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« Reply #240 on: March 16, 2012, 01:05:30 PM »
After reading the last page, I'm vaguely depressed.

Come to think of it, I have no idea how I've made any friends. It's not like I've been going over the world map to towns & dungeons looking for courageous comrades to fight the demon king or anything. Yet they seem to appear as though scripted.
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« Reply #241 on: March 16, 2012, 03:29:38 PM »
Uh. Try Discrete Mathematics, because set theory and the division algorithm are oh so compelling.

Lol oh that's a great class actually. Hard as hell but totally interesting.

I'm a nerd. I decided to take 221 even when I'm not in second year yet...
Maybe explains why I'm alone?

Oh yeah, and double posting is a HUGE sin.

After reading the last page, I'm vaguely depressed.

Come to think of it, I have no idea how I've made any friends. It's not like I've been going over the world map to towns & dungeons looking for courageous comrades to fight the demon king or anything. Yet they seem to appear as though scripted.

You're probably just a decent human being.

And why are you depressed after the last page?

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« Reply #242 on: March 16, 2012, 04:57:06 PM »
Uh. Try Discrete Mathematics, because set theory and the division algorithm are oh so compelling.

Lol oh that's a great class actually. Hard as hell but totally interesting.

I'm a nerd. I decided to take 221 even when I'm not in second year yet...
Maybe explains why I'm alone?

The marks I'm getting back sadden me to the point where it has transformed all of my interest in the subject to burden. qq
Because today's midterm went OH SO WELL. FUCK.

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Re: Are You Alone?
« Reply #243 on: March 16, 2012, 05:59:58 PM »
I had the issue of going into the class with zero knowledge of proofs.

If you take...oh whatever the mathematical proofs course is at your school, it'll make discrete math a million times easier.

I ended up doing a bunch of proofs over spring break so that discrete structures was a lot easier.

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« Reply #244 on: March 16, 2012, 06:06:03 PM »
In the end, it's my fault for not practicing enough.


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« Reply #245 on: March 16, 2012, 09:50:06 PM »
I think this goes here...kind of...

Well I have been trying to connect to these two teens I am here with (they have shit for brain) and I decided to try listening to music I used to love when I was their age to get in all the shirt for brain mood.
I have come to a conclusion (one beside the fact that I used to listen to loads of crap) that I have no actual right to talk about relationships. Well I did fall in love once or twice (I think, not quite sure about it now, I might just had fun) but it never actually hurt me when the relationships ended (well I just got into another one right away and did not spent to much time thinking about it) and I mostly saw relationships as a way to have fun and get stuff for free... well I tend to see them the same way right now as well  ;D

I wonder - what do you people think - what relationships should be about? (beside fun ad free stuff if you are a female)

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« Reply #246 on: March 17, 2012, 04:46:00 AM »
I think this goes here...kind of...

Well I have been trying to connect to these two teens I am here with (they have shit for brain) and I decided to try listening to music I used to love when I was their age to get in all the shirt for brain mood.
I have come to a conclusion (one beside the fact that I used to listen to loads of crap) that I have no actual right to talk about relationships. Well I did fall in love once or twice (I think, not quite sure about it now, I might just had fun) but it never actually hurt me when the relationships ended (well I just got into another one right away and did not spent to much time thinking about it) and I mostly saw relationships as a way to have fun and get stuff for free... well I tend to see them the same way right now as well  ;D

I wonder - what do you people think - what relationships should be about? (beside fun ad free stuff if you are a female)

Whoa, harpy is a girl?
Or did I just read that wrong.

But yeah, relationships are about uh...sex and comfort. And if you're a girl getting free stuff, otherwise giving away free stuff.

I've never been in love, even though I've faked it several times because it seemed like the right thing to do. I think they're supposed to be about love though. So I've been told by my friends in relationships. They're about sex and love. And I really don't see that second part coming through for me.

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« Reply #247 on: March 17, 2012, 09:52:48 AM »
I wonder - what do you people think - what relationships should be about? (beside fun ad free stuff if you are a female)

There's no single, absolute answer to this.  Different people want different things, and that's entirely okay.  Some people want love & companionship; others just want sex and to have a good time; still more might be looking for someone to take care of them, or for someone they can control.  The important part is honesty & communication.  Establish expectations early, make sure the other person understands your feelings and is on board, but be ready to change your mind and react to the situation as it develops.  It's fine to be indecisive as long as you don't lead the other person on or otherwise deceive them.  It kills me how many times I see drama unfold simply because someone in a relationship is unwilling to or is incapable of expressing their feelings.
 
