Think, or feel?

[apriuschan]

"The greatest danger to mankind is now mankind.
The mind of human beings has become too powerful and dangerous to be out of control. The thing (our minds) that helped our survival the most will be what destroys us if we do not get control of them soon."

Leading into this: "More than minds: The mind is the king of this world. Just about all institutions, schools, businesses, and governments promote and support the mind. This is all fine and good, as long as we know that we are more than our minds, that our minds are just a very small and temporary part of us."

What do you think of this? Rather, what do you feel from this?   I'm not trying to spout off any beliefs, I'm curious. These 'excerpts', are from

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http://www.truthcontest.com/

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I find it interesting to say the least, and it does make some good points. There's one part of me that feels "This is just a nonsensical pile of...nonsense." But the other welcomes some of the thoughts put into it.

[Soryon]

Your post lost me (blame it on the al al al alcohol) but it seems like you are talking about reacting to feel or think. Think I would assuming thinking what you are told.


Before I elaborate, I want you to really clarify just wtf it is you are talking about.

[AceHigh]

Whenever you feel something, that is also a process of the mind, so mind is everything that makes us who we are.

Looks to me like some people are trying to make up some pseudo-philosophical quotes that will make the idiots feel good about themselves.

[rkruger]

The greatest danger to mankind is now mankind.

"now"? I thought that this had been the case since the beginning of mankind.

I also have no idea what you are talking about. Are you trying to suppress critical thinking?

[1pwn3djo0h]

You know what the problem with searching for the "truth" is? The answers. Why? Because you cannot find them. No matter how much you ask for other people's opinions, you just won't find the REAL TRUTH. All you'll ever find is your self-serving "truth" regarding "truth," but that is if you're lucky. If you're not, then you will only be back to square one; and end up having even MORE questions that most cannot be answered at all.

Point here is, no matter how much the Christians or any religions preach, no matter how much Philosophy books you read, you can never find the real truth; for "we" are only offered half truths that may serve as roots for all our "nothing but conjectures." There's no real fact. Everything's an opinion. Reality is distorted, it's too malleable.

I hope I made sense, I don't really wanna write some tl;dr, so . . . I'm giving you the gist of the gist.

And just to add, always remember this quote from a favorite author of mine . . .
"To really ask is to open the door to the whirlwind."

[logos]

Looks to me like some people are trying to make up some pseudo-philosophical quotes that will make the idiots feel good about themselves.

I mostly agree with this, especially since I think it's all wrong anyways...

First off: Mankind has always and will always be the greatest danger to mankind (imo cuz of the almost complete lack of empathy is almost everyone, but I digress)

Second: Calling the human mind "too powerful and dangerous" is like saying "this computer's cpu is so fast that its dangerous". Sure, that power could be put to dangerous uses, but the users should be judged, not the tool.  Which would be the "feel" shit they're talking about.  Humans feelings are almost always what govern the usage of our minds, which would imply that human's feelings are too powerful and dangerous opposed to the mind.

Third: Training your mind is a much more substantiatable (ha firefox doesn't recognize this as being a real word) method than "training your feelings" people arent gonna go to college to attain emotional mastery, not only does that sound dumb, but where would you even start? Monk training? So sure keep in mind that you're capable of more than just thinking, but as Ace stated, every process in the human body is run from those thoughts that "are just a very small and temporary part of us"

I also find that site lol, thinking about shit you dont need to bother thinking about is cool and all, but how bout putting your minds to more realistic goals? you know like something that people might actually benefit from? Philosophy is probably the most worthless human invention, right next to religion(or the same thing depending on how you look at it)

[Saras]

You know what the problem with searching for the "truth" is? The answers. Why? Because you cannot find them. No matter how much you ask for other people's opinions, you just won't find the REAL TRUTH. All you'll ever find is your self-serving "truth" regarding "truth," but that is if you're lucky. If you're not, then you will only be back to square one; and end up having even MORE questions that most cannot be answered at all.

