Author Topic: Final Fantasy X: Remastered (Read 6106 times)

AceD · « **Reply #40 on:** February 12, 2012, 10:03:02 AM »

I'd get it, FF10 is awesome...from the main story to all the side quests. I would rather they remastered one of the older three like 7,8 or 9 though since 10 already looks good anyway.

That aside, 7,8,9 and 10 all had a high standard...there has been a decline since.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #41 on:** February 12, 2012, 10:06:15 AM »

Damn dude, that's pretty much the same as I am o_O

Well long story short, we have to wait till BluRays get in the PCs and all other consoles as a standard, maybe then we will get some quality games. For now we just have to live with badly done ports from consoles (in most parts) that are simply done to appeal the visual aspect of games.

Garret02 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 12, 2012, 10:54:39 AM »

Quote from: SeventyX7 on February 12, 2012, 01:09:47 AM

I'm always shocked when people talk about 7 like it's perfect and it's still amazing to play today. I tried to play through it again like 2-3 years ago and I could only get like 5 hours in.

Because for them (and me), it is perfect or close to perfect

Quote from: SeventyX7 on February 12, 2012, 01:09:47 AM

I don't care about graphics in my games, but the way they designed the game has some serious problems. There are massive difficulty spikes seemingly out of nowhere (that one scorpion boss on neibelung mountain was one no-name boss that was one of the hardest fights in the game), who you use didn't matter for story or combat (since materia is what really determines the power of your team), no matter what you do you have pretty much the same party archetype (an attack oriented char, a supportive/magical type char, and a mulligan char), there isn't really anything to the plot beyond "chase Sephiroth" and the reasons for that are pretty ambiguous in the beginning of the game.

I never had ANY difficulty playing FFVII. In fact, until I played FFVI I was sure that FFVII started the easier age in the series, it is that easy (though I have no idea how is FFIX as I'm yet to play it). And there are small differences in dialogs that depends on what party you have. But it's the same for all jRPGs. As for the combat, while there are small differences in what party you have, it's true that mainly it doesn't matter. But that is very good IMO. Why? I can just take my favourite characters and omit the ones I don't like. It's a very good system. As for the story, like it or not, it's the main reason why people love this part. And the reason for chasing Sephiroth is very clear. He is very powerful and set his mind on destroying the world. We (as in the characters) like the world, some of us have a score to settle, so we want to stop him.

Quote from: SeventyX7 on February 12, 2012, 01:09:47 AM

FF7 is the most overhyped game of all time. Not overhyped in terms of how important it was to shaping the genre, because it was a revolution, but overhyped in absolute terms of how good it is. I'm not sure if it's because of nostalgia-fueled fanboyism or for gamer-peen, but when you argue that ff7, in absolute terms is better than ff9 or ff10, games that in my opinion are superior in EVERY way except perhaps in the effects it had on the genre, then I'm afraid I disagree with you, good sir.

GOOD DAY!

You can't call a game overhyped just because you don't like it while others love it. Well, technically you can, but you shouldn't

The funny thing is, if you ask me, FFVII is the LEAST liked FF game. Why? If you'd read comments in various places like youtube or somewhere (yeah, I know, one should never read comments), you'd see that people HATE FFVII. For every 100 comments about FF series, there is like 60 about how FFVII sucks balls and FFVI is the best. 20 about how FFVII sucks balls and FFX is the best. 15 about how FFIV/FFV/FFVIII/FFIX is the best (and those tend to be the most civilized) and 5 about how FFVII is the best (and those are usually more civilized than the ones about FFVI and FFX).

As to why I think FFX is bad (and all the reasons are just my opinion)? Aside from a story which isn't good, except for Lulu (whom I only like because she is hot) there isn't a single likeable character. And Seymour is a friggin' joke.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #43 on:** February 12, 2012, 11:10:54 AM »

Which is why I still don't understand why doing FFX. It's not even that old. If you ask me, I would remaster FFVII/FFVIII.
But I guess FFX would have get it anyways no matter how boring the game actually is.

I liked the general concept of the story, summoners going on a journey to stop SIN. It's not a bad story at all, just the execution is pretty sloppy. I agree that Lulu is sexy, she's also pretty smart. But in overall Rikku was the best character in that game. Combat sucked. And yeah, Seymour made me laugh so hard it's unbearable. Emo-guy who wanted a girl that didn't even like him when she saw what rotten sicko he is.

If Seymour was helping them instead he would have been probably one of the best NPCs in that game. Instead they made him a funny enemy.

The way the combat changing of characters went was pretty damn boring as hell, I mean, you stumble on some enemy that your current party can't handle, you just switch them out and play. Boring. BOOOOORIIIIING!

