ 60$/month, even if i only get 1MB:512KB its still awesome... waaaay effing better than my crappy 256KB:128KB @ 25$/month(plus the $/GB BS) line.
btw, does comcast track torrents? and and send the S.W.A.T. force to your house with a warrant of arrest? 8) you get the picture right?
nstgc:
I'm sure they track torrents, but until they have reason to bitch at people (and lose customers) they won't. Of course, all of that will change this year.
AnimeJanai:
--- Quote from: NaRu ---Someone needs to be a competitor towards Comcast. Once there is I believe they will stop the bull shit they try to do.
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Easy to say. Hard to do.
Comcast killed Verizon's spread into areas by ultra-aggressively courting the remaining non-comcast internet users regardless of whatever ISP they were using that wasn't comcast. Every address that was not a comcast user got targeted month after month with twice monthly postal mailings of various offers and sometimes with "coupons" to be redeemed for lavish discounts.
By making sure there were almost no prey left in already established residential areas, Verizon limited their FiOS expansions to mostly new residential areas being constructed. It didn't make financial sense to Verizon to expand FiOS at great expense into areas where there would be marginal sales that wouldn't recover the expenses.
TMRNetShark:
--- Quote from: AnimeJanai on January 16, 2012, 09:46:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: NaRu ---Someone needs to be a competitor towards Comcast. Once there is I believe they will stop the bull shit they try to do.
--- End quote ---
Easy to say. Hard to do.
Comcast killed Verizon's spread into areas by ultra-aggressively courting the remaining non-comcast internet users regardless of whatever ISP they were using that wasn't comcast. Every address that was not a comcast user got targeted month after month with twice monthly postal mailings of various offers and sometimes with "coupons" to be redeemed for lavish discounts.
By making sure there were almost no prey left in already established residential areas, Verizon limited their FiOS expansions to mostly new residential areas being constructed. It didn't make financial sense to Verizon to expand FiOS at great expense into areas where there would be marginal sales that wouldn't recover the expenses.
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I live in the suburbs of Philadelphia (Comcast's head quarters is in Philadelphia)... but like I said before, never hit the limit... and I've never had a reason to switch to FiOS. I even have the fiber optics wired right to my house for FiOS but Comcast works for me. So yeah, their campaign to get every resident to use Comcast kinda worked, even if FiOS is "better" with fiber optics (I have yet to see proof of that).
I remember Century Link tried to get me to be a customer... I LOL'ed right in their faces. I remember when I was using COX communications back on the west coast. I remember I had a laughable 5 Mbps down and like 250 Kbps up. Doesn't even compare to Comcast. XD
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