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Ghost Love?
Goldfrapp:
Stop doing drugs:P
metro.:
She's just there to tell you to stop having so much angst.
Meomix:
Dude you are going to need to post webcam evidence, too easy is it for someone to post a sprooked up story for attention.
1. Bakabt username on webcam
2. Overtime recording of room
Ixarku:
--- Quote from: elvikun on March 30, 2012, 02:28:55 AM ---What I meant is that you can make yourself (even not on puprpose) believe you see something, even tho in fact, you did not. You will trully believe you saw it, but in fact, it was just your brain playing pranks on you.
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Yeah, I think you summed it up pretty well in this and other posts. This is exactly why I'm skeptical about religion, alien encounters, ghosts, and anything else supernatural. People are all too ready to believe the wildest reason something could happen without first seriously considering all of the mundane reasons. For the ghost discussion, this is why I like seeing video evidence of objects moving by themselves. Even though that stuff can be faked, if you could somehow be sure that it isn't, it would be pretty compelling that something unusual is happening. UFO pictures & video, though, I don't trust at all, and probably won't ever until the day a spaceship lands on the White House lawn. It's way too easy for people to misinterpret a few lights in the sky.
And anyone remember the buzz around 'rods' a few years ago? That one made me laugh my ass off. Amateur filmmakers would film stuff with their handicams, and would pick up these strange elongated rods flying around on the video that weren't visible to the naked eye. It turned into 'OMG, it's some kind of unknown lifeform!" No, jackass, it's distortion / out-of-focus visual effects on insects buzzing around on-frame while you're filming.
So I think some supernatural things could be possible, but I'd have to personally experience something that leaves almost all doubt behind before I'd believe it's real. Even then, I'd still be skeptical of my own perceptions and would have to consider the circumstances carefully.
elvikun:
@Ixarku
Well, mind can be cruel.
It's always good to look at the extreme cases - There are people who believe they are dirty so much that they start skinning themselves alive to clean it up. Are they lying? I doubt that, you don't go around tearing your sking of with your bare hands just to make a hoax look more real. Yet there is not dirt anywhere, even tho they see and feel it.
In similar way, someone believing in god so fircely, that they start seeing and hearing him/her/it. Again, in some of the cases, I don't think they are lying. They really have meetings with god. In their mind.
So yes, your mind can make things which aren't there seem very much real.
In the ghost cases, the obvious hoaxes aside, it's no coincidence that people who see ghosts are almost exclusively people who even previously believed there is more in this world than meets the eye.
If I kept seeing a ghost like being, I would still continue with "There is no ghost" line of though, at least untill I would be able to discard all reasonable explanations and got a CT of my brain.
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