That is why so many people liked FFX-2 combat system much more.

Hadouken · « **Reply #44 on:** February 12, 2012, 03:36:31 PM »

Quote from: kurandoinu on February 12, 2012, 08:18:44 AM

Well I'll be playing it. FFX is my second favourite after FFVIII.

I can't stand FFVII mainly because of "OMG FF7 is leik teh most awesomest game ever and I leik want 2 have sexes with all the characters becauz they r TEH BEST EVA + al teh other FFs r shit + so r teh ppl who play dem! Remake it, remake it remake it, remake it!" Faggotted fandom and over-milking killed that game for me years ago. =_=

This really.

Nikkoru · « **Reply #45 on:** February 12, 2012, 03:38:28 PM »

I think my categorization of FFX as one of the middle-quality FFs is because I had higher expectations going into an FF which was PS2 quality - and yet other than some obvious graphic updates it was hardly revolutionary as far as FFs or jRPGs in general. Perhaps I had higher hopes than it could deliver - I did truly enjoy X-2 (at least as far as the gameplay is concerned) and XII which were more innovative. Had X used X-2's combat system I would've been squealing with delight, probably.

VII didn't have the best game design nor story of the Final Fantasy universes. However, I would say VII is the one I enjoyed playing the most of all. It's perfectly balanced between difficult and fun, main story and non-linear game play, simplicity and complexity.

SeventyX7 · « **Reply #46 on:** February 12, 2012, 05:50:02 PM »

I hated X-2's combat system. It had the same critical flaw that 8's combat had; you could spam your limitbreak (the super-dress sphere transformation) in every single fight and beat the game easily. Sure, some of the OPTIONAL bosses may have taken a different strategy + a bunch of grinding, but the main quest was easily beatable this way.

Anyways, the reason they're remastering FFX is because the process already exists and makes sense. GoW and the ICO projects have already done this, so SE knows it is possible to merely redo it in higher resolution. Doing this for a PS1 game, however, wouldn't make a lot of sense. It's not going to look any better, the polygons and textures are all too low quality. You can't "remaster" a ps1 game, you'd have to outright remake it to make it look any better.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #47 on:** February 12, 2012, 06:10:48 PM »

Quote from: SeventyX7 on February 12, 2012, 05:50:02 PM

I hated X-2's combat system. It had the same critical flaw that 8's combat had; you could spam your limitbreak (the super-dress sphere transformation) in every single fight and beat the game easily. Sure, some of the OPTIONAL bosses may have taken a different strategy + a bunch of grinding, but the main quest was easily beatable this way.

Anyways, the reason they're remastering FFX is because the process already exists and makes sense. GoW and the ICO projects have already done this, so SE knows it is possible to merely redo it in higher resolution. Doing this for a PS1 game, however, wouldn't make a lot of sense. It's not going to look any better, the polygons and textures are all too low quality. You can't "remaster" a ps1 game, you'd have to outright remake it to make it look any better.

Quote from: SeventyX7 on February 12, 2012, 05:50:02 PM

Doing this for a PS1 game

Quote from: SeventyX7 on February 12, 2012, 05:50:02 PM

PS1 game

You do realize FFVII was on PC as well, right ?

Garret02 · « **Reply #48 on:** February 12, 2012, 07:23:04 PM »

^ You do realize that FFVII (and FFVIII for that matter) was VERY poor conversion from console (and it didn't improve graphics) and it sucked balls so hard that most people won't even admit it exists. Face it, FF series was, is and will be a console series.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #49 on:** February 12, 2012, 07:55:51 PM »

FFVII for PC had improved enemies difficulty mind you. You could play FFVII for PS1 without having even one char defeated, but in PC version, shit happens.

FFVIII looks nice though, for the most part, but the magic system was flawed considerably.

kevin33 · « **Reply #50 on:** February 12, 2012, 09:12:39 PM »

I believe they are remaking X for a simple reason besides easy money. The reason is probably to see if it is even worth it to remake an old game and how much change is needed if they were to remake an older version of a game. For example; vi, how much would it take to remaster the whole game.

Also I noticed alot of people saying they cannot see how X is peoples favorite out of the FF series. Its easy for some who have played old game. One reason is it was revolutionary like how people said vii was. First time dialogue with facial reactions, a complete 3d environment, and pretty good voice acting if I may add. To me personally it is my favorite. For a long time my favorite was VI then IX. I got nothing bad to say about VII it is a very fun game to play to this day for me but I grown to not like it as much as I used to because people praise it so much. You know how many people I talked to praised it and had no idea of anything in the game simple because they never played it or only went with what people said and repeated what they heard. I personally as a fan of VII did not like that when I actually got in a conversation to talk about a game only to find out they did not even play it. Don't get me wrong I like that people are interested in it but sometimes you talk to those who just give you random stuff.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #51 on:** February 12, 2012, 11:16:11 PM »

FFVI is considerably huge even for a SNES game, it's larger and longer than FFVII.
Between 6 and 7 I would rather see BOTH honestly. Both had great stories to tell and it was incredible how many side quests there were.

