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How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« on: March 06, 2012, 01:34:45 AM »
Just curious if my cpu is in some way able to play hi10p.  My cpu is an Intel Celeron D 3.20 GHz, My graphic card is a Nvidia GeForce GT 220, and I have 2 gigs of ram.  I have tried alot of the "How to play Hi10p on a single core cpu" guides but they have all failed.  I use Windows media player classic with K-lite codec pack but i have also tried using the cccp codec pack as well but still no luck.  I've tried VLC player out of desperation but that also did not work.  I really want to be able to play 10p cause alot of places and fansubs are starting to weed out 8bit videos.  I can't afford a new computer or cpu right now cause i have a crappy job that barely gets me by with bills and essentials as it is, so i'm hoping that it isn't my cpu which i fear it might be.  Any help or suggestions will be awesome, i would try the conversion from 10bit to 8bit but from what i heard that can take a while per video and time is essential to me.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2012, 01:39:01 AM »
So how is your video playing?
Laggy?
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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2012, 04:17:54 AM »
Just curious if my cpu is in some way able to play hi10p.  My cpu is an Intel Celeron D 3.20 GHz, My graphic card is a Nvidia GeForce GT 220, and I have 2 gigs of ram.  I have tried alot of the "How to play Hi10p on a single core cpu" guides but they have all failed.  I use Windows media player classic with K-lite codec pack but i have also tried using the cccp codec pack as well but still no luck.  I've tried VLC player out of desperation but that also did not work.  I really want to be able to play 10p cause alot of places and fansubs are starting to weed out 8bit videos.  I can't afford a new computer or cpu right now cause i have a crappy job that barely gets me by with bills and essentials as it is, so i'm hoping that it isn't my cpu which i fear it might be.  Any help or suggestions will be awesome, i would try the conversion from 10bit to 8bit but from what i heard that can take a while per video and time is essential to me.  Thanks in advance.
Update your Videocard Driver before you do anything else.

Uninstall all third party codecs and players. Install CCCP's latest release. Open up Media Player Classic - Check the box for Process Priority above Normal. Then go to View > Options > Output and select Haali Renderer. Go under Playback and the four boxes under Open Settings should all be checked. Once your done, close down the player then try to open up any 480p/720p 10-bit file. See if that helps. They should work for 8-bit.


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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2012, 06:22:44 AM »
Yeah vuzedome the video plays but really laggy, the subtitles are offsync and the video goes in real slow motion.  I already updated my video card drivers when i read the first guide i tried tatsujin, but i'll try the cccp thing the way you said real quick and see if that helps, i'll let you know if it does.

I tried it and its still lagging Tatsujin, still plays 8bit videos fine but 10bit still lags.

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« Last Edit: March 06, 2012, 09:03:56 AM by Duki3003 »

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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2012, 07:48:16 AM »
If no one else is using your computer while you're asleep, or not using it, you can convert videos while you're not using it, some converters will even shut down your computer when finished.

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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2012, 09:08:59 AM »
A single core is not enough, possibly for sd releases using LAV filter or CoreAVC 3, but no guarantee.
You may have to resort to searching for alternative 8-bit versions, converting 10-bit or upgrading your rig.

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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2012, 09:18:34 AM »
ummm, have you guys forgotten that the videocard is useless when it comes to H10P/10bit?

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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2012, 10:47:09 AM »
If no one else is using your computer while you're asleep, or not using it, you can convert videos while you're not using it, some converters will even shut down your computer when finished.

This unfortunately. Singlecores don't use much power anyway.

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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2012, 10:50:19 AM »
Guess i'll have to convert when i can't find 8bit, until i can save up enough for a new computer.  I'm new to the whole converting thing so if somebody could suggest an easy to use program i would be extremely grateful.

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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2012, 12:52:15 PM »
ummm, have you guys forgotten that the videocard is useless when it comes to H10P/10bit?
Actually, it will, just not on the decoding part.
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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2012, 01:14:54 PM »
This unfortunately. Singlecores don't use much power anyway.

