TERA

[Nikkoru]

One would have thought that with all the customization options available in the MMO genera, that making a character to suit your taste and having armour available to go along with it isn't too much to ask at this point. If you want to build a sex bunny, that's fine, but the options should be for the individual players.

[xfreidax]

So if you prefer skanky armour on the females, that instantly makes you a horny teenager? 

For what it's worth, I'm repulsed by games with skimpy female armour too. Why the discrimination and double standards? I reckon the males should be decked in thongs as well. 

I have many female friends who play mmorpg's. Not a single one of them complain about the skanky outfits. Take Rift for example. One of the few games that tries to cover up female characters, relatively speaking... The minute they introduced an appearance tab in that game, all the females in my guild instantly ditched the plate and chainmails for frilly lingerie like garb that reveal plenty of skin. The favourite look amongst them, I can best describe as a dishy barmaid. Anyone who's played Rift will know the look. It's the rogue starter top plus hot pants with thigh high boots 

[newy]

It's interesting how everyone can go on and on about the appearances (BUT it's true, it costs atmosphere).

I play the beta and I love the possibility to fight elite monsters solo with a warrior(!) on the same level. The only other MMORPGs I played were WoW and a bit of Aion, WarOnline. No need to think of fighting elite mobs there as a melee.

If I wanted to play a male characters from the races with choices it'd be either human or amani. Castanic and high elf simply look gay or to be more neutral, metro sexual... >_>

And about the Elin, if anyone hates them, play on a PVP server and hunt them. Personally, I don't care about them. All I need to know is that they are to be old forests spirits, that's all. I will neither play one nor deal with them other than having some in a random party.

[elvikun]

So if you prefer skanky armour on the females, that instantly makes you a horny teenager? 

Actually, I have said that half of MMO player are horny teenagers, and a lot of other people still like to see what they consider appealing, so it's natural for the companies to oblige with revealing outfits. Slight difference there.

Either way, haven't played Rift for long, but yeah, complex armor customisation is indeed quite rare, on the other hand, so is character one. As long as people pay and are somewhat quiet everything's good I guess.

But sure, granted, there could be more of the realistic games, on the other hand, I still think it's kind of out of line to complain about skimpy outfits in game which is basically all about skimpyness.

[Soryon]

So if you prefer skanky armour on the females, that instantly makes you a horny teenager? 

Actually, I have said that half of MMO player are horny teenagers,

Slightly off topic, but I cant say if the over-all population in MMOs are teenagers, but if you talk about endgame raid stuff it tends to be old folks.

[elvikun]

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So if you prefer skanky armour on the females, that instantly makes you a horny teenager? 

Actually, I have said that half of MMO player are horny teenagers,

Slightly off topic, but I cant say if the over-all population in MMOs are teenagers, but if you talk about endgame raid stuff it tends to be old folks.

Well, I'd say it depends mostly on the game and the company you keep. Mostly on the company you keep. Also the times when you play.While at 3Pm you are more likely to run into younger people, 10PM+ the opposite.

But I think last time I saw somewhat decent looking statistics, about +-43% were 19 and less, which I actually find to be believable.15-18 making the largest mass of that, which, coincidentaly, is the group that is most likely to be horny  Not that I blame them for something. Just saying.

[Sakubo]

So if you prefer skanky armour on the females, that instantly makes you a horny teenager? 

Actually, I have said that half of MMO player are horny teenagers, and a lot of other people still like to see what they consider appealing, so it's natural for the companies to oblige with revealing outfits. Slight difference there.

Either way, haven't played Rift for long, but yeah, complex armor customisation is indeed quite rare, on the other hand, so is character one. As long as people pay and are somewhat quiet everything's good I guess.

But sure, granted, there could be more of the realistic games, on the other hand, I still think it's kind of out of line to complain about skimpy outfits in game which is basically all about skimpyness.

If you do a search on google you can see age demo graphics for alot of different mmos. Even games like wow the avg age of players is like 28-30 not teenagers. Just because male players like females to be wearing attractive / revealing armor doesnt make them a bunch of horny kids. Horny adults maybe but not teenagers.

[elvikun]

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So if you prefer skanky armour on the females, that instantly makes you a horny teenager? 

Actually, I have said that half of MMO player are horny teenagers, and a lot of other people still like to see what they consider appealing, so it's natural for the companies to oblige with revealing outfits. Slight difference there.

Either way, haven't played Rift for long, but yeah, complex armor customisation is indeed quite rare, on the other hand, so is character one. As long as people pay and are somewhat quiet everything's good I guess.