Me personally, my passions don't stir easily but they run deep.  I don't fall in love often but when I do, I'm usually pretty well fixated on that other girl.  But I'm also very introspective, very independent, full of a lot of self-doubt, and I need a lot of space and time to myself, so I can't be with someone who is too needy or too dependent.  I'm not the kind of person who smothers my significant other, and I can't handle anyone who would smother me, try to 'change' me, or who would try to control me.  I doubt I'll ever be in another serious long-term relationship again, but should that unfold, I would really need to be with someone who is a foremost an equal, a friend & a partner.  I'm likely to eventually lose interest in a casual relationship with someone who I can't really connect with on any deeper level.  Doesn't mean I'm adverse to having a casual relationship that's just about having fun and/or sex, it's just that something like that wouldn't last for very long for me.  In certain ways I'm usually very guarded emotionally, and it takes a while for me to connect with new people.
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Re: Are You Alone?
« Reply #248 on: March 17, 2012, 11:00:54 AM »
Whoa, harpy is a girl?
Or did I just read that wrong.

She would answer tha question with "Harpy is not a girl, harpy is a harpy"

However some of us know that she is that Lithuanian brunette who tends to hide her face behind a beer mug when posting her pic on bakabt boxtorrents (it was that long ago).
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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« Reply #249 on: March 17, 2012, 05:17:50 PM »
that I have no actual right to talk about relationships.

Sure you do. Everyone does. Because it's personal for everyone. Even if you never had one you still have that right because you might still be looking for a relationship for x reasons. Those x reasons give you the right to talk about it imo.

I wonder - what do you people think - what relationships should be about? (beside fun ad free stuff if you are a female)
Same thing, there is no "should" imo. Relationships have a million different reasons or so. jealousy, sex, domination, unwanted child, power, (other) political reasons, arranged marriages, protection, adventure/danger, making your parents mad, etc, etc,etc,etc.


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« Reply #250 on: March 17, 2012, 05:23:18 PM »
I wonder - what do you people think - what relationships should be about? (beside fun ad free stuff if you are a female)

There's no single, absolute answer to this.  Different people want different things, and that's entirely okay.  Some people want love & companionship; others just want sex and to have a good time; still more might be looking for someone to take care of them, or for someone they can control.  The important part is honesty & communication.  Establish expectations early, make sure the other person understands your feelings and is on board, but be ready to change your mind and react to the situation as it develops.  It's fine to be indecisive as long as you don't lead the other person on or otherwise deceive them.  It kills me how many times I see drama unfold simply because someone in a relationship is unwilling to or is incapable of expressing their feelings.
 
Me personally, my passions don't stir easily but they run deep.  I don't fall in love often but when I do, I'm usually pretty well fixated on that other girl.  But I'm also very introspective, very independent, full of a lot of self-doubt, and I need a lot of space and time to myself, so I can't be with someone who is too needy or too dependent.  I'm not the kind of person who smothers my significant other, and I can't handle anyone who would smother me, try to 'change' me, or who would try to control me.  I doubt I'll ever be in another serious long-term relationship again, but should that unfold, I would really need to be with someone who is a foremost an equal, a friend & a partner.  I'm likely to eventually lose interest in a casual relationship with someone who I can't really connect with on any deeper level.  Doesn't mean I'm adverse to having a casual relationship that's just about having fun and/or sex, it's just that something like that wouldn't last for very long for me.  In certain ways I'm usually very guarded emotionally, and it takes a while for me to connect with new people.

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Re: Are You Alone?
« Reply #251 on: March 17, 2012, 05:26:31 PM »
Whoa, harpy is a girl?
Or did I just read that wrong.

She would answer tha question with "Harpy is not a girl, harpy is a harpy"

However some of us know that she is that Lithuanian brunette who tends to hide her face behind a beer mug when posting her pic on bakabt boxtorrents (it was that long ago).

Learn something new everyday.

Regardless, this is interesting to see what people think of relationships. And how they tend to differ from each other, which I guess makes sense considering that people typically have a hard time finding someone.

