Author Topic: Interesting Google search omission  (Read 807 times)

Offline DriftEJ20

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Interesting Google search omission
« on: January 28, 2012, 12:50:33 AM »
I was bored, so I searched "baka" on Google (there are sometimes funny blogs and such containing the word "baka" in their title. I received a results page with this at the bottom:

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In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org .

Links here -> http://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi%3FsID%3D111981&rct=j&sa=X&ei=_04jT6C_FOSWiALR4rjnBw&ved=0CCcQvxU&q=baka&usg=AFQjCNHkpf2xiX1LUYhNZGqQQT5lzBaSkw

and not surprisingly, the complaint was from FUNimation and was filed against BakaBT for some Chobits OST among other things, and websites like Anime DB etc. for other things. I have never seen something omitted from Google before. I know auto-complete won't guess anything you're typing once it begins to involve torrents, porn, profanity etc., but that's the highest extent I've seen to Google omitting something until now. Just thought it was interesting. Forgive me if this has been around forever or it's been brought up before, it was just new to me and seemed relevant in the recent wake of SOPA and since it relates to BakaBT. The strange thing is that if you search BakaBT, it still comes up with BakaBT and a bunch of pages on this site, same as if you searched for any other torrent site. This is literally the only time I have had something removed from search results no matter what crazy stuff I've searched.


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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 03:16:10 AM »
Hahaha, we have very different behaviorally patterns on the internet then if this is the first time you've run into one of those. Perhaps Chillingeffects has better search engine optimization than bakabt and that's why you stumbled upon it the way that you did. I dunno.  :police:

Offline DriftEJ20

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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2012, 03:56:36 AM »
I guess generally, I've already had the places that I go for anything so it isn't everyday I use Google to search for torrents. But even so, even with searching things that in no way could be copyright legal no matter how you paint it, something like "Transformers Blu-Ray Rip torrent 1080p" and still having never encountered one of these. Maybe I just never noticed them? It was at the bottom I suppose. Still, it's weird that I encountered it with this specific search, and yet searching BakaBT returns thousands of links to separate submissions on this site. We're talking "Baka" being a more restrictive search than "BakaBT". That is just ineffective to me.

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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 04:03:59 AM »
This is the first time I have seen this  :-\

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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2012, 05:22:53 AM »
yeah, I encountered the same thing a few days ago, that and the new privacy policy for google are kinda makin me hate them a bit...anyone know a better search engine?

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Illegally hosted copyrighted dvd cover art or broadcast marketing collateral.
I also found this lol worthy in that DMCA site you linked


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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2012, 12:15:16 PM »
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I guess generally, I've already had the places that I go for anything so it isn't everyday I use Google to search for torrents
Actually the reason why I probably have run into it quite a bit is because I use google's site filtering feature "Site:bakabt.me" for example to search for what I need, and a lot of times I find myself looking for mirrors of a download on a filehost, and everyone knows how much filehosts get DMCA'd.

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.anyone know a better search engine?
You shouldn't knock google points, I doubt it has much control when a DMCA claim is made (Youtube for thousands of examples)

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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 02:14:35 PM »
Yeah it doesn't dirty my image or opinion of Google in any way. It'd be ridiculous to expect them to post hilarious "fuck you" letters on their home page every time someone asked them to take something down like TPB or something. I mean, they do have a legitimate business to run haha. If they didn't comply to requests period it would kind of be like the honor student who gets drunk and tries to fight people for you at the bars  :laugh:

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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 11:32:08 PM »
the omitted search results arent that big a deal, did any of you read through the new privacy policy that is more like a "we're gonna keep track of everything you do policy".  I mean, I get what they're doing, and they may have good intentions behind it, but I have problems with people keeping track of stuff like
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Now even if I wasnt paranoid, shit like that has a negative impact on my browsing performance as well, and dammit my shitty internet is slow enough already.


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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 06:54:13 AM »
omissions on google isn't really a sad news, you could pretty much bypass it by manipulating what you've put into the search bar like adding a few more words on it.

though i tried googling "baka" and that statement wasn't there, i guess they took it out?

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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 07:47:46 AM »
Also if you look close enough on the page you'll see that one of the titles the DMCA was filed for was
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Baka and Test
Making the word "Baka" show up on the page just under 100 times.
Mystery solved  :police:
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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 06:27:33 PM »
the omitted search results arent that big a deal, did any of you read through the new privacy policy that is more like a "we're gonna keep track of everything you do policy".  I mean, I get what they're doing, and they may have good intentions behind it, but I have problems with people keeping track of stuff like
(click to show/hide)
Now even if I wasnt paranoid, shit like that has a negative impact on my browsing performance as well, and dammit my shitty internet is slow enough already.

You're misrepresenting it slightly. In most cases, they don't collect all that information. They store server logs, which, by definition, contain IP address, user agent, and the url of the page you accessed (which would contain search terms), but they've done that for years. Same goes for the phone information, which is obviously only when you ring them. With the "device event information", they can't get most of that stuff through a web browser anyway, so it's obviously only when using an application; in much the same way as, for example, Firefox sends that information to Mozilla in crash reports. And cookies are, of course, normal for most sites.

I don't really like their new privacy policy - they've made it to broad in their attempts to make it easy to understand, I'd prefer completely specific legal language which makes it crystal clear exactly what data they collect, when, and under what circumstances. But it's not particularly bad (and no worse than what they have at the moment).

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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2012, 09:34:45 PM »
omissions on google isn't really a sad news, you could pretty much bypass it by manipulating what you've put into the search bar like adding a few more words on it.

though i tried googling "baka" and that statement wasn't there, i guess they took it out?

On page 9 for me. And I'm not even in the goddamned US of A.

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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2012, 08:16:06 AM »
I'm safe. I own those CDs. ;D
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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2012, 08:56:42 AM »
Try searching for fansubs, the first few pages are alright but after that you get mayby 3 every page

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Re: Interesting Google search omission
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2012, 05:12:53 PM »
*shrugs*

bakaBT shows up on the third page for me, right next to a similarly named anime DDL site. There is no mention of DCMA anywhere.
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