Final Fantasy X: Remastered

[Havoc10K]

I don't mind Voice acting, but I did forget about FFX-2, loved that game, not story wise since it was purely for fun, but class system. That's enough to make me going.

Which FF games after FF9 and except FFx-2 had class system ? (FFXII Zodiac don't count)
None as far as I'm aware.

I wish it would come back to how it used to be, new people to FF (from FFx onward) won't even like the old game system, because they don't see the beauty of it.

FF9 didn't have a class system either. The point was the characters were developed to fulfill class roles, Thief, Black Mage, White Mage, Summoner, Ninja/Monk, Knight, and Blue Mage. As opposed to Soldier, Samurai, Summoner/White Mage, Black Mage, Thief/Ninja, Blue Mage/Dragoon, and Green Mage/Archer in 10. They just didn't use the signature nostalgic character designs in X.

8 and 7 didn't even really have class-differences, just different limit breaks. Though some characters were stronger in certain elements than others based on their base stats.

X still had every other element of a FF except the world map, which I'm not especially attached to.

You serious ?
Tell me you are trolling, please.

[Nikkoru]

Tou are trolling, please.

[logos]

I don't mind Voice acting, but I did forget about FFX-2, loved that game, not story wise since it was purely for fun, but class system. That's enough to make me going.

Which FF games after FF9 and except FFx-2 had class system ? (FFXII Zodiac don't count)
None as far as I'm aware.

I wish it would come back to how it used to be, new people to FF (from FFx onward) won't even like the old game system, because they don't see the beauty of it.

FF9 didn't have a class system either. The point was the characters were developed to fulfill class roles, Thief, Black Mage, White Mage, Summoner, Ninja/Monk, Knight, and Blue Mage. As opposed to Soldier, Samurai, Summoner/White Mage, Black Mage, Thief/Ninja, Blue Mage/Dragoon, and Green Mage/Archer in 10. They just didn't use the signature nostalgic character designs in X.

8 and 7 didn't even really have class-differences, just different limit breaks. Though some characters were stronger in certain elements than others based on their base stats.

X still had every other element of a FF except the world map, which I'm not especially attached to.

You serious ?
Tell me you are trolling, please.

Final Fantasy 7/8/9/10/12/13 all didn't have a class system, all characters were given their assigned roles and attempting to use them for purposes outside of their assigned role was a handicap.
Now the characters may have had their own class in that the main is always the sword type, the chick is always the mage, there's always a kid/animal that uses some sort of ranged weapon, but you can't call that a class system (imo 13 and X-2 are the only ones to have a real class system, although you're still penalized for using a character outside their main focus).

I don't understand the hate that X+ games get, THEY'RE THE SAME FUCKING THING AS EVERY OTHER FF GAME, 7-13 have all revolved around the same game system, sure some of the games varied slightly in the combat systems, but that's pretty much it.  Every 7+ game has had similar characters, similar plots, similar gameplay, been story driven, had above par visuals and excellent cutscenes

More on topic: Why remaster a game when you could be making a new one? making money is cool and all, but I have zero interest in remastered games.

[SeventyX7]

More on topic: Why remaster a game when you could be making a new one? making money is cool and all, but I have zero interest in remastered games.

You sir, have just won the thread.

[zherok]

Final Fantasy 7/8/9/10/12/13 all didn't have a class system, all characters were given their assigned roles and attempting to use them for purposes outside of their assigned role was a handicap.

I haven't played 13, so I can't comment on it, but 7, 8, and 12 in particular seemed to define characters more by the game system (materia, etc.) than any abilities they gave the characters innately. You could call those differences "a handicap" but it'd be pretty negligible for the most part.

[Nikkoru]

I suppose it's more accurate to say they lacked a "class selection system" but to me that's unnecessary.

4, 9 and 10 were virtually the same in that aspect of game design - with predefined character roles.

8 was roughly the same as 6 though with even less specifications per character.

7 & 13's basic division is between primary-magic and primary-strength characters, with some overlapping.

1,3, 5, and X-2 are the only ones with genuine class systems - in that you can change how the game is played by picking different jobs.

2's system is more like 12, you have room to develop characters in any role - but it becomes necessary to divide the labour unless you want to grind quite a bit to make them all Almighty.

I'm ignoring 11 and all the side products like Tactics and Crystal Chronicles.

[sn4xchan]

You defined that perfectly.

[Havoc10K]

I'm sorry, but 9 did have a class system.

Zidane was a thief
Vivi was a black mage
There was a knight (I forgot his name)
Freya was a dragoon (Lancer)
Garnet/Dagger and Eiko were a summoner/white mage
There was a Blue Mage.

Class system doesn't always mean you can choose between classes. It's not always working like that.
There are classes, which can only do what they have assigned.

