Rock Melt

[GoGeTa006]

looks interesting but not enough inovation to make me swich from chrome. . .I'd rather ctrl+tab or just click it. . .Im usually on 4-5 tabs at the most

[xShadow]

What it boils down to is you guys being superduper scared of people finding the face behind your name.

In away, you're right:
No, I don't want to just give away my face to people that I "know" online. I generally only give it to people that I can come to trust and know. The internet is a center of artificial relationships. Would I want to give artificial relationships the same kind of exposure that I do to real life relationships? No. That's only logical. I'm not going to give away my real life identity to people that I can't communicate with offline. It boils down to that. I don't mind giving you maybe just my RL nickname, but I'm not going to give away physical details when I can't talk to you outside of a Facebook page.

To me, Facebook is like a huge social MMORPG where people are foolishly choosing to expose themselves more than usual. Could it be useful for some hookups? Maybe. Do I wanna go through the trouble of sifting through the shit to get to them? No. I refuse to take part in that. If I wanna talk to my friend, I'll call them on the phone. If I wanna make friends, I'll go up to random people in my classes and in real life. I'll come across some chance encounters with strangers that eventually evolve into lasting friendships. I don't wanna have some retarded artificial layer of friendship with some random person online.

Real friendships are made and kept in real life. If you want fake ones, then go ahead and use Fakebook as much as you want.

That's why I got.

And it seems quite condescending about it too. Which is cool I guess.

We probably are condescending because to us (at least to me) you're a bunch of morons.

I hope that clears up any doubts you might have. There's no "seems" here.

[metro.]

Of course, I'm totally retarded. How silly of me to think otherwise. My aspirations to be social are preposterous, and by doing so I'm sacrificing my privacy and making a fool of myself.

I think you're confusing Facebook with some other site, where you add people you don't actually have an contact with. I'm sure that if you desire, or even need, complete and total anonymity, I daresay that you've failed already. Had one the desire, finding you wouldn't be that difficult. It's the world we live in, and if you do not wish to be found, I suggest you limit your digital foot print.

Anonymity is something of a 1/r^2 graph, while you may get so close to absolute zero, where no one knows you, it is impossible. If you want that, and to maintain an online presence, such as torrenting, talking or gaming, then I suggest you come to the realization that you can be found.

I no not disagree with you, online is no substitute for real, live, human interactions. Meeting, or talking to someone, through any digital medium, no matter how close to real it can get, is never the same. There are so many things that make face-to-face contact special.

As a moron, I'm simply saying that getting in touch with people through some ways, and sharing your life with the people you care about, from a great distance, is something that Facebook allows better then many other networking sites. Are people that share what they had for breakfast every morning taking it to far? Quite so, and it's rather annoying, but then again, they tend to be in real life if they have to validate themselves by sharing their every feeling. But networking is such a valuable career tool to pass it up is of questionable judgement.

Judge me, and my alleged fake friendships, all you like. Just know that broad assumptions usually incorrect.

[xShadow]

Of course, I'm totally retarded. How silly of me to think otherwise. My aspirations to be social are preposterous, and by doing so I'm sacrificing my privacy and making a fool of myself.

This has nothing to do with being social or private. I can socialize with random people online just fine. Reread my post.

I think you're confusing Facebook with some other site, where you add people you don't actually have an contact with. I'm sure that if you desire, or even need, complete and total anonymity, I daresay that you've failed already. Had one the desire, finding you wouldn't be that difficult. It's the world we live in, and if you do not wish to be found, I suggest you limit your digital foot print.

I daresay you've failed at saying anything useful. I never said I wanted complete anonymity. Reread the damn post.

Anonymity is something of a 1/r^2 graph, while you may get so close to absolute zero, where no one knows you, it is impossible. If you want that, and to maintain an online presence, such as torrenting, talking or gaming, then I suggest you come to the realization that you can be found.

Goddamn it I never said I wanted complete anonymity.

I no not disagree with you, online is no substitute for real, live, human interactions. Meeting, or talking to someone, through any digital medium, no matter how close to real it can get, is never the same. There are so many things that make face-to-face contact special.

Yes.

As a moron, I'm simply saying that getting in touch with people through some ways, and sharing your life with the people you care about, from a great distance, is something that Facebook allows better then many other networking sites.

If those are relatives you're talking about, I would rather call them. If I wanted to send pictures to them, I would upload them to photobucket and give them a link to my photobucket page. If I wanted to text chat with them, I would use instant messaging. There is no need for Facebook for that.

Are people that share what they had for breakfast every morning taking it to far? Quite so, and it's rather annoying

It's also rather irrelevant as I happen to not care what you think of that.

but then again, they tend to be in real life if they have to validate themselves by sharing their every feeling. But networking is such a valuable career tool to pass it up is of questionable judgement.

There are networking sites. Linkedin for instance. I suppose it has some limited use as a career networking tool, but that's different from the way most use it anyway.

Judge me, and my alleged fake friendships, all you like. Just know that broad assumptions usually incorrect.

Just like your broad assumption that broad assumptions are usually incorrect.



Look, I suppose my original post is a little misleading if you think I wanted total anonymity that much.

This line:
"I'm not going to give away my real life identity to people that I can't communicate with offline."

