TERA

[Slysoft]

Surprised there's no thread on this considering it's been out for a year and 3 months and is in NA testing.

Anyone playing this? I've been on the Korean servers but have quit that now that NA is in testing. CBT3 was this last weekend and I got some decent footage (and some mediocre as well) of what went on this weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC7kGK87bOg

What class are you guys who do play? Are you enjoying it?

[Soryon]

What class are you guys who do play?

ELIN

[logos]

Surprised there's no thread on this considering it's been out for a year and 3 months and is in NA testing.

Anyone playing this? I've been on the Korean servers but have quit that now that NA is in testing. CBT3 was this last weekend and I got some decent footage (and some mediocre as well) of what went on this weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC7kGK87bOg

What class are you guys who do play? Are you enjoying it?

I've only heard bad things about this game so I never bothered with korean servers or betas.  Depending on how bored I am when it gets released I may pick it up to check it out for myself, but I'm not very interested.

[SeventyX7]

It's going to have to compete with Diablo 3 and GW2, that does not bode well for it.

[metro.]

It's going to have to compete with Diablo 3 and GW2, that does not bode well for it.

And of course the mass of MMO devouring monster that is WoW.

[Slysoft]

It's going to have to compete with Diablo 3 and GW2, that does not bode well for it.

Diablo 3 is not even an mmo and GW2 is way overhyped in my opinion, not to say that I don't want to buy it.

[xfreidax]

I hear there's not much to do at endgame currently. True or false?

[undetz]

What class are you guys who do play?

ELIN

Oh, that.

[SeventyX7]

It's going to have to compete with Diablo 3 and GW2, that does not bode well for it.

Diablo 3 is not even an mmo and GW2 is way overhyped in my opinion, not to say that I don't want to buy it.

Doesn't matter that it's not an mmo, it's competing for the same audience.  There's a reason every person who plays mmo's today has played Diablo 2 back in the day.

Plus GW2 will have no sub like GW1 and more is MMO-like than ever. 

Furthermore, Tera's claim to being different is how it's more action-rpg like than other MMO's, and both D3 and GW2 are appealing to the same notion.

I'm not saying Tera is bad, or it will fail out of the gate (I have no idea, really) I'm just stating what should be obvious; it will have crazy-difficult competition.  More than any other MMO released, I'd wager.

[Nikkoru]

Doesn't seem to be much incentive in being a close-quarters fighter, based on the video.

Unfortunately with MMOs, success or failure has a lot to do with hype. Nothing so discouraging to enjoying an online game than feeling lonely due to poor early sales, even if you've got a hidden gem there.

[Slysoft]

Well as far as D3 is concerned, I never played any diablo games, but I've heard from people in the D3 beta that it's basically just diablo 2 with better graphics and some updated game mechanics. The big reason I am not even interested is the fact that they are essentially making RWT legal by letting you buy items for real money ingame.

Guildwars 2 I think will do great. What I mean by it is overhyped is honestly it isn't really doing anything THAT innovative, but rather just taking the original guildwars (which I loved) and bringing it to 2012. I definitely think that guildwars 2 will have some of the best competitive PvP around like the original did and will have something to offer for any mmo fan, no matter if you are casual or hardcore.

Tera is more appealing to the hardcore crowd imo. Server politics matters. World PvP matters. Guild vs Guild matters. It has western gameplay but it is very asian in that respect, unlike most western mmos nowadays, where the community and guild politics don't really mean anything as far as progression and content is concerned.

[Nikkoru]

Well as far as D3 is concerned, I never played any diablo games, but I've heard from people in the D3 beta that it's basically just diablo 2 with better graphics and some updated game mechanics. The big reason I am not even interested is the fact that they are essentially making RWT legal by letting you buy items for real money ingame.

RWT would happen without the system, this method bottoms out the demand for a black-market sweatshops. Blizzard accepts the reality of the situation and turned it around into a profitable yet not completely scuzzy alternative to backroom deals.

It's like making prostitution and marijuana legal, taxing and regulating it in turn. Even if you disapprove of the practice it's better you know who you're dealing with. You'll find the same sort of transactions in TERA but it will be largely invisible, and some South Asian or South American gangster will be making off with the riches.

If you've never played Diablo I or II, you'd not be aware of how wonderful that sounds.

[Slysoft]

Obviously it happens. You'd have to have never played an mmo to think that. But the fact that it isn't allowed and there is the chance of being banned is enough of a deterrent to most people to not do it. The fact that blizzard says that you can do it automatically not only gives those people who like spending hundreds of dollars on some item in a game an advantage, but it is also obviously just another money grab by blizzard, king of micro transactions. Fun fact: blizzard makes way more money per month on micro transactions for world of warcraft than they do from subscription fees. Many games have the best gear as bind on pickup, so you can't simply buy your way to the best character. I don't know how D3 will handle that, but if everything is tradeable then there really is no competition since some guy who can't play the game will have better gear than you because he spends his welfare check on pixels.

