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Human mind into a computer
Saras:
--- Quote from: criver on April 01, 2012, 05:14:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: kitamesume on April 01, 2012, 07:28:34 AM ---actually i've been wondering about this for a while, though on a different point of view.
what if your mind becomes the I/O of a computer? you wouldn't need a mouse, keyboard nor touchscreen to use a computer.
whats more is that every task would be so precise that you wouldn't need to zoom in and click that damn tiny pixel.
on another note, what about piloting a droid through the internet? you'd be sleeping in a capsule forever and use the droid similar to avatar, replaceable to boot, and skin customizable! damn gonna be a smexy machine.
now onto the technicalities:
if they could make the interface between the mind and machine small enough to fit a sunglasses and add in a function of injecting images directly into your mind, similar to having hallucinations, and make the interface a wireless tool then you get whats similar to Mnemosyne's 4th arc.
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and if, and if... (watched to much movies?) :P
"But back to Ixarku's original fear:
If we take a step way from computers, and imagine that we hypothetically could replicate entire molecular structures. (Just copy atom for atom.)
If you then make a copy of yourself, which one is the "you"? The original or the copy?" - read Akumetsu seriously...(you could also read Gantz)
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Did this come up out of possibilities of teleportation, as it is a common problem cited in such scenarios? If so, I should probably remind you that transferring matter via quantum entanglement requires the destruction of the matter being transferred. You do not end up with two identical copies.
If you are referring to building something from scratch via the bottom-up approach. There would be no difference, both objects would be identical, neither of which would be more real than the other. There is nothing known to modern science witch would allow differentiation between the two bodies. An atom of carbon is just an atom of carbon, whether it's the atom in you or the one in that skyscraper. It carries no identification of where it was taken from.
Ixarku:
At some point, I will actually read this thread, think about it some more, and post a response to something. But I am worn the fuck out (another weekend of painting, yard work, and generally doing stuff around the house, yay!), so instead I am going to merely acknowledge that I am aware of this thread and/or approve its existence.
Goldfrapp:
First I thought of when i read this, was HAL 9000, from "A Space Odyssey.
I think that is what would happen if a human mind came into a computer;
After a while, you would get really bored, and the only thing you could do to have fun,
is to make pranks on the people who owns the computer.
It would start very innocent, but after a while you would do anything to drive the people on the
outside as insane as you are becoming.
And then you would do anything to kill them...
Nikkoru:
Some people have this impression that there will be some moral or cognitive dissonance with the innovation of some of the more science fictional technologies. I recall the beginning of Asimov's I, Robot anthology, with a white-bread suburban family getting their ontological hackles raised by the new Robo-nanny and labour unions being labour unions - the technology was banned on Earth until decades later where they're the benevolent rulers. We read Frankenstein complex stuff, which began with the eponymous novel and will remain in popular fiction until Judgement Day. Fear of objects becoming subjects, of breaking through the illusion of the soul as a metaphysical property stuck in unwholesome and squishy flesh assembled haphazardly in some woman's uterus. The usual result is something like Khaaaaaaannnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnn!, the Borg, T-1000's, or Mitt Romney. We assert that humanity is something special, and like every Shakespeare play, throwing the natural order out of commission can only lead to bad things.
The problem with that perspective is it ignores the observed evidence. We've been living in a science-fictional age for a generation or two now, with innovations happening faster than epochs of human history. You know what? We're adapting like a boss. There are concerns sure, but for the most part people are clambering for the next gadget with the new doodad attached. I believe this is an instinctual, primordial, lizard-brained response to our most basic evolutionary advantage. We use tools, we love tools, we're not sabre-tooth chump meat because we gots sharpened sticks and knew damn well which edge was the pointy one, we didn't freeze to death 'cause we received our merit badge in fire-craft. Every time technology gets made, and we see someone else use it to improve their condition, we want to replicate them.
Downloading your consciousness into digital form? It sounds strange, but so would an internet forum on a anime-based torrent site be to someone 40 years ago. That's because he or she haven't gone through the chain of steps required for such a thing to exists, not just technologically, but culturally. Assuming bio-digital trans-mutation is possible, by the time we get there these kinds of discussions will be mere trite academic arguments for philosophy students, the culture will have moved on. People who see the advantages in being raptured digitally will be selling their unneeded organs to get in the queue.
The same goes for bio-engineering, if we choose to go that route. Hell, otaku will be getting their children with candy coloured hair and unnaturally bright, large, and colourful eyes.
elvikun:
--- Quote from: Goldfrapp on April 01, 2012, 06:11:49 PM ---First I thought of when i read this, was HAL 9000, from "A Space Odyssey.
I think that is what would happen if a human mind came into a computer;
After a while, you would get really bored, and the only thing you could do to have fun,
is to make pranks on the people who owns the computer.
It would start very innocent, but after a while you would do anything to drive the people on the
outside as insane as you are becoming.
And then you would do anything to kill them...
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Are you saying that if transfers as such were possible, you would be actually selling those people as products to others?
I think the idea was to live on in digital form for your sake, not to be made into a kitchen helper robot.
@Nikkoru
*clap clap clap*
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