But sure, granted, there could be more of the realistic games, on the other hand, I still think it's kind of out of line to complain about skimpy outfits in game which is basically all about skimpyness.

If you do a search on google you can see age demo graphics for alot of different mmos. Even games like wow the avg age of players is like 28-30 not teenagers. Just because male players like females to be wearing attractive / revealing armor doesnt make them a bunch of horny kids. Horny adults maybe but not teenagers.

Yes, 28 was average age 8 years ago, but it actually went down abit (average). Check the post above yours. Either way, I have not said it makes you a horny teenager/kid, I have said that the fact large portion of people want it is important for marketing.  Misinterpreting what I said (again) is not apperciated.

[krumm]

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So if you prefer skanky armour on the females, that instantly makes you a horny teenager? 

Actually, I have said that half of MMO player are horny teenagers, and a lot of other people still like to see what they consider appealing, so it's natural for the companies to oblige with revealing outfits. Slight difference there.

Either way, haven't played Rift for long, but yeah, complex armor customisation is indeed quite rare, on the other hand, so is character one. As long as people pay and are somewhat quiet everything's good I guess.

But sure, granted, there could be more of the realistic games, on the other hand, I still think it's kind of out of line to complain about skimpy outfits in game which is basically all about skimpyness.

If you do a search on google you can see age demo graphics for alot of different mmos. Even games like wow the avg age of players is like 28-30 not teenagers. Just because male players like females to be wearing attractive / revealing armor doesnt make them a bunch of horny kids. Horny adults maybe but not teenagers.

Yes, 28 was average age 8 years ago, but it actually went down abit (average). Check the post above yours. Either way, I have not said it makes you a horny teenager/kid, I have said that the fact large portion of people want it is important for marketing.  Misinterpreting what I said (again) is not apperciated.

I don't really care, so I'm not going to bother fact checking.  This was posted on dec 2010(Its probably from a old study, but I can't find anything newer.) and it says avg age in WoW is 30.  So I don't know where you get your numbers but at least Sakubos is a repeatable search.

The only reason I bothered looking is because I wanted a source.  Also according to this 40% of mmo players are female.

I don't really believe this stuff is really that accurate(it's based off internet surveys and its old), but one thing I don't like is statistics that have no source and are therefor made up.  I can't be the only one that thinks bad of people that post "made up" numbers to "win" an internet argument.

[undetz]

Which is why not many people play fat characters with curly hair wearing a hobocoat.

Speak for yourself

I am.
I don't believe you do play fat OR curly characters tho. Screenshots or it didn't happen. And in case it would be in D&D... no... That... That would be just wrong and twisted.

I think it's been done...

53. Not allowed to start a drow character weighing more than a quarter ton.

[elvikun]

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So if you prefer skanky armour on the females, that instantly makes you a horny teenager? 

Actually, I have said that half of MMO player are horny teenagers, and a lot of other people still like to see what they consider appealing, so it's natural for the companies to oblige with revealing outfits. Slight difference there.

Either way, haven't played Rift for long, but yeah, complex armor customisation is indeed quite rare, on the other hand, so is character one. As long as people pay and are somewhat quiet everything's good I guess.

But sure, granted, there could be more of the realistic games, on the other hand, I still think it's kind of out of line to complain about skimpy outfits in game which is basically all about skimpyness.

If you do a search on google you can see age demo graphics for alot of different mmos. Even games like wow the avg age of players is like 28-30 not teenagers. Just because male players like females to be wearing attractive / revealing armor doesnt make them a bunch of horny kids. Horny adults maybe but not teenagers.

Yes, 28 was average age 8 years ago, but it actually went down abit (average). Check the post above yours. Either way, I have not said it makes you a horny teenager/kid, I have said that the fact large portion of people want it is important for marketing.  Misinterpreting what I said (again) is not apperciated.

I don't really care, so I'm not going to bother fact checking.  This was posted on dec 2010(Its probably from a old study, but I can't find anything newer.) and it says avg age in WoW is 30.  So I don't know where you get your numbers but at least Sakubos is a repeatable search.

The only reason I bothered looking is because I wanted a source.  Also according to this 40% of mmo players are female.

I don't really believe this stuff is really that accurate(it's based off internet surveys and its old), but one thing I don't like is statistics that have no source and are therefor made up.  I can't be the only one that thinks bad of people that post "made up" numbers to "win" an internet argument.

Allright, you win. You missed the point, but you have won. And so the conclusion...
All outfits, especially in TERA, are made the way they are because noone whatsoever wants to see them that way and we should censor them all.

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Which is why not many people play fat characters with curly hair wearing a hobocoat.