Replace it with:
"I'm not going to give away my entire real life identity to people that I can't communicate with offline."

All I'm saying is that there is a limit to how much I'm going to expose myself to online communities in general. That doesn't change for Facebook.

[metro.]

I hope this doesn't come across to asshole, but if you only have relatives that you care about at a great distance that is a bit depressing.

Also, you almost proved my point by pointing out you could use all these other sites, or one.
Compiling is a good thing?

"I'm not going to give away my entire real life identity to people that I can't communicate with offline."

It's this part I am struggling with. Do you go around adding random people to your other networking sites? If you do, then I suppose I see your issue.

[Saras]

It's this part I am struggling with. Do you go around adding random people to your other networking sites? If you do, then I suppose I see your issue.

You can't really reject the invite from your boss.

[shikitohno]

Sure you can.  Just tell them you don't think it would be appropriate or professional for you guys to be facebook friends.  If your boss can't understand that, too bad for him. If he retaliates in some form at your job, you've got grounds for a lawsuit.  I work for my bosses, I'm under no obligation to be their friends.  Believe it or not, most bosses can handle and understand that. 

I really only use facebook for the chat.  I just leave finch running, and almost never go on the site.  I haven't updated my facebook profiles in months, at least.  Facebook is known for screwing people over when it comes to privacy, and I'd rather not gamble future careers on their rather spotty reputation for making sure that, say, a photo a friend took when we were out drinking that's meant to be private stays that way and can't be pulled off google by anyone looking for it.  Honestly, I'm considering just shutting down my account, anyway.  By and large, facebook is a fairly useless site for extroverts to spout their verbal diarrhea across the internet in the hopes that I'll give them some attention.  If I really want to talk with someone, I'll get their phone number.  If they're somewhere that it would be inconvenient to call them (say a friend studying abroad on the far side of the planet), I'll get their email.  I fail to see how facebook facilitates communicating with distant relatives and friends any better than giving them a phone call, or shooting them a text or an email.  People managed to stay in touch just fine for decades before facebook came around, and they'll continue to do so long after facebook is gone.

If there's something about facebook that appeals to you, good for you.  Those of us who have our qualms with the website or fail to see the attraction are not all paranoid, condescending misanthropes, though.  xShadow's post probably could have been better phrased, but there are plenty of perfectly valid reasons to mistrust facebook or not use it at all.  Exhibit A right here, and plenty more dodgy practices where that comes from, to start.

[xShadow]

I hope this doesn't come across to asshole, but if you only have relatives that you care about at a great distance that is a bit depressing.

My relatives are in Russia. Give me a grand or two for the plane tickets, and I'll go and meet them face to face.
Asshole.

Also, unrelated.

Also, you almost proved my point by pointing out you could use all these other sites, or one.
Compiling is a good thing?

There's a difference between being broadcasted and using things for a purpose. A huge difference of intents. To Photobucket, IM clients, etc. you only hand off as much private data as you want. To use Facebook is an entirely different matter.

Yes, you can maybe use it as a simple compilation of those services (or rather, maybe you can't; it depends on how safe they keep your data internally), but I'm quite willing to wager that it's generally used as something besides that by a large majority (and that's what they encourage you to do, so that's hardly surprising), not to mention that I don't know what its privacy handling entails.

It's this part I am struggling with. Do you go around adding random people to your other networking sites? If you do, then I suppose I see your issue.

...? If you're calling Facebook a mere "networking" site, then you might as well be reaffirming what I'm saying. Networking is simply selling yourself (for which there are networking sites anyway) to companies. Nothing could be a more artificial "friendship".

You're trying to hop around the point. My point is that (though I suppose it's had to be evolved to this point), if you're using Facebook for anything besides either networking or communicating with family and pre-established friends, you're giving out a stupid amount of real life data to strangers over the internet. Yes, I think you're stupid for doing that, if you do. I'm not even that paranoid, either. If something like that does happen, I'll be like "oh well"... but if I can prevent it from happening in the first place, why wouldn't I?

I also agree fully with shiki says, and he probably stated it better than me, since I tend to have trouble communicating my true meaning.

I'm not gonna waste a lot of time on this, but I also think that Facebook is a pestilence to society in general. In my opinion, it's just bringing us one step closer to total media manipulation.

[GoGeTa006]

Tried it yesterday:

[AceHigh]

You know, if people want to use FB and give hilarious drama for the whole world to see, I say let them, it's really entertaining.

Here is an awesome example:

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[Freedom Kira]

Heh, looks like you fell victim to the very well-done Facebook prank. I thought it was real at first, too.

[AceHigh]

I find so many of those on a daily basis, that I honestly don't care any more. What is more scary is this kind of stupidity seen among locals around my town.

[Freedom Kira]

I rarely see one done so intricately and well. Got an example of another one? Hope that's not too off-topic. The browser deals with Facebook and such, so we're one "degree" off-topic, I suppose.

I didn't really care much about it being fake, either. I liked the message it was putting out, regardless of its legitimacy. Funny that the message was entirely unintentional, though.

v Not bad, heh. I still have yet to see one that's as good as the tattoo one though.

[AceHigh]

There are a bunch of those out there on the internet.

[kitamesume]

i lol'ed at the pink part.