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metro.:
Okay, so on another unrelated torrent site, I was just sent a message being like


--- Quote ---There seems to be a serious problem with members not seeding what they download, This is no good at all, Please can everyone make sure that you seed your downloads and keep them seeded for as long as you can, People not seeding at all and abusing the rules will now begin to receive warnings and if it continues then accounts will also be disabled.

--- End quote ---

They do a thing where certain torrents give you 2x, freeleach, etc.

So my question to you is:

Should overall ratio be important, or should a per torrent basis be enforced to maintain the most torrents? Or perhaps a hybrid of the two?

I have my thoughts, I'm just curious what others think.

Mcgreag:
It's impossible to enforce per torrent ratio. If I where to take a random older and not so popular torrent here on bakabt and downloaded it I might have to seed for weeks just to get 1:1 because there are not enough people downloading it.

Also remember that seeding and downloading is in the end a zero sum game. The total uploaded for everyone can never exceed total downloaded for everyone. This means that for everyone with a better than 1:1 ratio there has to be someone with a worse than 1:1 ratio.

Bakabt has solved this in several ways. First the required overall ratio is less than 1:1, second it's not a real private tracker which means it allows downloading for people outside of the system. This in turrn means that upload credits are inserted faster than download credits are removed. And finally there are the bonus point system to encourage seeding of less popular torrents.

kitamesume:
per torrent ratio is almost impossible to accomplish, one reason is that getting the ratios high would require leechers to download from you, what if that torrent had 100seeders and only 1leecher? you'll have 1:100 chance to accomplish a 1:1 ratio.

well not to steal ideas from others but, ABtorrents has a good idea of time based seeding, i mean they require a certain length of time for you to seed a torrent, not seeding for that length of time will get you flagged as a hit-and-run user, and its per torrent based. though still doesn't fix that bad per torrent ratio, and some users even abuse this by choking their upload to almost null so they wouldn't be wasting upload bandwidth though still accomplishing their target seeding time.

Lupin:
Trackers don't expect you to get 1:1 on each of your torrents. What the expect from you is to try to reach 1:1 on each of them which is easily done by simply keeping the torrent seeding. They won't be looking at individual ratio alone. They are looking at hit and runs which they can determine by looking at torrents you've done downloading, has a low ratio and isn't seeding.

I primarily use 3 trackers (what.cd, hdbits.org, ADC) and none really cares about individual torrent ratio.

kitamesume:
now that i think about it, shouldn't this topic go with torrent/tracker issues? since it concerns about trackers.

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