Speak for yourself

I am.
I don't believe you do play fat OR curly characters tho. Screenshots or it didn't happen. And in case it would be in D&D... no... That... That would be just wrong and twisted.

I think it's been done...

53. Not allowed to start a drow character weighing more than a quarter ton.

Oh. Well. That should be illegal  and treated ans international war crime and crime aginst humanity.

[Slysoft]

Who cares how it looks? Writing off a game because you don't like the art style is very close minded. Video games are about gameplay which tera has a lot of. If you want to watch a movie then go watch a movie. But I guess that's why so many games nowadays are just corridors with cutscenes, it's all people care about.

[logos]

Who cares how it looks? Writing off a game because you don't like the art style is very close minded. Video games are about gameplay which tera has a lot of. If you want to watch a movie then go watch a movie. But I guess that's why so many games nowadays are just corridors with cutscenes, it's all people care about.

Looks are pretty important for a game that you could potentially be putting thousands of hours into playing...if you don't enjoy looking at what you're playing then why would you continue?

...I was also under the impression that tera's gameplay was lacking...can't judge until/if I play for myself though

[Sakubo]

I have 2 codes left for the NA beta this weekend if someone still wants to try the game out.
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[AceHigh]

...I was also under the ipression that tera's gameplay was lacking...can't judge until/if I play for myself though

Not sure about gameplay, but the combat system seems really interesting. No tab-targeting, but moving around freely so you can dodge enemies.

That is why it is so sad that they ruined the game for me with their shitty aesthetics.

[Jesta23]

...I was also under the impression that tera's gameplay was lacking...can't judge until/if I play for myself though

It starts off really slow, and actually quite boring.

But gets much better as you get further into it. At around 20-25 things pick up, then its really fun 50-60, and end game.

Most people played a beta got to level 10 or 15 and decided it was boring. Can't blame anyone for that because its true. Thats the games biggest downfall.

But if you put the time into it, it does get very fun and entertaining.

[Sakubo]

...I was also under the impression that tera's gameplay was lacking...can't judge until/if I play for myself though

It starts off really slow, and actually quite boring.

But gets much better as you get further into it. At around 20-25 things pick up, then its really fun 50-60, and end game.

Most people played a beta got to level 10 or 15 and decided it was boring. Can't blame anyone for that because its true. Thats the games biggest downfall.

But if you put the time into it, it does get very fun and entertaining.

I think it will depend on the person. If the person is burned out from Wow or one of its newer clones Rift Star Wars etc then chances are they are going to be bored unless they enjoy the combat. If you dont like the combat you probably wont like the game. The combat is the core of the game. The questing and stuff is just like wow and every other mmo in the last 5 years its boring or whatever just used as a way to level. Personally I didnt mind questing because it was almost all kill xx mob quests which are the only ones I like anyway. I like the game and plan to get it at release but I like the combat. My brothers are both active wow players dont want to play it. One didnt like the combat and the other didnt like that there is no real pet class. I will be playing on the NA servers at release I already preordered. My advice is this. If you havent tried it yet try the open beta in 2 weeks. If you like the combat than you should buy the game. The combat only gets more fun as you level. If you cant stand the combat then I dont think questing and whatever else is in the game will be enough to hold your interest.

[DeadSpaceX]

been playing it solidly since it's pre-order event (lvl 26 elin archer), it's great  cb was kind of meh, didn't get to keep anything so really didn't bother with it. now that you get to keep everything for launch, a lot more fun. combat system rocks, soloing bams (Big Ass Monsters) is edge of your seat kind of thing. one wrong move and you could be paste. animation details in everything, landscape details, skills, glyphs that modify skills, even basic attacks.

and no auto attack or auto target. pots have a 60 sec cd so you can't just gulp pots to stay alive everything relies on you knowing how to move, dodge and when to attack without leaving yourself open. huge world, variety, graphically beautiful and fun to play.

the downside is en masse and their westernization schemes...but might be able to live with that.

[xfreidax]

Anyone with K-Tera or J-Tera experience?

I'm looking at the endgame and right now, it looks like 6 dungeons, guild vs guild pvp and zone invasions? Is that it? Pretty sparse if you ask me.

[Soryon]

Been playing a bit of beta and I gotta say, its pretty fun. I have not decided if I am going to pre-order it or not yet since in my experience, when you jump on a game like this when it first comes out there are still a handful of kinds to work out, but meh... I will likely end up buying the game anyway.

The westernization is not quite as bad as I had expected with a few exceptions with certain armor schemes, but it appears you can get costumes so you dont have to see some of the rather ugly outfits.