... You'd be surprised at how much more power an old single core draws and how much more heat it releases than a modern multi-core CPU, as long as we are sticking with Intel and not bringing in AMD's power-hungry processors.

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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2012, 06:40:47 AM »
Guess i'll have to convert when i can't find 8bit, until i can save up enough for a new computer.  I'm new to the whole converting thing so if somebody could suggest an easy to use program i would be extremely grateful.

I would strongly recommend Format Factory. Handbrake gives you more control but it takes quite a bit of fiddling to convert your library (I still can't get the mass conversion in handbrake to work properly! So i'm stuck converting them one by one).

Format Factory has a ton of presets (I recommend going to the mobile section and picking the iPod profile if you've got a low end PC, it's low resolution baseline so should work anywhere), pick one or set your own profile, set which soundtrack or subtitle you want it to use, and drag the entire folder into the file list box. If you set it to use Subtitle Index 0, which usually means the first subtitle it's got embedded in a file, every MKV you've dragged into it, will have their first subtitles burned in without needing to set them individually. Handy if you're converting anime by the dozens. Like say, the hundred or so episodes of Gundam Seed.

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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2012, 08:19:58 AM »
ummm, have you guys forgotten that the videocard is useless when it comes to H10P/10bit?
Wait, you mean CoreAVC's CUDA is not effective? ...
This unfortunately. Singlecores don't use much power anyway.

... You'd be surprised at how much more power an old single core draws and how much more heat it releases than a modern multi-core CPU, as long as we are sticking with Intel and not bringing in AMD's power-hungry processors.
My old single core Intel processor was dispensing enough heat out of the case ... I had to close all my vents in my room in the winter time and enjoy the free heat out of the case.


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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2012, 09:56:25 AM »
nope, not at all, 1080p 10bit wips my E3300 to 100%, 1080p 8bit stays 65% using cuda.

though 100% smooth, so i'm still happy even though its sad... ok i just said something weird.

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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2012, 05:42:38 PM »
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I made a post on an alternate to CCCP here:

http://forums.bakabt.me/index.php?topic=32415.msg4735079#msg4735079

Still uses MPC-HC.  My system is barely more powerful than yours.  The problem being your CPU is Celeron.  The graphics card has no effect on Hi10P/10-bit encode.  It's all about your CPU and the software you use for playback.

I gained substantial extra playback capacity with the configuration listed in that post.  No, I can only rarely play back 1080 encodes, but I can play a hell of a lot of 720 encodes, and pretty much all 10-bit.

Keep in mind that the individual encode has some variation depending on settings used by the encoder ... so definitely try a few different 8-bit & 10-bit encodes.  Some will fail, others might not.
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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2012, 06:47:10 PM »
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I made a post on an alternate to CCCP here:

http://forums.bakabt.me/index.php?topic=32415.msg4735079#msg4735079

Still uses MPC-HC.  My system is barely more powerful than yours.  The problem being your CPU is Celeron.  The graphics card has no effect on Hi10P/10-bit encode.  It's all about your CPU and the software you use for playback.

I gained substantial extra playback capacity with the configuration listed in that post.  No, I can only rarely play back 1080 encodes, but I can play a hell of a lot of 720 encodes, and pretty much all 10-bit.

Keep in mind that the individual encode has some variation depending on settings used by the encoder ... so definitely try a few different 8-bit & 10-bit encodes.  Some will fail, others might not.
... Wow ... That processor ... is ... D:

Edit -- I've basically gotten rid of CoreAVC and the custom FFDShow (was it?) since the latest installment of CCCP. I play 10-bit 1080p videos just fine - no stutters, delays, etc. Plays smoothly.
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Re: How to play hi10p videos on single core cpu
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2012, 06:57:15 PM »
^i beg to differ, celeron isn't such a bad name anymore, since the introduction of [wolfdale] celeron E3xxx and [sandy-bridge] celeron G5xx they've been quite a favorable option i might say.

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