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shikitohno:
--- Quote from: Bob2004 on January 25, 2012, 04:37:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Burkingam on January 25, 2012, 04:25:32 PM ---I don't want to run Ubuntu along side with Windows. I want to have it installed on my computer but I don't want them to run at the same time. That's what I meant by "install Ubuntu on a drive normally"
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That's what the Windows installer does, it installs it normally, it just does it from within Windows. Once it's installed, you get a menu when you boot the computer which allows you to choose whether to run Windows or Ubuntu - exactly the same as if you'd installed it yourself from the cd. The two operating systems don't run at the same time - that's impossible (unless you use virtual machines).
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Not true. Wubi is basically a really slick looking virtual machine program. It may work well, but it is NOT the same as a legitimate install of Ubuntu. If you decide you like Ubuntu best, and wipe your WIndows drive thinking "I'll just use a live disk and install GRUB(2)," you'll be sorely disappointed by the lack of any functional Ubuntu install. Come on, did you even read the Wubi guide? It becomes blatantly obvious in the course of it that you are not running a full-on install of Ubuntu, although you can change over to a complete install if you so desire. Seriously, though, what's the big complaint about having to use a CD or USB drive to install linux with? Every OS uses some form of media for their installs, the only difference is Microsoft and Apple sell you considerably more expensive CDs.
Burkingam:
--- Quote from: shikitohno on January 26, 2012, 03:04:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: Bob2004 on January 25, 2012, 04:37:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Burkingam on January 25, 2012, 04:25:32 PM ---I don't want to run Ubuntu along side with Windows. I want to have it installed on my computer but I don't want them to run at the same time. That's what I meant by "install Ubuntu on a drive normally"
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That's what the Windows installer does, it installs it normally, it just does it from within Windows. Once it's installed, you get a menu when you boot the computer which allows you to choose whether to run Windows or Ubuntu - exactly the same as if you'd installed it yourself from the cd. The two operating systems don't run at the same time - that's impossible (unless you use virtual machines).
--- End quote ---
Not true. Wubi is basically a really slick looking virtual machine program. It may work well, but it is NOT the same as a legitimate install of Ubuntu. If you decide you like Ubuntu best, and wipe your WIndows drive thinking "I'll just use a live disk and install GRUB(2)," you'll be sorely disappointed by the lack of any functional Ubuntu install. Come on, did you even read the Wubi guide? It becomes blatantly obvious in the course of it that you are not running a full-on install of Ubuntu, although you can change over to a complete install if you so desire. Seriously, though, what's the big complaint about having to use a CD or USB drive to install linux with? Every OS uses some form of media for their installs, the only difference is Microsoft and Apple sell you considerably more expensive CDs.
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Because the standard way to install it doesn't seem to work on my comp anymore for some reason. The install wizard always freezes everything I try to do it with the default installer. I have already looked for a fix and although I have found several other users with the same problem(I found other threads with it), there doesn't seem to be a solution.
shikitohno:
Ah, that sort of thing can be a bit of a pain. I had similar issues with Ubuntu, where discs that were known to be good (tried a CD my friend installed off of, a rescue thumbdrive he'd just tested out...) when I first tried linux, which is part of what led me to Fedora. Ubuntu's installer bugged out at my laptop for some reason, but Fedora's went through with no problems. Sometimes things can be quirky like that. My mother's laptop recently would cause the Arch install to freak the hell out, yet is now happily running FreeBSD 9.0 with essentially the same packages installed, aside from some BSD-specific things. Could just be an opportunity to try out a new distro and see if you can find one that works automagically. :D
Kyrdua:
--- Quote from: Burkingam on January 25, 2012, 11:48:24 PM ---Worked wonder! First time on Ubuntu in like 8 months.
Oh! Fancy new design is fancy. :D
Now I just need to find a way to emulate terraria (when I will feel like trying). I'm not sure that wine would work.
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what.
Please tell me that's not your only reason for installing Ubuntu...
Bob2004:
--- Quote from: shikitohno on January 26, 2012, 03:04:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: Bob2004 on January 25, 2012, 04:37:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Burkingam on January 25, 2012, 04:25:32 PM ---I don't want to run Ubuntu along side with Windows. I want to have it installed on my computer but I don't want them to run at the same time. That's what I meant by "install Ubuntu on a drive normally"
--- End quote ---
That's what the Windows installer does, it installs it normally, it just does it from within Windows. Once it's installed, you get a menu when you boot the computer which allows you to choose whether to run Windows or Ubuntu - exactly the same as if you'd installed it yourself from the cd. The two operating systems don't run at the same time - that's impossible (unless you use virtual machines).
--- End quote ---
Not true. Wubi is basically a really slick looking virtual machine program. It may work well, but it is NOT the same as a legitimate install of Ubuntu. If you decide you like Ubuntu best, and wipe your WIndows drive thinking "I'll just use a live disk and install GRUB(2)," you'll be sorely disappointed by the lack of any functional Ubuntu install. Come on, did you even read the Wubi guide? It becomes blatantly obvious in the course of it that you are not running a full-on install of Ubuntu, although you can change over to a complete install if you so desire. Seriously, though, what's the big complaint about having to use a CD or USB drive to install linux with? Every OS uses some form of media for their installs, the only difference is Microsoft and Apple sell you considerably more expensive CDs.
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Ah, you're right. My memory must be failing me, I'd completely forgotten; when I installed Ubuntu with Wubi a couple of years ago, I moved it onto a dedicated partition straight afterwards, which effectively made it work like a normal install of Ubuntu. By default it does install it to a virtual drive on the Windows partition (though it still does not run it in anything like a virtual machine; it just uses a slightly different system for mounting the filesystem since it needs to mount the NTFS volume first).
--- Quote from: Burkingam on January 26, 2012, 03:14:37 AM ---Because the standard way to install it doesn't seem to work on my comp anymore for some reason. The install wizard always freezes everything I try to do it with the default installer. I have already looked for a fix and although I have found several other users with the same problem(I found other threads with it), there doesn't seem to be a solution.
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Have you tried the text-based installer, or whatever it's called? It may be different in the latest versions, but there used to be two installation methods; the graphical, live-cd based installer (which was the default), and an alternative text-based installer. Often, if the graphical one doesn't work, the text-based one will still work fine, and it's generally just as functional, so give that a go if you haven't already.
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