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Are You Getting an Arts Degree?
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@metro
i don't know about your uni, but in mine you've got to have taken at least to 1st year psych papers to do any 2nd year psych course, so either you're bullshitting or your uni has much lower standards then mine. this would also explain why you'd be able to get a decent grade, other than the fact that the majority of students in second year course have settled in and are happy with average grades, not looking to prove themselves better than others like someone coming into the course for the first time and working a lot to get a better grade than them. there is a reason why the majority of grades are average, not high, because most people in all degrees are happy with average grades. the population of average achievers by far outweighs high achievers across entire nations, not just arts degrees in university. also, where you said you study hard and often is the difference between and arts degree and a 'harder' degree is wrong, that's for all people. you study hard and often in any degree you'll do well, if you don't study and just bum around you'll fail in all degrees, even arts. that's pretty obvious.
@rostheferret
i think you said somewhere that you were writing? that's certainly admirable and respectable but i hope it's not like the wall of writing that was your incredibly over exaggerated sob-story. I know this is a forum so of course no-ones really going to bother about proper writing, but if you actually take writing course in uni they tell you how to work each paragraph, structurally and different types of words and their effects, to get your ideas across. its actually extremely helpful to writing and once you've mastered it and can subconsciously do this for each paragraph the quality of your writing can get pretty brilliant. most accomplished writers have been to uni for a reason, to learn these things.
(about your story, try going to a better uni if your science departments so horrific. the facilities at mine are fine, from what I've seen and my friends in science have told me. maybe you'r trying to save money by going to a cheap uni, but if you think an arts degrees a waste of money that you can learn at home, why are you learning in such a crappy environment, wouldn't that be a waste of money too, even if it may be a little cheaper. pay for a decent uni, just like i'm paying for a decent degree)
hopefully all that was coherent
Nikkoru:
My problem with Metro, he seems to be treating his education in the way people buy houses to flip them and sell them for a higher profit. He doesn't want to make his education his home, to live within it and have it ground him, but simply sees it as an instrument to earn a title or garner a certain wage.
Perhaps I'm wrong, I just know a lot of people who speak like that treat a university or college degree just as some kind of commodity but don't see the implicit value in acquiring knowledge, developing reasoning and judgment, and generally preparing intellectually for maturity. I'm of the religion that worships at the alter of knowledge, to which schools, colleges, universities, laboratories, and libraries are my cathedrals and temples. Ross argues that my faith need not be restricted to the halls of learning, which is true insofar that learning is an unlimited experience. It fails however, to capture aura of the experience that the classroom or lecture hall holds, of sharing the experience with others and seeking the wisdom of those who hold it.
I believe those who see formal education as a stepping stone are missing the point, of everything.
EmptyMemory:
--- Quote from: Nikkoru on March 07, 2012, 02:10:52 AM ---I believe those who see formal education as a stepping stone are missing the point, of everything.
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Nikkoru has a valid point.
While I agree that university can be a phenomenal experience for anyone, regardless of faculty, I still feel like you should be somewhat certain of where you want your university career to be headed before you start. Regardless of what your interests are, everyone should be inclined to spend those 4/5 years in the most effective way they can. While what Nikkoru has depicted is an integral part of the university experience, there are other things you want to optimize as well, i.e. where your degree will take you. I'd rather have both "the university experience" and a degree in a field that is practical and self-fulfilling.
Nikkoru:
--- Quote from: EmptyMemory on March 07, 2012, 02:34:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: Nikkoru on March 07, 2012, 02:10:52 AM ---I believe those who see formal education as a stepping stone are missing the point, of everything.
--- End quote ---
Nikkoru has a valid point.
While I agree that university can be a phenomenal experience for anyone, regardless of faculty, I still feel like you should be somewhat certain of where you want your university career to be headed before you start. Regardless of what your interests are, everyone should be inclined to spend those 4/5 years in the most effective way they can. While what Nikkoru has depicted is an integral part of the university experience, there are other things you want to optimize as well, i.e. where your degree will take you. I'd rather have both "the university experience" and a degree in a field that is practical and self-fulfilling.
--- End quote ---
If you work hard and have passion for the material, whatever it may be, you'll find yourself doing something you love.
It may not be what you imagined, but life is like that.
EmptyMemory:
--- Quote from: Nikkoru on March 07, 2012, 02:37:35 AM ---If you work hard and have passion for the material, whatever it may be, you'll find yourself doing something you love.
It may not be what you imagined, but life is like that.
--- End quote ---
And a little luck.
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