Memory Sticks Instead Of Disc's

[Raylightsa3]

Ok Game Disc's and Memory Sticks have come along way and I think Memory sticks win.

Reasons why -
#1 They are Small
#2 They can hold as much data as a disc or Bluray
#3 They can last longer
#4 They Don't Break as easily
#5 Easier to store
#6 .... Ill think

[metro.]

They look awful.

[Raylightsa3]

looks arnt everything lol

[metro.]

Totally right, they just account for like 80% of everything.

Marketing is important, and until they make them look better I doubt they'll full switch.

[AceHigh]

Flash memory leaks as well when stored over a long period of time, so the data can get corrupted, however we are talking really long periods of time here.

I vote memory sticks as well, because I want to stop using and even having an optical disk drive in my computer, but for memory sticks I will only need to have USB connectors.

[metro.]

Flash memory leaks as well when stored over a long period of time, so the data can get corrupted, however we are talking really long periods of time here.

I vote memory sticks as well, because I want to stop using and even having an optical disk drive in my computer, but for memory sticks I will only need to have USB connectors.

I haven't used my optical drive aside from reformatting for the last three years.

You're doing something wrong...

[MangaMaster]

Bluray can hold upto 50GB of data (dual layer), the equivalent USB stick would cost 57 USD (retail price).
They most likely could get them cheaper than that but still way more expensive than a bluray disc.
So enjoy your more expensive games.

[Muk666]

give me everything digital and lower the price instead, couldnt care less about physical copies

[metro.]

give me everything digital and lower the price instead, couldnt care less about physical copies

Amen.

[Muk666]

Bluray can hold upto 50GB of data (dual layer), the equivalent USB stick would cost 57 USD (retail price).
They most likely could get them cheaper than that but still way more expensive than a bluray disc.
So enjoy your more expensive games.

every game wont need that much space so I'm they would probably cost like 1-2 dollars each to make =P

[AceHigh]

You're doing something wrong...

I am only using it for the same purpose as you. It is just in my computer for no good reason. Feels as outdated as having a floppy drive or something.

Also, there are a lot of memory sticks out there with a stylish look. If made for games, they could even have the theme matching the game.

Bluray can hold upto 50GB of data (dual layer), the equivalent USB stick would cost 57 USD (retail price).
They most likely could get them cheaper than that but still way more expensive than a bluray disc.
So enjoy your more expensive games.

There are no games out there that are 50GB large. There is no way blu ray reading speed is anywhere as fast as USB memory stick.

[MangaMaster]

every game wont need that much space so I'm they would probably cost like 1-2 dollars each to make =P

Still bluray discs are way cheaper to manufacture than USB sticks.
Estimated at 1.8 USD per single layer disc or 2.75 USD for a dual layer disc in 2008.
http://www.emedialive.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?CategoryID=112&ArticleID=14071

I don't think USB sticks are even remotely close to that figure.

Edit: Apparently NAND flash memory chips (Probably the most expensive part of USB sticks, but certainly not the total cost) cost about 1,6 USD per GB as of now (but is expected to drop according to the article with 40-50% when new manufacturing sites go up).
Still way more expensive than a single layer bluray disc. 25GB for 1,8 USD or 1,6 USD per GB for flash memory.

There are no games out there that are 50GB large. There is no way blu ray reading speed is anywhere as fast as USB memory stick.

Some games come pretty close to that, Final Fantasy XIII is 37.6GB large.
And Killzone 3 is 41.5GB

[Raylightsa3]

Its good that if you leave it in the washer in your pocket it still works

[elvikun]

Memory sticks are sort of indestructible, fit anywhere and there isn't a computer that wouldn't be able to read them. When you compare to Blu-ray, which is still rather fragile (It's about luck, you may run over it with a train and it works or touches the carpet once and it's done for) and big ...And also I dare say most of computers do not have BD mechanic yet.

[mgz]

digital memory ftw but no physical copies is even better.

There is several pluses to mem cards vs disks.

from the manufacturers POV -
retards will lose them constantly = MORE SALES
allows you to get rid of that shitty cd/bluray drive and the proprietary fees that are associated with using them as competitors, Allowing you to make a more visually appealing gaming console that is made smaller where possible.
you compare to a bluray disk but microsoft dont use bluray and neither does nintendo so compare to competition.
So yea 8gb usb stick vs disks from msft or 1 4gb stick for nintendo


Consumer POV-
Mass use of mem cards will drive cost down exponentially for consumers in the regular market,
No more scratched disks
No more disk drives to fail and less moving parts.
likely smaller consoles
faster load times

[deadskin]

allows you to get rid of that shitty cd/bluray drive and the proprietary fees that are associated with using them as competitors, Allowing you to make a more visually appealing gaming console that is made smaller where possible.
you compare to a bluray disk but microsoft dont use bluray and neither does nintendo so compare to competition.

Licensing fee for blu ray isn't really that expensive. IIRC it costs 10-15c USD per disk depending on the type of disk.
So yea 8gb usb stick vs disks from msft or 1 4gb stick for nintendo

Consumer POV-
Mass use of mem cards will drive cost down exponentially for consumers in the regular market,

That's not how supply and demand works.

[mgz]

allows you to get rid of that shitty cd/bluray drive and the proprietary fees that are associated with using them as competitors, Allowing you to make a more visually appealing gaming console that is made smaller where possible.
you compare to a bluray disk but microsoft dont use bluray and neither does nintendo so compare to competition.

Licensing fee for blu ray isn't really that expensive. IIRC it costs 10-15c USD per disk depending on the type of disk.
So yea 8gb usb stick vs disks from msft or 1 4gb stick for nintendo

Consumer POV-
Mass use of mem cards will drive cost down exponentially for consumers in the regular market,

That's not how supply and demand works.

its not how supply and demand works it how mass production works the more of something that is made due to a rising demand the lower production costs go and the cheaper you can produce and sell them while maintaining your desired profit margins.
Supply and demand only comes into effect when there is a finite or limited supply of something and its quantity is held at that amount regardless of demand.

[nstgc]

Disk:

• Cheaper (compare a BD-r to a USB thumb drive or SD card)
• can't assume that drives will be able to write to them (this is important so that ass hole companies don't pull a "you can only use this disk X number of times").
• easier to store (they just stack)

[xShadow]

Now, this could be completely wrong, economically... I have no idea, I'm not a business major. But:

I chose disk. Mainly because I don't know how moving all of our stuff over to USB is gonna affect other prices, and how they will even affect themselves. Basically, you're taking away the fixed cost for the disk drive, but you're moving over to another medium that relies on parts that are used in massive quantities in other locations.

Sure, right now it's fine because most people buy a USB drive and use it for a good while. Even if everyone in the US has one, it's not something that you necessarily need an overwhelming amount of, because at most everyone only really needs one.

If we move video games over to USB drives, I think it's going to slowly (or quickly) price hike stuff that relies on similar parts to it... which in turn will make the USB drives more expensive, because it's a vicious cycle.

Could be wrong... I don't know how much supply there is for USB parts, or what they're used for elsewhere.

[undetz]

give me everything digital and lower the price instead, couldnt care less about physical copies

Amen.

People like you are the reason we can't have nice things any more.