SeventyX7 · « **Reply #52 on:** February 12, 2012, 11:45:09 PM »

Quote from: Havoc10K on February 12, 2012, 11:16:11 PM

FFVI is considerably huge even for a SNES game, it's larger and longer than FFVII.
Between 6 and 7 I would rather see BOTH honestly. Both had great stories to tell and it was incredible how many side quests there were.

You know what I'd rather see? A new final fantasy game that isn't a part of this cutscene heavy linear trend with poor story that SE has been slipping into the past few years.

That's what SE needs to do. They need to develop NEW good games in the final fantasy franchise, and to stop trying to broaden their audience to people who don't play rpgs. That's how you lose your fans.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #53 on:** February 13, 2012, 08:47:21 AM »

*2012, June 17th*
Breaking News:"Square-Enix breaks up! Square ditches Enix and goes on a rampage doing their old projects from their "Squaresoft" times!"
Squaresoft:"Final Fantasy Tactics 2 and Final Fantasy XV will be a whole new shit gais! prepare to jizz in your pants !
Will be available only for PS3 and PC! Fuck you XboX!"

I would love that.

SilverDash · « **Reply #54 on:** February 13, 2012, 06:49:23 PM »

Quote from: Garret02 on February 12, 2012, 07:23:04 PM

^ You do realize that FFVII (and FFVIII for that matter) was VERY poor conversion from console (and it didn't improve graphics) and it sucked balls so hard that most people won't even admit it exists....

I totally forgot! Good bye life I'll be gone for the next 120 hours

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Havoc10K · « **Reply #55 on:** February 13, 2012, 07:12:19 PM »

120 ?
I know FF7 pretty damn well, i'll time my game time this time.

Mistgun_Zero · « **Reply #56 on:** February 13, 2012, 08:03:48 PM »

Quote from: kevin33 on February 12, 2012, 09:12:39 PM

I believe they are remaking X for a simple reason besides easy money. The reason is probably to see if it is even worth it to remake an old game and how much change is needed if they were to remake an older version of a game. For example; vi, how much would it take to remaster the whole game.

My thoughts exactly. If this remaster does bring enough sale, they might consider remastering the older series, like VII and VI. Like said throughout the thread it's more expensive and thus more risky to remaster the older version.

kevin33 · « **Reply #57 on:** February 15, 2012, 12:09:08 AM »

Quote from: Mistgun_Zero on February 13, 2012, 08:03:48 PM

Quote from: kevin33 on February 12, 2012, 09:12:39 PM
I believe they are remaking X for a simple reason besides easy money. The reason is probably to see if it is even worth it to remake an old game and how much change is needed if they were to remake an older version of a game. For example; vi, how much would it take to remaster the whole game.

My thoughts exactly. If this remaster does bring enough sale, they might consider remastering the older series, like VII and VI. Like said throughout the thread it's more expensive and thus more risky to remaster the older version.

I am glad you agree with me on that. Alot of people do not like to agree with me and come out saying they are just lazy. Which might be true to some extent but we are still in a difficult period economically and they cannot afford or risk it that fast. Probably try to pull in some good revenue and just see how everything turns out if they decide to go that route to remaking older games. Only game I have a hard time I cannot see them remaking is IX which I like but cannot see them remaking. To be honest VII has the best chance after that maybe VI then VIII no other Final Fantasy games I see them remaking after those. So start buying Square-Enix games to fund this. Which I do haha. Only series I never bought was Kingdom Hearts. After that I am sure I bought almost all of Square-Enix games.

SilverDash · « **Reply #58 on:** February 15, 2012, 02:47:35 PM »

I bought 1 to 9 and 11 (yes I skipped 10 because I didn't want to buy the PS2 just for FF10). I think I even bought 1-6 twice because I bought one of those collector editions once. But lately I don't have the money to keep up with both the PC AND consoles

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Mistgun_Zero · « **Reply #59 on:** February 15, 2012, 03:04:11 PM »

IIRC, square-enix released a demo trailer for FF VII on PS3. One of the producer (i don't remember who though) said if they were to ever re-make (or remaster I guess) they would want to do FF VII, but they would require all of their manpower to do that and they were busy enough with FF XIII that they didn't have enough to spare it for FF VII.

Just something that I remembered now that's all. It was around the time PS3 was released and FF XIII was just about to be released (or already was, don't remember).