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Re: Are You Alone?
« Reply #280 on: March 19, 2012, 10:45:53 PM »
Darn my manly brother even wears pink shirts

Not long ago wearing pink and flamboyant clothes was the sign of manliness, since you had the balls to do it.

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« Reply #281 on: March 19, 2012, 10:54:11 PM »
Hm, even I know love do exist. It might not be all that romance and all that stuff, but still it's there.

I just do not see what love have to do with marriage, well beside ruining the love.

I understand back in time when people had their imaginary friends in form of God/Gods they had to do stuff like marriage, but now its just kind of stupid.
I do understand that back then they was afraid to be left alone with the kid and so on. But now one can get a peace of paper saying - "yeah, this is your baby - pay up",no need for another paper saying - "you belong to me and only me". As if that means anything.

I get it if one wants to change surname, that is if the one person have is horrible beyond comprehensions, but even then there is simpler solution.

And what idiot gets so desperate at age of 25 when life just begins, well beside ones with imaginary friends, can not hold these responsible need to blame their upbringing or idiocy to believe that believing in god should be regulated by some kind of old fashioned code of morality.

For most, marriage is an expression of a commitment between two people, nevermind how often people set that commitment aside later for one reason or another.  It's generally quite a bit harder for two people to split up if they are married than if they aren't (local laws may vary, of course).  Marriage obviously isn't a requirement to have a good or successful relationship, but for a lot of people the symbolism of having that kind of mutually agreed upon commitment can be a strong reinforcement for their relationship.  Just as obvious, though, is that each person's culture is going to play a huge factor in whether a marriage is successful or not, or whether it's even socially or morally worthwhile to go through with it.  For example, with America's self-centered "me first, my happiness is all that matters", it's really no surprise that we have such a high rate of divorce.
 
So, in the modern age, while marriage may not be a necessity anymore, I don't see anything wrong with the institution itself; it doesn't hurt anything.  At least in the U.S., I'm more concerned at how selfish people seem to be getting, how unwilling people are to make sacrifices for each other, especially in relationships.
 
There are a variety of reasons to get married; love doesn't necessarily have to enter the picture, it's just a common reason to do so, in part because of the frequent association between getting married & starting a family.
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« Reply #282 on: March 19, 2012, 11:03:42 PM »
Lol whomever mentioned the Friend Zone that used to happen to me all time when I was being an emotional child. They say nice guys don't get laid or something right? So I suppressed the desire to care about anything other then furthering myself and now...well friends are supposed to offer comfort in whatever way they can right?

Really though, I think it was more of me giving up on actually trying to find a relationship or whatever. People suck, and until they stop doing that, or start doing it really well there isn't there for me. I don't trust other people and myself even less.

Hm. Well, I mean, I've already had my say about what I think about the friend-zone, but I think at the end of the day, if it's about someone I really care about, I'd rather be temporarily disappointed and stay friends, than to not be friends at all.

It's hard to be a friend if your only concern is furthering yourself.

I've never really been one to go out and find a relationship. I just go about life, and if a relationship opportunity comes my way, so be it. Even though I still find the idea of having a girlfriend to be nice, I'm okay with being on my own until the right opportunity comes; I'm not going to force it.


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Re: Are You Alone?
« Reply #283 on: March 19, 2012, 11:07:46 PM »
I've never really been one to go out and find a relationship. I just go about life, and if a relationship opportunity comes my way, so be it. Even though I still find the idea of having a girlfriend to be nice, I'm okay with being on my own until the right opportunity comes; I'm not going to force it.

That's pretty much my attitude, too.  I enjoy being alone but I'm not adverse to a relationship if one happens to unfold.  I can't bring myself to go & actively hunt for a relationship; the thought feels way too contrived and just doesn't seem right to me.
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« Reply #284 on: March 19, 2012, 11:33:23 PM »
It's hard to be a friend if your only concern is furthering yourself.

I've never really been one to go out and find a relationship. I just go about life, and if a relationship opportunity comes my way, so be it. Even though I still find the idea of having a girlfriend to be nice, I'm okay with being on my own until the right opportunity comes; I'm not going to force it.

It's easy to make friends, you just be what that person wants out of a friend, it's really not that hard.
Oh, my only concern is furthering myself when it comes to the vast majority of my life. Parts of it I care about people, but those are very few and far between.

How many girlfriends have you had? Because you get to a point where it's just not worth it any more, and "waiting" I suppose is the only option. I have learnt though, don't date people within your faculty/group of friends. Or workplace.

It just gets awkward.

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« Reply #285 on: March 19, 2012, 11:53:11 PM »
I have learnt though, don't date people within your faculty/group of friends. Or workplace.

It just gets awkward.

Hmm, that's definitely worth noting. I don't know how else I'd go about stumbling into girlfriend material if it weren't for those channels though.