[SeventyX7]

I can sort of agree with slysoft for a few reasons.

(1. It won't get rid of those "chinese gangsters," it will only validate what they do.  You don't seriously believe they won't simply sell it via Blizzard's official shop instead of via their own sites, do you?

(2. It makes "pay to win" more acceptable.  People buying stuff through some goldbuying site is something the general community considers dishonorable or lame or perhaps even cheating.  It's not in the spirit of the game.  Blizzard "legalizing it" will give these people who pay to win the recourse, "it's part of the game, it's not cheating."  We'll be seeing more people "paying to win" than ever before in D3

[Nikkoru]

Obviously it happens. You'd have to have never played an mmo to think that. But the fact that it isn't allowed and there is the chance of being banned is enough of a deterrent to most people to not do it. The fact that blizzard says that you can do it automatically not only gives those people who like spending hundreds of dollars on some item in a game an advantage, but it is also obviously just another money grab by blizzard, king of micro transactions. Fun fact: blizzard makes way more money per month on micro transactions for world of warcraft than they do from subscription fees. Many games have the best gear as bind on pickup, so you can't simply buy your way to the best character. I don't know how D3 will handle that, but if everything is tradeable then there really is no competition since some guy who can't play the game will have better gear than you because he spends his welfare check on pixels.

I don't disagree that it's a money making exercise on Blizzard's part, that's to be expected. RWT is inevitable, not admirable. Besides, unlike WoW, it's far less involved with other players as it's not an MMO.

I can sort of agree with slysoft for a few reasons.

(1. It won't get rid of those "chinese gangsters," it will only validate what they do.  You don't seriously believe they won't simply sell it via Blizzard's official shop instead of via their own sites, do you?

(2. It makes "pay to win" more acceptable.  People buying stuff through some goldbuying site is something the general community considers dishonorable or lame or perhaps even cheating.  It's not in the spirit of the game.  Blizzard "legalizing it" will give these people who pay to win the recourse, "it's part of the game, it's not cheating."  We'll be seeing more people "paying to win" than ever before in D3

What it will do is vastly decrease the profitability of RWTs through simply increasing and centralizing the available supply. And eliminate in-game bots flooding the channel with advertisements. Nothing will eliminate RWT, no matter the measures taken - but this is a means of mitigating it.

As for the other argument, I return to my prostitution/recreational drug use analogy - people are doing it anyways. Rather than futile efforts to stamp it out which are divorced from reality, it's a rational precaution which lets the douches be douches and me enjoy my game. I prefer pragmatism, personally.

[blubart]

back on topic please.

[DeadSpaceX]

Elin~Archer (20) Elin~Priest (12), and yep, enjoy it. pretty unique as the whole way to fight is to anticipate mobs attacks and avoid them, while a few other mmos have an active battle system, issues with your toon being out of range yet getting hit anyway tends to happen more often than not (DDO one example). Tera that doesn't happen, if you're out of range you don't get hit.

[SeventyX7]

Elin~Archer (20) Elin~Priest (12), and yep, enjoy it. pretty unique as the whole way to fight is to anticipate mobs attacks and avoid them, while a few other mmos have an active battle system, issues with your toon being out of range yet getting hit anyway tends to happen more often than not (DDO one example). Tera that doesn't happen, if you're out of range you don't get hit.

Sounds like the Monster Hunter Frontier.  I've wanted that game to come stateside so hard for awhile now.

[Raydi]

Yay! Tera!

It is a very fun game in my opinion, I play a male Castanic warrior up to beta caps so far. Its a very pretty game, and I love the combat mechanics so far. I used to be a very competitive gamer in shooters and even another mmo, but honestly I haven't touched any of the pvp stuff; I've just been enjoying grouping with people and friends, or solo grinding (not sure why, but I love solo grinding o_o). So far the PVE is great! Easy at the start like most games, but it gets more challenging.

If anyone is looking for a fun game, I highly recommend it. Considering they are (I think still?) implementing a pay system similar to eve online, you should be able to pay with in game money, so theoretically it won't cost you anything after you buy it! I don't have a ton of details myself, but I know there is info on their main site.

Anyway, just because I personally can't say it enough, its a great game :)

[Jesta23]

I see the Tera thread talking about gameplay, but im surprised no one has mentioned the censorship issue that comes with it.

There are many reasons people say it was done, but the 2 most accepted ones are that they feared a backlash from overzealous religious people, and the upper management at Enmasse found them distasteful.

How do you guys feel about it? I know that if it were an anime coming over people would go apeshit if they censored something as trivial as this in it.


PS: If you are not familiar with what has been changed, the Elin race, has had all of their bottom's(bikini styled armor for the most part) replaced with shorts. and all of their stomach's covered.