Point here is, no matter how much the Christians or any religions preach, no matter how much Philosophy books you read, you can never find the real truth; for "we" are only offered half truths that may serve as roots for all our "nothing but conjectures." There's no real fact. Everything's an opinion. Reality is distorted, it's too malleable.

I hope I made sense, I don't really wanna write some tl;dr, so . . . I'm giving you the gist of the gist.

And just to add, always remember this quote from a favorite author of mine . . .
"To really ask is to open the door to the whirlwind."

Prove me that 1+1 =/= 2 in a real number system.

[1pwn3djo0h]

You know what the problem with searching for the "truth" is? The answers. Why? Because you cannot find them. No matter how much you ask for other people's opinions, you just won't find the REAL TRUTH. All you'll ever find is your self-serving "truth" regarding "truth," but that is if you're lucky. If you're not, then you will only be back to square one; and end up having even MORE questions that most cannot be answered at all.

Point here is, no matter how much the Christians or any religions preach, no matter how much Philosophy books you read, you can never find the real truth; for "we" are only offered half truths that may serve as roots for all our "nothing but conjectures." There's no real fact. Everything's an opinion. Reality is distorted, it's too malleable.

I hope I made sense, I don't really wanna write some tl;dr, so . . . I'm giving you the gist of the gist.

And just to add, always remember this quote from a favorite author of mine . . .
"To really ask is to open the door to the whirlwind."

Prove me that 1+1 =/= 2 in a real number system.

I can't, that's why I said what I said. How sure are all of us that two is two? One is one and so on and so fort. Our existence hasn't been proven anyway, despite whatever someone's "Cogito ergo sum" blabber says; well I do agree with that, but maybe my mind's just playin' tricks on me. LOL.
Plus, don't just go believin' what I say. After all, just like what I was implying before, "There is no absolute truth," tho "There's always an exception to every rule." Is this even credible? Real? I don't know.
 
I am a bit of a skeptic here.

[AceHigh]

So you don't trust your perception then.

[elvikun]

Once words like "the ultimate truth" and "the real truth" are used, something is about to get very chaotic.
If you overdo it, you'll come to conclusions like "the only way to prove you are alive and exist is to die".
But I'm sure we all agree that you all exist just in my mind.

But seriously, to the OP, I'm not so sure what are you suggesting. Discontinue education to make mids of the next generations less dangerous?

And yeah, Humankind is the worst enemy of humankind, all other living things, the nature itself, the planet itself and potentially the whole solar system. Always was. It's just getting a bit more evident over the time.

[Saras]

You know what the problem with searching for the "truth" is? The answers. Why? Because you cannot find them. No matter how much you ask for other people's opinions, you just won't find the REAL TRUTH. All you'll ever find is your self-serving "truth" regarding "truth," but that is if you're lucky. If you're not, then you will only be back to square one; and end up having even MORE questions that most cannot be answered at all.

Point here is, no matter how much the Christians or any religions preach, no matter how much Philosophy books you read, you can never find the real truth; for "we" are only offered half truths that may serve as roots for all our "nothing but conjectures." There's no real fact. Everything's an opinion. Reality is distorted, it's too malleable.

I hope I made sense, I don't really wanna write some tl;dr, so . . . I'm giving you the gist of the gist.

And just to add, always remember this quote from a favorite author of mine . . .
"To really ask is to open the door to the whirlwind."

Prove me that 1+1 =/= 2 in a real number system.

I can't, that's why I said what I said. How sure are all of us that two is two? One is one and so on and so fort. Our existence hasn't been proven anyway, despite whatever someone's "Cogito ergo sum" blabber says; well I do agree with that, but maybe my mind's just playin' tricks on me. LOL.
Plus, don't just go believin' what I say. After all, just like what I was implying before, "There is no absolute truth," tho "There's always an exception to every rule." Is this even credible? Real? I don't know.
 
I am a bit of a skeptic here.

wat

[Pharismo]

Isn't human the worst virus on/for this planet at the right moment?

[1pwn3djo0h]

So you don't trust your perception then.

Yea, I sort of don't. Not just mine, but everbody else's. It's just that, I am "required" to take in those self-serving opinions to be able to "live." To keep my sanity.