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« Reply #286 on: March 20, 2012, 02:10:02 AM »
I have learnt though, don't date people within your faculty/group of friends. Or workplace.

It just gets awkward.

Hmm, that's definitely worth noting. I don't know how else I'd go about stumbling into girlfriend material if it weren't for those channels though.

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« Reply #287 on: March 20, 2012, 04:14:36 AM »
im just going to say this once here, to each there own and everybodies different if you do things through "local channels" so to speak, i find that it works fine, but some people work off " rippers" lol i know a few but friends in general and/or people they know are usually better. It all depends on the person, if someone is alone they might get lonely, if they're with someone, they might cry freedom, i've been in both so hopefully someone can understand where im comming from, if not... like i said to each they're own and the best advice i can give is dont think about it, the more you do the more you find yourself constricted or lonely. Just live life and do what you want, theres billions of people on this earth and theres bound to be one for each of us. Just live, if some lady or male is cruel to you dont sigh, you say.. and i quote "WHO DO YOU THINK I AM" and thats all that should be said anything after is just life and shoupd be awesome.... done

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« Reply #288 on: March 20, 2012, 07:30:04 PM »
How exactly marriage ruins love? If two people really love each other then marriage doesn't change anything except female surname. Well it changes your material situation but for the better. Eg if you're not married and your significant other dies without last will, you get jack shit. Hell, even with last will the asshole part of his/her family will get a bunch of lawyers and make it so the will doesn't count because "he/she was not in his/her clear mind when writting the will" or "was made by the significant other" or something. And I'm speaking with experience here because some asshole part of my grand grandfather canceld his last will because they weren't satisfied with what they got.

I seen more then once when marriage ruins the love. Some people go all crazy and funny and strange after get married. Not all, but some big part of them. They seems to start to act differently then before, its like signing that peace of paper made them think that the other person is their property or something. Not all can deal with that.

Oh people can appeal wills even if they were written in marriage...


And what idiot gets so desperate at age of 25 when life just begins, well beside ones with imaginary friends, can not hold these responsible need to blame their upbringing or idiocy to believe that believing in god should be regulated by some kind of old fashioned code of morality.

You might be surprised... The amount of people I know at that age or younger, think they need to hurry up and get married.

I don't understand it.

I understand it if they have imaginary friends, some part of my family all have a common imaginary friend and some of them got married because their imaginary friend said - no sex without a marriage. Oh and now when they are barely 20-25 they already have 2 kids and husband part of the couple have cancer and most likely will die... Fun life.....
That's what you get by believing in imaginary friends.


Darn my manly brother even wears pink shirts

Not long ago wearing pink and flamboyant clothes was the sign of manliness, since you had the balls to do it.

Example

Glam and all in that age is a different story and mostly nothing to do with manliness. Its like female have feminism man have this.


Darn my manly brother even wears pink shirts

Not long ago wearing pink and flamboyant clothes was the sign of manliness, since you had the balls to do it.

Example

Hair bands were not a good time for humanity.

Go sit in corner!!!
There is nothing wrong with hair bands...beside their looks :D


Hm, even I know love do exist. It might not be all that romance and all that stuff, but still it's there.

I just do not see what love have to do with marriage, well beside ruining the love.

I understand back in time when people had their imaginary friends in form of God/Gods they had to do stuff like marriage, but now its just kind of stupid.
I do understand that back then they was afraid to be left alone with the kid and so on. But now one can get a peace of paper saying - "yeah, this is your baby - pay up",no need for another paper saying - "you belong to me and only me". As if that means anything.

I get it if one wants to change surname, that is if the one person have is horrible beyond comprehensions, but even then there is simpler solution.

And what idiot gets so desperate at age of 25 when life just begins, well beside ones with imaginary friends, can not hold these responsible need to blame their upbringing or idiocy to believe that believing in god should be regulated by some kind of old fashioned code of morality.

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So, in the modern age, while marriage may not be a necessity anymore, I don't see anything wrong with the institution itself; it doesn't hurt anything.  At least in the U.S., I'm more concerned at how selfish people seem to be getting, how unwilling people are to make sacrifices for each other, especially in relationships.
 
There are a variety of reasons to get married; love doesn't necessarily have to enter the picture, it's just a common reason to do so, in part because of the frequent association between getting married & starting a family.


Sacrificing something for relationships or more not doing that is quite common in Europian morality based society.
I blame it on the fact that man did not actually ever sacrifice much to their home life and now women have stopped ruining their life's because of the man or kids, so there is nothing holding them together. It's all this modern morality where people are thought to be by themselves and so on, to go away from their families as soon as possible, not to trust anyone and so on.

love and marriage actually had nothing to do with each other in the beginning of it. Love entered in marriage just recently. Not recently, but as such it is quite new phenomena. Marriage was purely financial or political thing. I guess now that it have less to do with financial stuff people just think that the property they gain by doing this is the other person...and we all know that's silly. One can not get a proper slave in modern European society.  We all wish for it, but can not really get one because of all the idiotic rules that protect the week and deformed.


