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Final Fantasy X: Remastered
SeventyX7:
It won't be as good as FF13 in terms of graphics, it's just a remaster (in the same vein as Shadow of the Collossus).
That being said, it's the last "great" Final Fantasy game, imho. The only reason people don't mention it when they're talking about their favorite FF games is because everyone looks back on 6 and 7 with big nostalgia glasses. 7 especially has REALLY dated design.
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: SeventyX7 on February 06, 2012, 04:46:11 PM ---It's odd you'd say that since FFX has my 2nd favorite battle system of all final fantasies. It forces you to use every single person in your party, they all matter. That seems much better than FF7 where only 3 people ever do anything while the others all sit 40 levels lower. Also creates story problems where you wonder why they even get to follow the party.
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SeventyX7 - If you have a dead character in FF7 and was either in your party or sitting, they will get 0 experience until they're revived. If they're not in your party, they'll get a percentage of the total experience of what you earn through-out the whole game. In FF7, you had choices to make which obviously affects the whole party towards you. For a 1996 game, it's pretty fucking amazing.
I will agree on the fact that you couldn't get all your characters that are able to participate in every minor and major events so you can see their thoughts and speeches. I'm a FF7 freak and I did every event with every member. I've done all the Materias, mastered two Enemy Skills Materia (and this is one of the coolest specialty to actually acquire in any game).
Also, about combat. FFX's combat is fucking absolute shit. Boring, uninteresting. Had to sit there and switch party members? Forces me? It's STUPID. Why can't I play the character I want to choose? Square even admitted the mistakes they have done in FFX and how people complained about it. FFVII allows you to choose between the characters you desire the most or want to play. Besides that, Limits Breaks > Overdrives. We all know that.
FFXIII had a minor problems. But it falls under two separate categories. The first one is the unbalanced (and overpowered) characters in specific areas - I find that annoying. I'd rather have the given choice to make it for every character from the start. Then we have the infamous Paradigm Shift (was it called?). I need to sit there, choose one of those Shift options, watch the cut scene and THEN do what I want to do. So, in short, I can't be in combat the whole time? Did they finally fix this shit in FFXIII-2? Also, the rinse and repeat options which you can sit there and spam all day. My 10 year old sister was doing it and she told me it was boring.
--- Quote from: i_am_otep on February 06, 2012, 08:13:45 PM ---I've never played the original, so I'm looking forward to this...
Glad to see others have mixed feelings about it. Meaning, it can't be all that bad..
Hopefully, it'll be as glorious as FFXIII in terms of graphics.
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They're just going to update the graphics. It won't be as good as FFXIII's graphics.
--- Quote from: SeventyX7 on February 06, 2012, 10:32:39 PM ---It won't be as good as FF13 in terms of graphics, it's just a remaster (in the same vein as Shadow of the Collossus).
That being said, it's the last "great" Final Fantasy game, imho. The only reason people don't mention it when they're talking about their favorite FF games is because everyone looks back on 6 and 7 with big nostalgia glasses. 7 especially has REALLY dated design.
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The only reason we don't mention it? Or the MANY reasons we don't mention it? How about the fact that you don't get to visit towns? Or you don't get to visit the outside world? Or the two reasons in their combat system - Paradigm Shift and repetitive actions that get boring over-time? Why do you think FFXIII's scored low? Oh wait, is it a whole new generation of FF and we should suck it up? The over-emotional-crappy scenes? While I'm at it - let's not forget what was the real reason for not putting the Japanese voiced edition on the PS3 edition. FFXIII had good points, but failed to stay true to its FF enthusiasts players.
SeventyX7:
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on February 06, 2012, 10:58:30 PM ---The only reason we don't mention it? Or the MANY reasons we don't mention it? How about the fact that you don't get to visit towns? Or you don't get to visit the outside world? Or the two reasons in their combat system - Paradigm Shift and repetitive actions that get boring over-time? Why do you think FFXIII's scored low? Oh wait, is it a whole new generation of FF and we should suck it up? The over-emotional-crappy scenes? While I'm at it - let's not forget what was the real reason for not putting the Japanese voiced edition on the PS3 edition. FFXIII had good points, but failed to stay true to its FF enthusiasts players.
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I was referring to FFX as the last great FF game. 13 was the worst FF game of all time. You'll have no argument from me on that. I wish I could go back in time and not buy it on day 1, so SE wouldn't see any money from me. I won't buy FF13-2 on principle for that very reason.
I guess I phrased it kind of confusingly. But honestly...how could you think anybody would argue FF13 is a great game? ;)
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: SeventyX7 on February 06, 2012, 11:11:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on February 06, 2012, 10:58:30 PM ---The only reason we don't mention it? Or the MANY reasons we don't mention it? How about the fact that you don't get to visit towns? Or you don't get to visit the outside world? Or the two reasons in their combat system - Paradigm Shift and repetitive actions that get boring over-time? Why do you think FFXIII's scored low? Oh wait, is it a whole new generation of FF and we should suck it up? The over-emotional-crappy scenes? While I'm at it - let's not forget what was the real reason for not putting the Japanese voiced edition on the PS3 edition. FFXIII had good points, but failed to stay true to its FF enthusiasts players.
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I was referring to FFX as the last great FF game. 13 was the worst FF game of all time. You'll have no argument from me on that. I wish I could go back in time and not buy it on day 1, so SE wouldn't see any money from me. I won't buy FF13-2 on principle for that very reason.
I guess I phrased it kind of confusingly. But honestly...how could you think anybody would argue FF13 is a great game? ;)
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FFXIII-2 scored high. I'm still effy about the story. I wonder why would they waste their time on FFXIII-2 when they could have worked on FFXV, or better yet ... get FFXIII Versus out already. It's 2012. WTF are they doing with it?
SeventyX7:
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on February 06, 2012, 11:15:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: SeventyX7 on February 06, 2012, 11:11:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on February 06, 2012, 10:58:30 PM ---The only reason we don't mention it? Or the MANY reasons we don't mention it? How about the fact that you don't get to visit towns? Or you don't get to visit the outside world? Or the two reasons in their combat system - Paradigm Shift and repetitive actions that get boring over-time? Why do you think FFXIII's scored low? Oh wait, is it a whole new generation of FF and we should suck it up? The over-emotional-crappy scenes? While I'm at it - let's not forget what was the real reason for not putting the Japanese voiced edition on the PS3 edition. FFXIII had good points, but failed to stay true to its FF enthusiasts players.
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I was referring to FFX as the last great FF game. 13 was the worst FF game of all time. You'll have no argument from me on that. I wish I could go back in time and not buy it on day 1, so SE wouldn't see any money from me. I won't buy FF13-2 on principle for that very reason.
I guess I phrased it kind of confusingly. But honestly...how could you think anybody would argue FF13 is a great game? ;)
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FFXIII-2 scored high. I'm still effy about the story. I wonder why would they waste their time on FFXIII-2 when they could have worked on FFXV, or better yet ... get FFXIII Versus out already. It's 2012. WTF are they doing with it?
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The story was fucking awful. As were the characters. The only interesting thing about the story was Sazh's subplot...and not only was that totally glossed over, but Sazh was made into a big fucking joke of a character.
When people look back on Final Fantasy games they talk about the PLOT. That is the primary appeal. When the plot is a piece of shit, so is the game. Why they would waste their time making a sequel to the most poorly received FF game is beyond me. I don't want a continuation of a plot I hated. The world doesn't need a Gigli 2 like it doesn't need FF13-2 or apparently now FF13-3.
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