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« Reply #252 on: March 17, 2012, 09:10:07 PM »
Whoa, harpy is a girl?
Or did I just read that wrong.

She would answer tha question with "Harpy is not a girl, harpy is a harpy"

However some of us know that she is that Lithuanian brunette who tends to hide her face behind a beer mug when posting her pic on bakabt boxtorrents (it was that long ago).

Learn something new everyday.


Ace is right about Harpy being a harpy it just happens to be so that harpys do not come in any other gender then female :)

But some other seem to be sure that this harpy comes from Latvia and not Lithuania...includi ng her parents who claim to have given birth to her...


I wonder - what do you people think - what relationships should be about? (beside fun ad free stuff if you are a female)

There's no single, absolute answer to this.  Different people want different things, and that's entirely okay.  Some people want love & companionship; others just want sex and to have a good time; still more might be looking for someone to take care of them, or for someone they can control.  The important part is honesty & communication.  Establish expectations early, make sure the other person understands your feelings and is on board, but be ready to change your mind and react to the situation as it develops.  It's fine to be indecisive as long as you don't lead the other person on or otherwise deceive them.  It kills me how many times I see drama unfold simply because someone in a relationship is unwilling to or is incapable of expressing their feelings.

I have never really understood all this being true to emotions stuff, because most of the time it gets relationships ruined. Yeah, these mostly are relationships in the beginning stage of them, but these relationships quite often show quite a promising future, but one or another said something too serious or not too serious and people who loved each other just split up.
I do agree that one should speak up about problems and give some hints about what are their intentions, but not actually say them out loud. And I do agree that if one is asked one should be true or at least not lie.

Well to be completely honest I never really understood all that talking about the relationships unless there was a problem. I always run away when someone tries to talk to me about relationships I am in....


Me personally, my passions don't stir easily but they run deep.  I don't fall in love often but when I do, I'm usually pretty well fixated on that other girl.  But I'm also very introspective, very independent, full of a lot of self-doubt, and I need a lot of space and time to myself, so I can't be with someone who is too needy or too dependent.  I'm not the kind of person who smothers my significant other, and I can't handle anyone who would smother me, try to 'change' me, or who would try to control me.  I doubt I'll ever be in another serious long-term relationship again, but should that unfold, I would really need to be with someone who is a foremost an equal, a friend & a partner.  I'm likely to eventually lose interest in a casual relationship with someone who I can't really connect with on any deeper level.  Doesn't mean I'm adverse to having a casual relationship that's just about having fun and/or sex, it's just that something like that wouldn't last for very long for me.  In certain ways I'm usually very guarded emotionally, and it takes a while for me to connect with new people.

You sound similar to me :)
I have (also?) given up on actually forming a relationships because I do respect myself to much to compromise myself and my well being with someone else...well yeah I am to egoistic to bother thinking about someones well being over mine.
Even I know that good relationships are all about compromise and changing your own way of living and being and even thinking. Even if you meet an equal you have to sacrifice some part of what you are to other person just to be able to be together and have a relationship. Yes, one should not go inside relationships thinking - ok I can change that and that in other person, but usually that's how it turns out in the long run or relationships fail.
 

And also ignorance is great in relationships. Especially if the relationship is going well. Know a bunch of stuff about some really happy relationships that would ruin them. Like cheating and loving others for a second and doubts and so on crap people in long term relationships go trough. One should not know all about the other person and they sure as hell should not know about the little messes other might commit if it is a one time thing.


that I have no actual right to talk about relationships.

Sure you do. Everyone does. Because it's personal for everyone. Even if you never had one you still have that right because you might still be looking for a relationship for x reasons. Those x reasons give you the right to talk about it imo.

I wonder - what do you people think - what relationships should be about? (beside fun ad free stuff if you are a female)
Same thing, there is no "should" imo. Relationships have a million different reasons or so. jealousy, sex, domination, unwanted child, power, (other) political reasons, arranged marriages, protection, adventure/danger, making your parents mad, etc, etc,etc,etc.

well I did ask - what you think what it should be about :)

For me it was all about having fun and getting free stuff, now I find that even that is to bothersome, because I have to talk and be nice to people to accomplish that. I am not in the mood to do that. And I sure as hell am not ready to agree with some stupid opinions most people put out there >_>
Where are all the nice misanthropic people gone?  :'(

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Re: Are You Alone?
« Reply #253 on: March 17, 2012, 10:29:44 PM »
Well in that case, just fun & sex I guess. Yeah definitely lots of sex. I'm not really sure but I think that should cover about 90% of it for me ;D. Satan is so gonna punish me after I die :P. Maybe I should apply to the Modern Church of Satan. I wonder what Satan's favorite fetish is. Whipping and hot wax probably.