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Re: Are You Alone?
« Reply #289 on: March 20, 2012, 07:53:42 PM »
I seen more then once when marriage ruins the love. Some people go all crazy and funny and strange after get married. Not all, but some big part of them. They seems to start to act differently then before, its like signing that peace of paper made them think that the other person is their property or something. Not all can deal with that.
Then there were no love to begin with. At best they just thought they were in love.

Oh people can appeal wills even if they were written in marriage...
Yeah but in this situation the spouse gets something. Hell, I think that the spouse gets EVERYTHING (unless stated different in the will) and just after he/she dies children get something. Well, things are different if there is a second marriage but that's more complicated.

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« Reply #290 on: March 20, 2012, 08:41:07 PM »
I seen more then once when marriage ruins the love. Some people go all crazy and funny and strange after get married. Not all, but some big part of them. They seems to start to act differently then before, its like signing that peace of paper made them think that the other person is their property or something. Not all can deal with that.
Then there were no love to begin with. At best they just thought they were in love.



Well if couple lived together for almost 10 years and split up 3-4 months after got married I believe it have to do with the marriage and not the lack of love before it.
Some people just go strange after signing this paper, not all but some. Why risk it?
Beside getting married early then after living together for something like 5 years just is stupid.  Why ruin the statistics?

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« Reply #291 on: March 20, 2012, 09:45:57 PM »
I seen more then once when marriage ruins the love. Some people go all crazy and funny and strange after get married. Not all, but some big part of them. They seems to start to act differently then before, its like signing that peace of paper made them think that the other person is their property or something. Not all can deal with that.
Then there were no love to begin with. At best they just thought they were in love.

Well if couple lived together for almost 10 years and split up 3-4 months after got married I believe it have to do with the marriage and not the lack of love before it.
Some people just go strange after signing this paper, not all but some. Why risk it?
Beside getting married early then after living together for something like 5 years just is stupid.  Why ruin the statistics?

That just shows that the act of marriage is a great way to vanish the illusion. Like Dispel Magic in D&D :P If the love is true nothing will break the couple (damn, I sound like someone from a fairytail xD).
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« Reply #292 on: March 20, 2012, 09:54:13 PM »
True Love doesn't exist, only the increased capacity for putting up with someone else.

I'm gunna leave you anyway.

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« Reply #293 on: March 20, 2012, 10:01:10 PM »
you forgot about chemistry


its much more " true"  then "increased capacity for putting up with someone else"

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« Reply #294 on: March 20, 2012, 10:06:35 PM »
True Love doesn't exist, only the increased capacity for putting up with someone else.

My right (or maybe left) side of the brain agrees with you wholeheartedly, my left (or maybe right) don't.

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« Reply #295 on: March 20, 2012, 10:15:42 PM »
True Love doesn't exist, only the increased capacity for putting up with someone else.

My right (or maybe left) side of the brain agrees with you wholeheartedly, my left (or maybe right) don't.

I'm assuming this is to mean the creative and scientific sides of your brain or something along those lines?

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« Reply #296 on: March 21, 2012, 02:36:44 AM »
John wanted to get married as a sign of our commitment to each other and I guess proof to other people. Honestly, I could take or leave marriage. It seems a bit like it was just what we were expected to do. But along with it came my ability to get on his insurance, which -- with my health -- was pretty necessary. But tbh, it doesn't feel any different than when we were just living together. Aside from the fact that I now have to wear rings at all times. I'm always so scared I'm going to lose them. I'm not much of a jewelry person.

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« Reply #297 on: March 21, 2012, 02:39:21 AM »
My parents have an idyllic marriage, they're high school sweethearts and all that, they've been dating since they were 15, so part of my distrust of love comes from that ironically. My sister reacted in the completely opposite way, trying to rush through to get married...

I see the point of marriage, I just don't know if I could ever get there.

John wanted to get married as a sign of our commitment to each other and I guess proof to other people. Honestly, I could take or leave marriage. It seems a bit like it was just what we were expected to do. But along with it came my ability to get on his insurance, which -- with my health -- was pretty necessary. But tbh, it doesn't feel any different than when we were just living together. Aside from the fact that I now have to wear rings at all times. I'm always so scared I'm going to lose them. I'm not much of a jewelry person.

You can't just drop that and leave it >:(

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« Reply #298 on: March 21, 2012, 04:25:56 AM »
Holy fuck this thread is depressing.


I want a best friend who is a girl, not a girlfriend.


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« Reply #299 on: March 21, 2012, 08:00:30 AM »
Holy fuck this thread is depressing.


I want a best friend who is a girl, not a girlfriend.

This is my rebuttal.

I'm gunna leave you anyway.