FF7 didn't have as much of a class as well in that respect, but in general, following the weapon usage you could see the classes of each character. FF8 was the same thing. In FF6 (3 in US) there is exactly the same class system as in 9.

In FF X-2 you have a nearly complete class system, you can switch the classes even during combat but that's very limited as well (and that's a good thing) but it also made the game so much more fun.

The only way to have a true class system would be to return to FF4/5 or Tactics.

I'd rather see FF Tactics remastered than FFX which is not even remotely old enough to have a remake. But since it's going to be on a small screen of PSP/Vita I don't really give a shit about it.

If FFX lands on PS3, they should very well start making all their games for PC as well, cuz seriously, PC is a lot better platform for games these days, PC rigs give a lot more possibilities, but seeing how they did DS3 and DeusEx HR, I don't really want to see any more games from S-E on PC ever again, I didn't play any of their Lara Croft games yet, but I played the demo and didn't like it as well.

It looks to me that S-E simply wants to drop their franchise games and start new series, if so, why not just say so and start working ?

We won't hate you for that, if you do it right.

[Garret02]

I'd rather see FF Tactics remastered than FFX which is not even remotely old enough to have a remake. But since it's going to be on a small screen of PSP/Vita I don't really give a shit about it.

If FFX lands on PS3, they should very well start making all their games for PC as well, cuz seriously, PC is a lot better platform for games these days, PC rigs give a lot more possibilities, but seeing how they did DS3 and DeusEx HR, I don't really want to see any more games from S-E on PC ever again, I didn't play any of their Lara Croft games yet, but I played the demo and didn't like it as well.

FFT was remastered for PSP and going with it for big consoles would be a mistake. Gameplay where the only place you could move your characters was a battle could pass on PSX but I doubt it would pass on PS3/X360.

Better technology doesn't matter in terms of on what primary system make a game. What matters is where will they make more money. So obviously PS3/X360/Smarkphones then 3DS/PSV and in the last place PC. Also, what is wrong with Deus Ex: HR on PC?

[Havoc10K]

Oh come on!, i'm not talking only about the PC version, did you see the movie sequences ? or 100% accuracy from enemies ? or how weak the character is despite the fact that he is enhanced ?
The Story is ok, but teh way the game was designed is superbly stupid. Movie sequences look like they are from 2001.

Tell me i'm wrong.

FFT remastered ? it's only a port, there was no remastering done actually as far as vidoes show on youtube.


My point is, I loved the old games the company was doing, the new ones are only for the eyes, I know i'm complaining about how bad the games actually are, despite looking good the gameplay is actually crap.

This sells ? nice smelling crap is still crap, why not make a nice smelling delicious cake instead ?

[Garret02]

I dunno, I think it was pretty good overall. And while I don't care much for graphics as long as I can distinguish what is what, I highly doubt movie sequences look like they are from 2001.

Yes, FFT on PSP IS remastered. They changed little details in battle system and also completely changed translation into awesome shakespearean language which changes feel from the game greatly.

Gaming industry is not a charity. They make what sells, that's why studios like Clover Studios are rare and don't last long.

[Havoc10K]

Wish I could play that FFT then, I didn't see much improvement visual wise so it's more of a port to PSP and as usual when things after years get ported, they do tend to change a thing or two.

Haven't bothered but I wonder now if there is a PSP emulator so I could try it out.


I'm not talking about charity but really good products, look at Duke Nukem Forever, it was everything fans expected it to become, a piece of hyped crap.

I really wish Square didn't have Enix with them, cuz that's the rui8ning part. Go back to being Squaresoft, that's when you did the best games.

[Nikkoru]

I bought a PSP, Tactics, FFI, FFII, and FFV for next to nothing in January.

I never played the original Tactics on PSX, but the art style and writing on the PSP version is beautiful - the storybook aesthetic is most gratifying.

I think I'll buy the remastered FFX, I was less enthused about it until I started playing the HD versions of ICO and Shadow of the Colossus. It did improve the already breathe-taking gaming experience. I also haven't played FFX for 6-7 years now.

[Mistgun_Zero]

Well, just the other day I played FF-X again on PS2 at my friends house (mine is with my bro since I have played all the PS2 I wanted). The thought of having a remastered edition sure is pleasing. Complains aside, I would still buy the re-mastered one just for some enhanced graphics.

   And even if it is going to be just a re-master I do think it will make some, if not a huge profit to the company. I am looking forward to it. btw, when is it releasing? >__>

[Havoc10K]

You know S-E.
They announce, and in several years they post an update, after a few more years they announce they will release in next few years

[Mistgun_Zero]

You know S-E.
They announce, and in several years they post an update, after a few more years they announce they will release in next few years

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* Mistgun goes and watches Kara no Kyokai to learn some new killing techniques.