Author Topic: Please explain to me why One Piece is worth picking up cause im interested (Read 2284 times)

lordfrikk · « **Reply #20 on:** February 15, 2012, 02:53:43 PM »

That's a pretty big spoiler livanu! Not cool for those who are watching/plan to watch. Also the reasons why Oda killed him... are definitely not the ones you listed, you totally made them up just now...

newy · « **Reply #21 on:** February 15, 2012, 03:14:27 PM »

If girls want pretty boys, read shoujo, thank you...

Fish13 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 15, 2012, 03:43:29 PM »

I started watching OP and Naruto in 2003 (was 15 and was craving some more shonen after i finished watching DBZ), OP first and when i caught up i started with Naruto, and started Bleach when it started airing...

watched OP till 491 (and i watched the war hoping it would turn out good witch it didn't)

watched Naruto till around 150 when the endless filler started, then stooped and watched 42 episodes of Shippuuden then stopped

watched Bleach till 151

As for the manga, i am only still reading One Piece... read Naruto till 395 and Bleach till 312

so OP is the only shonen to survive 10 years of watching / reading and it will probably survive another 10 if something doesn't go horribly wrong...

does it mean it has the best and is meant for all age groups while the other 2 are meant four younger audiences and / or have declined in quality ? i would like to think so, but i can't be objective

ASecondChance · « **Reply #23 on:** February 16, 2012, 12:25:47 AM »

i stopped watching after 10min into the first episode, i just cant digest how shitty it felt to me

Malakai0 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 16, 2012, 09:01:18 AM »

Naruto did long term story a lot better than bleach, which kicked ass up till end of arrancar/aizen arc but is lagging now. Inoue may not be the most fleshed out char but she plays a vital role in bleach. The new manga arc should be good hopefully.

Naruto has just been great since issue/episode 1 and on (im talking non-filler, everything in the manga). Ive been watching naruto basically every week since like 2001, and reading the manga every week since 06 I think.

And a lot of girls I talk too hate sasuke and love naruto btw. Its like sakura vs hinata for us guys, I love hinata, forget sakura. Only girl (and perhaps person ever?) to ever risk their life protecting him, returning the favor he does for others all the time. Sakura = saved 1000 times, protected naruto = zero.

I will start one piece soon its just sooooo much to catch up on lol. I saw some OP amv's that made it look really epic, and it seems they will actually kill a main char once and awhile too.

Dont forget fairy tail in the shounen mix btw, which I feel in some ways is better than all the others, its definitely the funniest by far. The girls of fairy tail are awesome, not all week and helpless like a bunch of other shounen. <3 wendy, juvia, erza, lucy, lisanna, levy, mira, and VIRGO (time for punishment?)

FT pulls off having a massive cast really well, each one has a unique and memorable personality.

While not as huge of a cast, OP is supposed to do it very well too.

Stsin · « **Reply #25 on:** February 16, 2012, 10:30:57 AM »

I started One Piece long ago while watching Naruto (before the fillers). But soon dropped One Piece (the part before they entered the Grand Line). And continued with Naruto and Bleach. Well, years later after dropping both Naruto and Bleach due to horrible fillers, I picked up Fairy Tail and quite enjoyed it, though it kept reminding me of One Piece. Once I caught up with Fairy Tail, I decided to give OP another try from the beginning (had like 300+ episodes already burned on DVDs). Don't know what happened, but this time around I was really pulled into the story. So much that I didn't care for Fairy Tail as much. Didn't take long for me to get through those 500+ episodes...feeling depressed once I caught up.

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Before I thought it was just okay, now I think it's the best long running series ever. Don't know if I changed, or maybe that it actually has a good story that doesn't feel made up as it goes along. The start is slow, but gets much better. Oda is quite imaginative and a great storyteller.

The series pulls at all my emotions, crying one second and laughing the next. It's humor is just right with me. Doubt this to be considered a spoiler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlfhlMcjwV0 . May be more funny to me because the characters have become close friends/family. As for this type of animation, I've grown quite used to it, that I prefer this old style than the new.

lordfrikk · « **Reply #26 on:** February 16, 2012, 01:15:43 PM »

As I said the beginning is a bit rough due to its age and the style of animation, but it so worth it, and the style changed somewhere about 300 episode and OP's animation quality is probably the most consistent of all the long running series.

Also, One Piece in 6 minutes (obviously MAJOR SPOILERS for the whole series).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vslBlZFpyRA

Hadouken · « **Reply #27 on:** February 16, 2012, 06:59:43 PM »

Bleach's story and pacing is only good up until the SS arc. After that you might as well just watch it for certain fights from the manga you want to see animated. I never really became a fan of Shippuden, but I still catch an episode or two from time to time. One Piece, the first OP song made me not even want to bother with watching the show. But I started to watch it at episode 300 and it's pretty good imo

AnimeJanai · « **Reply #28 on:** February 16, 2012, 07:40:43 PM »

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- I felt like it took them eons to get to the grandline and started feeling like "theyll never reach it why am i watching this?"
- Everytime there was a new villain I occasionally asked myself so this is like a sidetrip and not really relevant to them getting to the grandline?

