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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2012, 10:30:47 AM »
to the members who already own the phone, do you all experienced crash?
or need to disconnect the power?

honestly, ive experience it once a while...need to disconnect batteries...

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2012, 07:47:08 AM »
I only have mine connected to the charger when the batteries needs charging ... other than that I don't connected it to the charger ... from what I have been told it shortens the battery life.  I usually charge it when it gives me the warning that the battery power is low ... or if it less than 50% and I know I'm gonna be using it alot the next day ... I'll plug it in.

Usually, if something is not working right shutting the phone totally down & turning it back on works at fixing any issues ... at lease for me.

My Droid is a Samsung Exhibit.  I charge it about every 3 to 3 days.


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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2012, 12:00:05 AM »
from what I have been told it shortens the battery life
sounds scary...well, from now on will connect to charger if needed

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2012, 12:49:17 AM »
leaving the charger attached doesn't shorten battery lifespan, well thats the case to newer phones with smart power management.

the phones with that feature automatically disables the charging and switches the power from the battery to the charger to keep itself powered, making the battery stand on idle and stay full. you could even disconnect the battery and the phone will still work.

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2012, 05:00:15 AM »
No, when you connect the charger it will start charging. It would be plain stupid design to have a phone that doesn't charge when you plug it in.

Charging on a partial discharge is bad for the battery, yes - you should try to always charge after a complete discharge or very low charge in order to preserve your battery's life. Once your phone is done charging, though, you don't have to disconnect the charger right away, as it will do what kitamesume described only in this case - put the battery on idle and run on AC power (even then, some phones simply internally disconnect from the charger and run on the battery - either case is fine). Disconnecting and reconnecting the charger normally causes the phone to attempt to charge again.

If this is what you meant, you should probably clarify that.

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2012, 09:47:24 PM »
i meant that the feature stops the charging phase when the battery is full...

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2012, 10:40:20 PM »
so there is no overcharge? im safe...
btw, is it worthed if i change the batt from 1650ma to 2000ma for batt longetivity?

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2012, 06:44:57 AM »
so there is no overcharge? im safe...
btw, is it worthed if i change the batt from 1650ma to 2000ma for batt longetivity?

For now just use the stock. Change it when your battery's is at the end of it's life. i.e. unless you are really, really pissed about it's low battery life or you can find a new battery for real cheap -__-

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2012, 10:09:52 AM »
unless you are really, really pissed about it's low battery life or you can find a new battery for real cheap -__-
well, fyi although this phone enable me to go online for almost 8 hours straight(i dunno if it should be linger than that or not), the problem remain the same...need charging... :'(...thats why im considering about the 2000ma batt...but, is there any casing/protective casing for the bulky phone(because when using 2000ma batt, the phone thickness changes...)

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2012, 01:44:48 PM »
That probably comes down to how much you value lightness and thinness vs. battery life. And perhaps whether or not there are protective cases, if you ever get one, for either version. Chances are there are cases for both thicknesses.

8 hours straight of online time is pretty damn good. I don't think batteries normally last that long. But of course, there's always room for improvement, for more battery life.

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2012, 08:33:39 AM »
okay another one...
how to change message ringtone(notification ringtone)?

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2012, 08:59:35 PM »
It should be in the Settings (the icon that looks like a gear) ... Under sound.


I just wish I knew how to turn the sound off only when I turn the phone on or off ... I really dislike the damn T-mobile jingle.


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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2012, 12:32:08 PM »
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how to change message ringtone(notification ringtone)?

my bad, incomplete question...okay, what i meant is how to change message ringtone (notification ringtone) to our own music (say i want it to be Saosin - Your not Alone)?

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2012, 08:57:46 AM »
Ohh ... I haven't done that ... since I'm such a noob with my droid ... ha ha ha


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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2012, 09:46:48 AM »
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how to change message ringtone(notification ringtone)?

my bad, incomplete question...okay, what i meant is how to change message ringtone (notification ringtone) to our own music (say i want it to be Saosin - Your not Alone)?
I'm not 100% sure it is the same on s2 as on galaxy nexus, but you should have a folder on your phone called ringtone, if you throw your song into that folder, you will be able to select it as a ringtone.


