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AceHigh:
I believe that unlike you most people here have a reading comprehension. Don't drag them down to your intellectual level.
Besides Nikkoru just broke several of your values in an argument by putting words in my mouth, providing unbacked claims, making assumptions about others out of ignorance, while at the same time disregarding my actual arguments and claims while cherry picking material to be reflected in your snide pictures, all of that just because you just happen to support his agenda. Hypocrite much?
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Burkingam:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on March 18, 2012, 11:17:00 PM ---I believe that unlike you most people here have a reading comprehension. Don't drag them down to your intellectual level.
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I believe that most people here can understand a not so subtle message directed to them. Since apparently there is at least one person who doesn't understand it I will put it more clearly. When someone talk calmly and politely to you and you answer aggressively, e.g. by insulting them, nobody cares what you were trying to say anymore. All we really register it that you are a fucktard incapable of having a civilized conversation.
inb4 AceHigh yapping furiously at me.
Ixarku:
--- Quote from: Nikkoru on March 18, 2012, 02:16:19 PM ---Again, I don't see the part where I argued you have to live like a spartan. Not smoking, eating a balanced diet low on saturated fats and cholesterol, drinking in moderation, and a few minutes of your time to exercise and socialize each week is hardly self-flagellation. I know because I live it, I learned how to cook meals based on their nutrition value and taste, I have fun and exercise, and I try and embrace life.
You're working hard now for your future happiness, don't you want to be able to enjoy it?
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My point is simple -- your way isn't the only way. It works for you, and that's great. It wouldn't work for me. I don't have the self-discipline or interest to exercise as much as I need to. I indulge in junk food every once in a while, have no desire to give it up. I may not be eating enough vegetables but I do at least try to eat balanced most of the time. I'm 170 pounds and 5 foot 7 inches tall, so my weight is right where it should be, or close enough. My blood pressure & cholesterol are slightly higher than they should be. I'm relatively happy now, my lifestyle as it is suits me, and moving my life in a more spartan direction isn't going to make me any happier.
The one thing I have learned from watching some of my family and co-workers die off over the years while they are at pre-retirement age, while seeing others live to become old and frail, is to plan for the future but don't actually expect to make it there. I've just seen it happen too many times. As Ace has said in not-so-many words, there are no guarantees in life, and plenty of risk. I'm perfectly happy with the trade-off for health later versus indulgence now. I haven't made my choices out of ignorance or short-sightedness; my priorities are simply different from yours.
AceHigh:
--- Quote from: Burkingam on March 18, 2012, 11:36:51 PM ---When someone talk calmly and politely to you and you answer aggressively, e.g. by insulting them, nobody cares what you were trying to say anymore. All we really register it that you are a fucktard incapable of having a civilized conversation.
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Insults are insults no matter if they are worded politely or not. I responded to the insults directed at me in a blunt and clear way, without bothering to wrap it in a politically correct package. That is my way of communicating with honesty. If you can't handle a few curse words here and there, isn't really a problem of mine, however the claim of civilized conversations from your perspective means that it's ok to insult others as long as you patronize them politely. Sorry, that's not my style.
Nikkoru:
Go on, this is interesting.
--- Quote from: Ixarku on March 18, 2012, 11:54:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nikkoru on March 18, 2012, 02:16:19 PM ---Again, I don't see the part where I argued you have to live like a spartan. Not smoking, eating a balanced diet low on saturated fats and cholesterol, drinking in moderation, and a few minutes of your time to exercise and socialize each week is hardly self-flagellation. I know because I live it, I learned how to cook meals based on their nutrition value and taste, I have fun and exercise, and I try and embrace life.
You're working hard now for your future happiness, don't you want to be able to enjoy it?
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My point is simple -- your way isn't the only way. It works for you, and that's great. It wouldn't work for me. I don't have the self-discipline or interest to exercise as much as I need to. I indulge in junk food every once in a while, have no desire to give it up. I may not be eating enough vegetables but I do at least try to eat balanced most of the time. I'm 170 pounds and 5 foot 7 inches tall, so my weight is right where it should be, or close enough. My blood pressure & cholesterol are slightly higher than they should be. I'm relatively happy now, my lifestyle as it is suits me, and moving my life in a more spartan direction isn't going to make me any happier.
The one thing I have learned from watching some of my family and co-workers die off over the years while they are at pre-retirement age, while seeing others live to become old and frail, is to plan for the future but don't actually expect to make it there. I've just seen it happen too many times. As Ace has said in not-so-many words, there are no guarantees in life, and plenty of risk. I'm perfectly happy with the trade-off for health later versus indulgence now. I haven't made my choices out of ignorance or short-sightedness; my priorities are simply different from yours.
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I understand, I don't deny your perspective. You just seem ...melancholic and fatalistic. It's one thing not to actively seek longevity - people can and will make there own decisions all I can do is warn them of the consequences if they aren't aware - it's another to say you wouldn't mind dying tomorrow. I like you, and it's difficult to accept that you can shrug off your life like that.
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