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« Reply #254 on: March 17, 2012, 11:44:30 PM »
But some other seem to be sure that this harpy comes from Latvia and not Lithuania...includi ng her parents who claim to have given birth to her...

Bah. I always mix up those two countries for some reason.
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« Reply #255 on: March 18, 2012, 01:12:53 AM »
I wonder - what do you people think - what relationships should be about? (beside fun ad free stuff if you are a female)

For me, relationships are just strong friendships. Because I define them this way, I'm only willing to commit to one if it came to being in the same way you would think a strong friendship would.
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I know that this way of thinking puts me in the risk of "being in the friend-zone," but I think I'm okay with that. I mean if I have a strong friendship with a friend, and I want to transform that friendship into a relationship, then I'll only really be satisfied with that relationship if it's something she wants as well. For her to say, "I value our friendship too much," means to me that her lack of will to take it further probably has to do with her lack of interest in me in that way. And if she's not interested in me in that way, then it only makes sense for us to stay friends in the first place.

I'd rather find out that the relationship wouldn't work out in this way, then it would if I had just met her, asked her out before really getting to know her, and finding out in the middle of the relationship.


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« Reply #256 on: March 18, 2012, 01:21:15 AM »
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Rofl, hell yeah, lone wolf baby, that's me!  (Except, I will never fucking ever get on a motorcycle again.  My uncle put me on his bike when I was around 4 years old.  I touched the exhaust pipe with my leg and burned myself, haven't been on a bike since.  Of course, at my age I now intellectually understand how dangerous riding a motorcycle can be, so I have even less reason to ride one now.)
 
 
Yah, Harpy, it sounds like we have some similar opinions.  I'm pretty egocentric but full of self-doubt at the same time.  I do think it's wrong for people to get into relationships expecting to change the other person.  If one can't adapt to another person's foibles / personality, then why in the hell date them in the first place??  But adapting to another person doesn't mean that you should change who you are at a fundamental level, either.
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« Reply #257 on: March 18, 2012, 01:41:27 AM »
But adapting to another person doesn't mean that you should change who you are at a fundamental level, either.

I think it's less about "should I have to" and more about "what am I comfortable with." I mean, obviously, if you're comfortable with changing your entire personality for said person, then they're something wrong with you, but I think we can define that as a different problem entirely.


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« Reply #258 on: March 18, 2012, 03:48:47 AM »
Lol whomever mentioned the Friend Zone that used to happen to me all time when I was being an emotional child. They say nice guys don't get laid or something right? So I suppressed the desire to care about anything other then furthering myself and now...well friends are supposed to offer comfort in whatever way they can right?

Really though, I think it was more of me giving up on actually trying to find a relationship or whatever. People suck, and until they stop doing that, or start doing it really well there isn't there for me. I don't trust other people and myself even less.

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« Reply #259 on: March 18, 2012, 11:55:45 AM »
But adapting to another person doesn't mean that you should change who you are at a fundamental level, either.

I think it's less about "should I have to" and more about "what am I comfortable with." I mean, obviously, if you're comfortable with changing your entire personality for said person, then they're something wrong with you, but I think we can define that as a different problem entirely.

It's probably as much a matter of the amount of & nature of any change as it is what you're comfortable doing.  Changing religions to adapt to your partner's beliefs could be a huge deal for some people but not for others.  A person who's fairly independent is probably not going to give up their independence just to satisfy some control freak's needs.  But someone who's too dependent on other people could learn a measure of self-determination from their partner and would probably benefit from it.  A hot-tempered person might clash too much with their significant other, and most likely should learn some self-control, but may or may not be capable of that kind of change.
 
In a relationship, it boils down to finding someone who's personality meshes well with your own in a positive way.  The ideal situation is to learn from each other and adopt any traits or habits that make each of you a better person.  The degree to which this can or should happen is, of course, highly variable from couple to couple.
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