Charging on a partial discharge is bad for the battery
that is incorrect


you should try to always charge after a complete discharge or very low charge in order to preserve your battery's life.
That will give it the opposite, lithium takes damage by being fully discharged.

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2012, 11:48:26 PM »
There are a few flaws with the source. But first, let me start off with a disclaimer that by "complete discharge" I do not mean "0% remaining" - I mean when the phone shuts itself off due to low power. Completely discharging a battery past the threshold that phones and laptops set (about 3%) is much more damaging than partial discharge charging could ever be.

Anyway, let me continue here. First thing I noticed was the fact that they showed graphs for lithium polymer batteries for Figure 1. Lithium polymer and lithium ion batteries are very different technologies and work very differently.

If you look at Table 2, you will see that a 10% discharge will result in 4700 charge cycles while a 100% discharge will result in 500 cycles. If you do the math, the 10% discharge gives you 470 full cycles worth of battery charge. That does not seem very attractive. However, the 50% result giving 1500 cycles is interesting - that's 750 full cycles worth. Perhaps there is some merit there, and some discharge level that is best for the battery.

Anyway, from my understanding, the whole full discharge thing was a much bigger problem with nickel-metal hydride batteries. It had to do with sending a current through the battery while the chemical reaction had not completely proceeded in the operational direction, forcing the reaction to reverse early, resulting in some wear and tear. Lithium ion batteries are built differently and the backing technology is always improving, so the "memory effect" is probably not as prevalent anymore.

If you observe people with laptops, though, the ones that complain the most about their battery life being extremely short are those that plug in their laptops whenever they get the chance and use the battery when they don't. That should be saying something.

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2012, 10:50:56 AM »
Do you got any proof or sauce that your claim is correct?

If you observe people with laptops, though, the ones that complain the most about their battery life being extremely short are those that plug in their laptops whenever they get the chance and use the battery when they don't. That should be saying something.
Not really I got the opposite result, when I was observing my class.

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2012, 11:46:39 AM »
memory effect... seriously?

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/The-Truth-About-NiCd-Batteries/292
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What is this ”memory effect“ anyway?

”Memory effect“ is when your battery ”thinks“ that it is fully charged but it isn’t. So let’s say that is 70% charged but it ”thinks“ that it is 100% charged. Under this condition, when installed on its charger it will stop recharging, because it is thinking that it is already full. When you start using your gadget, it will last shorter, since it is only 70% charged – and thus the assumption that older NiCd batteries last less than brand new ones. Which is true, but that are ways of preventing the ”memory effect“ to occur.

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That’s why newer rechargeable battery technologies do not use Cadmium anymore (e.g., Nickel-Metal Hydride [NiMH], Lithium-Ion [Li-ion] and Lithium-Ion Polymer [Li-Pol]). Laptop computers, cell phones, cordless phones and motherboards found today on the market don’t use NiCd batteries anymore and you won’t have any kind of problem or ”memory effect“ if your electronic gadget uses a different battery technology from NiCd. Just to make sure, if you take a look at your battery you will find a sticker showing which battery technology it uses. If it isn’t NiCd, you won’t have the ”memory effect“ problem.

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Batteries not based on Cadmium do not suffer from ”memory effect“.
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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2012, 07:37:14 AM »
Fair enough, I stand corrected. I'll accept kita's source (too tired to think really).

Not really I got the opposite result, when I was observing my class.

That's really interesting. Perhaps the issue has more to do with the fact that their batteries are always being charged up to 100% and heated up in the process?

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S2
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2012, 09:59:20 AM »
Fair enough, I stand corrected. I'll accept kita's source (too tired to think really).

Not really I got the opposite result, when I was observing my class.

That's really interesting. Perhaps the issue has more to do with the fact that their batteries are always being charged up to 100% and heated up in the process?
A theory build on heat being the biggest cause of shorting amount of battery power are quite possible. I have had two HP pavilion, which both had habit of becoming a bit to hot, and the time it took for them to become useless on batteries was ridiculous (roughly a year if I remember correctly).   
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