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Are You Getting an Arts Degree?
metro.:
@ Kid who called my University dumb, I don't remember you name.
I was in a second year Psych class because I took Psych AP when I was in Grade 11, thus granting me the first two semesters of Psychology. Also, yes Arts courses are easier, I know people that get good grades, and don't study. And if it was just one guy, I would agree with you, maybe he's just a super genius. But, it's not. It's my entire floor, and the one below me. Sorry, because you guys love my details, it is the majority of the two floors that are getting Arts degrees, and the majority of that subset are getting good grades, and the majority of that subset don't do nearly as much as the majority of people in Science. Regardless or marks.
Maybe smart people gravitate towards Arts degrees? I find that hard to believe but hey, that's just me.
Also, I have totally made myself clear that University is a stepping stone,or how was it put by someone I talked to.. A Key, University is a key that opens the door to the rest of your life. Sure, I'm all for having a good time while I'm here, both socially and academically. I love consuming knowledge, but that's not just done at school for me. Maybe that's just the way I was raised.
Instead of comics I would read the news paper or business magazines growing up because that's what was around. That's just an example, I have a feeling people are going to attack that...
--- Quote from: Nikkoru ---If you work hard and have passion for the material, whatever it may be, you'll find yourself doing something you love.
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I think we're making the same point here, but just in different ways. I work hard, and I have a passion for it, thus I'm going to get a job in a related field?
I don't love all of it, all the time. But that's an impossible expectation. I would be so pleased if I loved 50% of what I did working, and the other half was to get to that rewarding point. Rewarding in this way meaning intrinsically of course.
If by all means your passion is...History for example, let's go with Art History because it's been brought up before. You love Art History, that's amazing for you, but in only a limited number of opportunities in the work force will give you a chance to use that knowledge you hold so near and dear to your heart. That is my point.
Nikkoru:
--- Quote from: metro. on March 07, 2012, 05:39:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: Nikkoru ---If you work hard and have passion for the material, whatever it may be, you'll find yourself doing something you love.
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I think we're making the same point here, but just in different ways. I work hard, and I have a passion for it, thus I'm going to get a job in a related field?
I don't love all of it, all the time. But that's an impossible expectation. I would be so pleased if I loved 50% of what I did working, and the other half was to get to that rewarding point. Rewarding in this way meaning intrinsically of course.
If by all means your passion is...History for example, let's go with Art History because it's been brought up before. You love Art History, that's amazing for you, but in only a limited number of opportunities in the work force will give you a chance to use that knowledge you hold so near and dear to your heart. That is my point.
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Really? It does seem more like you're arguing that your path through life is the only one with merit. Not everyone needs a long range employment plan to be successful or happy, and many people come to University/College to discover their interests. There are career paths available, suffice it to say, they're just not ones which interest you. Which is fine.
I could not and would not gauge your passion, but if you're complaining about the workload and others lack thereof it is somewhat telling. It's only gong to get harder and you already seem tense.
Arts courses are easier in the 1000 and 2000 level than many Science courses of the same level in my experience, though I've done advanced theories on literary criticism, cultural theory and philosophy that can turn your head inside out and make you wonder where the off switch is. Psychology can be as a time-burdening as any math course I've taken. particularly if you're into research methods. In the third or fourth year of an Arts degree you start to encounter the difference between the mediocre minds and the truly gifted, and find it is considerable - I suspect most of your dorm mates are 1st years.
Science is mechanical and repetitive by its nature, a lot of work and a lot of memorization must be required. Though I've done economics courses before and didn't find them all that stressing relatively - it's equivalent to mathematics in workload, I just find the discourse mind-numbingly boring. The same goes for political theory after the 1000 stuff.
metro.:
We've reached a point where I can't make my point any clearer, and it's still not getting across.
Which isn't surprising I suppose, which is okay. We're just talking in circles at this point.
Saras:
--- Quote from: abc cuz on March 07, 2012, 12:56:45 AM ---@metro
i don't know about your uni, but in mine you've got to have taken at least to 1st year psych papers to do any 2nd year psych course, so either you're bullshitting or your uni has much lower standards then mine. this would also explain why you'd be able to get a decent grade, other than the fact that the majority of students in second year course have settled in and are happy with average grades, not looking to prove themselves better than others like someone coming into the course for the first time and working a lot to get a better grade than them. there is a reason why the majority of grades are average, not high, because most people in all degrees are happy with average grades. the population of average achievers by far outweighs high achievers across entire nations, not just arts degrees in university. also, where you said you study hard and often is the difference between and arts degree and a 'harder' degree is wrong, that's for all people. you study hard and often in any degree you'll do well, if you don't study and just bum around you'll fail in all degrees, even arts. that's pretty obvious.
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In our faculty, the average grade for Biochem students is ~86% and the average grade for Nanochem students is ~83%, simply because the requirements for joining are stupendous. Idiots and underachievers simply can't get into them. Chemists on the other hand range from rock bottom to the heavens.
abc cuz:
--- Quote from: metro. on March 07, 2012, 06:13:19 AM ---We've reached a point where I can't make my point any clearer, and it's still not getting across.
Which isn't surprising I suppose, which is okay. We're just talking in circles at this point.
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oh, your point is clear enough. You said 'my degree could be equally shit as yours', but then go on to say how much harder and how much more work it takes, but that it will lead into jobs. So, your saying your degree is good. Then you say Arts degree is shit, that its a waste of time and wont amount to anything. You're saying your degrees better than arts. I thought that was pretty clear, which is why we get this whole argument.
About the people in your halls, do you know what they're doing every minute of the day? Maybe they study when you don't see them, but instead of spending their free time cooped up in their room ranting on bakabt they go out and party, which is why you think they're more active. Who knows? And yes, maybe smart people do go into arts, because they actually know its worth and aren't going to go into other degrees and talk shit about something they don't know much about because they're jealous. Or maybe, you're just incredibly dumb and have to study a lot to make up for it in your degree, which is why you think theres so much more work. I guess only you know that one.
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