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Ghost Love?
elvikun:
--- Quote from: Raylightsa3 on March 30, 2012, 02:17:32 AM ---My interpolation of what you said is our imagination taking physical form or projecting itself into a form of energy making these phenomena happen. but I could be wrong but this is how i perceive your power of suggestion
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As in when enough people believe in god, god will come to be? No.
That is not what I meant.
What I meant is that you can make yourself (even not on puprpose) believe you see something, even tho in fact, you did not. You will trully believe you saw it, but in fact, it was just your brain playing pranks on you.
It's similar to religious people who say the god talked to them directly. In some cases, I do believe they are not making it up, that they trully believe god speaks with them, yet it's not truth,it's just an illusion their brain is playing on them after so many year of ferocious faith and indoctrination.
For example, have you seen faithhealers? THAT is the power of suggestion. They make people believe in their bullshit SO much that they actually get a real stroke when the man touches them.
Raylightsa3:
--- Quote from: elvikun on March 30, 2012, 02:28:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: Raylightsa3 on March 30, 2012, 02:17:32 AM ---My interpolation of what you said is our imagination taking physical form or projecting itself into a form of energy making these phenomena happen. but I could be wrong but this is how i perceive your power of suggestion
--- End quote ---
As in when enough people believe in god, god will come to be? No.
That is not what I meant.
What I meant is that you can make yourself (even not on puprpose) believe you see something, even tho in fact, you did not. You will trully believe you saw it, but in fact, it was just your brain playing pranks on you.
It's similar to religious people who say the god talked to them directly. In some cases, I do believe they are not making it up, that they trully believe god speaks with them, yet it's not truth,it's just an illusion their brain is playing on them after so many year of ferocious faith and indoctrination.
For example, have you seen faithhealers? THAT is the power of suggestion. They make people believe in their bullshit SO much that they actually get a real stroke when the man touches them.
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yea I get ya but if its only an illusion it dosnt explain how things move themselfs even when others seen it besides me how can that just be power of suggestion cuz people see things all in different ways but if seeing the same thing by others it has to be more
megido-rev.M:
--- Quote from: Raylightsa3 on March 30, 2012, 02:25:35 AM ---if people think this way or that way thats fine with me just as long as they dont judge me or condemn me with it
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Some people might simply not care whatsoever. lol
--- Quote from: elvikun on March 30, 2012, 02:28:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: Raylightsa3 on March 30, 2012, 02:17:32 AM ---My interpolation of what you said is our imagination taking physical form or projecting itself into a form of energy making these phenomena happen. but I could be wrong but this is how i perceive your power of suggestion
--- End quote ---
As in when enough people believe in god, god will come to be? No.
That is not what I meant.
What I meant is that you can make yourself (even not on puprpose) believe you see something, even tho in fact, you did not. You will trully believe you saw it, but in fact, it was just your brain playing pranks on you.
It's similar to religious people who say the god talked to them directly. In some cases, I do believe they are not making it up, that they trully believe god speaks with them, yet it's not truth,it's just an illusion their brain is playing on them after so many year of ferocious faith and indoctrination.
For example, have you seen faithhealers? THAT is the power of suggestion. They make people believe in their bullshit SO much that they actually get a real stroke when the man touches them.
--- End quote ---
It is possible for people to convince or make sense of anything to themselves. In this case, it just takes lack of information plus limited scoping at but a single viewpoint, probably on top of memories whether twisted or not.
elvikun:
@Ray
No, not really, again, look at religion - many people claim to see the same thing, altough it's very clear there was nothing.
In this case, you have told your friends what is going on before inviting them to see it, I presume. And they believed you and later on, saw exactly what you described. Or maybe they just said so.
I believe that if you want to go on and prove something, you have to start by eliminating rational explanations. For one, you'd have to get someone who knows nothing about the matter and without warning them they should look out for something make them witness the "ghost" the same way you did. They will not see anything, and if something, it would be very different from what you saw.
This works the same way as crowd panic and similar events. Once you tell people what should they look for, believers will see it all around. Weird example - If you say that the suspicious man with a brown coat and red bag is a suicide terrorist, you will suddenly find out that people see tenths of men with bombs everywhere.
Or the most fitting example, in art gallery, abstract paintings - Someone in the room says " That kind of looks like a house. " and suddenly, most of people who heard him will see a house in the painting, even tho before they saw nothing even remotely fitting a house.
As for moving objects, I would really make double-sure you are not a sleepwalker.
Raylightsa3:
well i get you there you got a point
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