While the franchise makes a ton of money from selling manga tankoubons, the rate at which the manga develops is driven by the needs of the anime which is in turn driven by the huge profits from merchandising and licensing. That's why anime arcs are made longer in order to help sales of that arc's licensing and merchandise. Because of that, anime episodes are full of filler and waste time (up to 40% in some episodes). For example, the beginning and end sequences are full length; while it's nice to hear a full song, over the course of hundreds of episodes, that is a lot of time used up. That is followed by a time-wasting transition to the one piece treasure recap by the former pirate king. Another small time wasting transition occurs to have luffy talk about going a grand adventure. You have more transitions to the recap of the prior episode, and despite it being so long ago, all too many episodes still mentioned the battle at Marine HQ. Imagine buying 100 DVD/bluray in the video set and throwing away at least 25 of them. Ho, ho.

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abc cuz · « **Reply #29 on:** February 17, 2012, 09:54:02 AM »

I'm also thinking of watching One Piece, but what is it like in relation to Fairy Tail? From the comments they seem very similar, the goofy main character who gets badass when he needs to and all the protect your comrades stuff. I found Fairy Tail good until about the fourth arc (i think?) whereas i could then guess what happened at the end of it halfway through, the whole 'get seriously stuffed up, then through willpower alone get back up and suddenly be on par and beat the same bad guy that just fucked you over an episode ago'. That's what killed it for me so I'm just wondering if One Piece is like this or does it actually get creative, i'm not too optimistic since this is such a recurring thing in anime this long...

newy · « **Reply #30 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:25:57 PM »

FT is nothing compared to OP. OP has more a elaborately fleshed out story atm. FT is just a battle shounen atm. Imo, the red thread is not as omnipresent as in FT where the red is... finding the dragon parents, I think? Actually I don't know exactly what the red thread is.

criver · « **Reply #31 on:** February 17, 2012, 01:33:29 PM »

http://imageshack.us/f/192/onepiecemotivationalpos.jpg/

No seriously - the art is pretty "unique"

. For me the art is too much on the CN side and as I'm not a fan of such style I can't really seem to watch more than 30 episodes as the art in a manga/anime is really important for me - so I'd advise anyone who doesn't "understand" such art not to pick it up (I mean even if Gantz had such art I don't think I'd be reading it - considering that Gantz has a really nice story).

devilzzy · « **Reply #32 on:** February 17, 2012, 03:48:39 PM »

Gotta love how this thread, originally started out on the topic of whether to watch One Piece or not, to the differences between the 'Big 3'.
In relation to that, I personally prefer One Piece over the other 2. Naruto is good, but it's only those few times it has the "omg, that was epic." moments, and has a lot of fillers which really make me feel like dropping the show every time. I have nothing to say about bleach, it's just... No. One Piece, on the other hand, has a really vast .. world. It has real and imaginary aspects to it and you really can't guess what's going to happen next, what type of places they will visit. Their individual arcs all eventually connect up to a bigger picture (not being the pirate king, just some big arcs below that), and there are many times I have gone 'OMG THIS WAS SLIGHTLY SHOWN IN CHAPTER XX' when reading 100s of chapters ahead. Yes, the starting isn't that great. Animation is from the late 90s and the simple dialogue which make it seem like a mere gag manga/anime, really turns people off from watching it. So it's obviously the people who stick around to watch at least up till ep 20~30+ where they start to take an interest in One Piece. However, an arc that could represent not even an inch in the world of One Piece prob starts 80 ep into the series. And that's when most people (or so I have heard) start liking the series for its comedy and action.

None of the characters (main ones) have a useless role like you see in other shounen anime/manga. They might not all have equal amounts of power but they do have (or gain through the growth of their characters) interesting powers which they actually use, and not just stand around holding their weapon. Oh, and they actual go through events or training times where they 'power up' or enhance their skills, unlike other typical shounen mains who gain more strength through willpower.
And what I prob love most about One Piece is just how when you figure one thing out, there comes another 100 questions. The flow between each arc is so smooth that they do not even seem like separate arcs to begin with. Oh, and lastly about how One Piece continues to grow and improve. If you compare the first chapter with the latest chapter, you'd be in awe when you see the difference in art and detail, and the plot. One Piece may start out silly (well that's one of the main elements) but as you continue watching, a lot of elements and details change for the better.

All that said, I'm being biased because I'm a total One Piece fan freak c: If you've already read/watched up to the Skypiea arc and is still not the least bit satisfied or interested, then I suggest dropping it (sadly). The arcs and plot get much much MUCH better after the Skypiea arc, but without any interest after reaching that far, I doubt you'd enjoy it as much as many other fans do.

Last comment, FT is not One Piece. FT is really generic with a few of its own original aspects but its plot nor world are on par with One Piece's.

Meandola · « **Reply #33 on:** February 17, 2012, 08:44:15 PM »

^it became that way because he asked for a comparison between Naruto and OP in the first post.

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Also as a side question for those who have read both One Piece and Naruto manga which did you like more and why please keep it SPOILER FREE. I love the Naruto manga and if I get responses like One Piece is better or on par I just might pick it up.

lordfrikk · « **Reply #34 on:** February 17, 2012, 09:34:44 PM »

Very well said, devilzzy, you summed it up nicely. I admit I dropped One Piece the first time I started watching it (about episode three), but decided to give it another go. I didn't spoil myself with the future episodes, so I didn't know how much of a jump in quality of animation would it be. And I actually talked in a friend from college to watch it, because he was getting annoyed by Bleach lately, too. I guess that's why most people turn to other anime...

Also, I haven't watched FT myself, but I plan to at least check it out to see what's it about. Also some other (minor?) shounen anime like Soul Eater or D.grayman.

abc cuz · « **Reply #35 on:** February 17, 2012, 10:38:14 PM »

is it possible to pick it up from when there grown up?

lordfrikk · « **Reply #36 on:** February 18, 2012, 08:43:34 AM »

I am not sure what you mean by "grown up", since I am pretty sure the whole series take place during mere ~2 years. Maybe you meant timeskip? Well... you can pick it up after the timeskip, but you will not know who is who and who is he allied with, what are the characters' motivations, their past accomplishments or references to things that happened. You will also miss some of the best scenes in the anime, eg. the Whitebeard War, which concludes the first half.

It's like watching only the last episode of a 13 episode long anime. I'd rather not watch it at all. You would also watch only a few episodes until the you catch up and to be honest not much has happened since the time skip, yet.

AnimeJanai · « **Reply #37 on:** February 20, 2012, 12:53:12 AM »

If you have to choose between One Piece and Fairy Tail, you would do much better going with One Piece.

One Piece has a lot more imagination and the writing team is willing to blend both writing chutzpah and fun-style verve into the plot. One Piece also makes better use of both sound effects AND orchestral music to signal or support events. I like Fairy Tails more compact storyline though. One Piece also has more mature writing features such as both visual and plot-based red herrings (similar to Guilty Crown) which are pleasing to those who like to savor such things. Fairy Tail also has a subtle change about 5 manga chapters after the first character popularity contest. Taking the writing/illustration for Lucy prior to the contest as the "normal" baseline, after the contest for a number of chapters, there seemed to be a bigger push on Lucy's sexyness and presence as if the author panicked and overcompensated to try to push his main character back up. But later on, it seems he gave up on that and decided to make the manga based upon a set of main characters which could have separate parallel storylines going at once. One Piece didn't seem to have such changes and kept on a fairly even keel; you could see the art style mature and change book after book though.

The one piece writing team has a great sense of world building. While the attention to detail varies, in many cases, even buildings are treated as significant objects (such that non-essential throwaway details are provided just to be "complete"). Then, all of a sudden, some episodes might lack much detail as if they were saving up their time budget to work on something else.

elvikun · « **Reply #38 on:** February 20, 2012, 05:37:53 AM »

Well, just to throw my 2 cents into the bathtub of positive feelings...

Don't watch it. I can't help it, but it seems to be terrible in so many ways, starting with animation, ending with rather generic, repetitive story, that it's not worth the occasional good gag. People say that there is amazing character development, but, well, again, I can't help it but compare it to a dunkbeetle developing a ball of dunk. It's long and not very interesting to look at... yet it happens and has great ... integrity.

Honestly, I haven't seen all that many episodes, so this might not be very objective, but then again, I'm not much into the "Oh, but it get's really good after you watch the first 50 hours!" type of stuff, which just might be the problem here.

sackii · « **Reply #39 on:** February 21, 2012, 05:11:11 PM »

I've been watching all 3 shows (One Piece, Naruto & Bleach) since the first year or so that they've started. There are many reasons why One Piece is better than Naruto and Bleach. The most striking would be that Luffy is a lot more fun to watch than Naruto and Ichigo.

The latter are simply pussies that try too hard, both those shows are based at how they think they suck the whole time and do some over the top thing once in a while without real story continuity (the only exception would be Naruto killing Pain when they FINALLY started letting other characters saying he's awesome). I mean come on, Ichigo single-handedly deals with every single crisis soul society faces and he's still treated like an outsider that ain't that strong.

Both shows are trying too hard to keep it running, and their filers...are...just ...horrendous.

Luffy's almost never second-guessing himself, the way he acts and reacts to stuff is always a blast and is a much better character to "look up to". We're often reminded why the people he interacts with respect him, his notoriety grows at a believable pace throughout the story and his voice alone should be enough to get you to watch it. The fillers are as dumb/boring as the next thing but at least they happen to the main cast and during the story's continuity.

But most importantly... One Piece still cracks me up sometimes while Naruto and Bleach's humor is still dumb as fuck, use the same gags over and over and simply not funny at all.

Finally...
Naruto = Kakebushin no Jutsu
Bleach = Getsuga Tensho
One Piece = What do you know, he gets new moves sometimes!

Almost every popular anime are worth watching, they don't get popular for no reason... except those fan-service-filled bullshits (which neither of the three are).