Obviously, I need to stop blabbering stuffs here. It appears that others can't quite swallow what I was trying to say, LOL.

And yea, this is going to be chaotic, as elvikun said. Discussions about "Truth" is one of those topics that doesn't bear fruit nor satiate the debaters. It only gives birth to more skepticism and pessimism.

[AceHigh]

Oh, I am fully aware of what your are trying to say. However I have seen this before, just like a hypochondriac is staring at his arm for an hour trying to find something wrong with it, likewise you are digging your mind convincing yourself of some deeper reality and meta-truths.

However it is completely counter-productive, since by attempting to understand something that isn't there will only lead to ludicrous babble and conspiracy theories based on wishful thinking. Instead, you better use your brain's processing power to strive towards real enlightenment through gathering of knowledge and understanding of actual real things and facts.

[Meandola]

What the hell are you all talking about, you're all just fictional characters that my mind made up and this is all just a dream.

[apriuschan]

Philosophy is probably the most worthless human invention, right next to religion(or the same thing depending on how you look at it)

I like everything else you've said, to be honest. But I don't feel that Religion or philosophy are worthless. Don't get me wrong; I'm not religious at all and I don't care much for 'organized' religion. There's really nothing wrong about trying to give positive (usually) messages like loving your neighbor but not his wife, yadda yadda.

But seriously, to the OP, I'm not so sure what are you suggesting. Discontinue education to make mids of the next generations less dangerous?

I'm not trying to suggest anything. I'd hate to say it, but I was super soul-searchy-tired last night this morning, and for whatever reason I said "I should post something silly on BBTs forum!".Education is important,even if a lot of things are superfluous.

[Ixarku]

What the hell are you all talking about, you're all just fictional characters that my mind made up and this is all just a dream.

Exactly.  You all exist only as long as I am consciously aware of you.

[megido-rev.M]

"The greatest danger to mankind is now mankind [natural disasters and disease].
The mind of human beings has become too powerful and dangerous to be out of control. The thing (our minds) that helped our survival the most will be what destroys us if we do not get control of them soon. "

Whoever made this statement obviously has forgotten what it feels like to be smacked.

Leading into this: "More than minds: The mind is the king of this world. Just about all institutions, schools, businesses, and governments promote and support the mind. This is all fine and good, as long as we know that we are more than our minds, that our minds are just a very small and temporary part of us."

Because there are things in this world that are both interesting and not require mental cognition. Oh wait.

I find it interesting to say the least, and it does make some good points. There's one part of me that feels "This is just a nonsensical pile of...nonsense." But the other welcomes some of the thoughts put into it.

It's useless sub-par nonsensical pseudo-existentialism crap, so the point itself is less than nothing.

And yea, this is going to be chaotic, as elvikun said. Discussions about "Truth" is one of those topics that doesn't bear fruit nor satiate the debaters. It only gives birth to more skepticism and pessimism.

Pessimism, indeed. Truth, in it's clearest form, is as simple as a "yes" or "no" to a simple statement, not some random person's life-story or the mental diarrhea of speculation posed as an 'answer' to someone's unstructured curiosity.

I like everything else you've said, to be honest. But I don't feel that Religion or philosophy are worthless. Don't get me wrong; I'm not religious at all and I don't care much for 'organized' religion. There's really nothing wrong about trying to give positive (usually) messages like loving your neighbor but not his wife, yadda yadda.

Religion is technically useless if not completely deprecated.
Philosophy, if by the literal meaning coming from the word's history, is a virtue. But as field it's generally a utter pain.

[1pwn3djo0h]

However it is completely counter-productive, since by attempting to understand something that isn't there will only lead to ludicrous babble and conspiracy theories based on wishful thinking. Instead, you better use your brain's processing power to strive towards real enlightenment through gathering of knowledge and understanding of actual real things and facts.

Absolutely it is. I can't agree more. That's why, like what I said before, I try to imbibe whatever I can in order to "live" my life. Despite the inexistence of "real" knowledge, I am trying to make do with what I have. Like if you're a father providing for 12 children, then you just really have to make ends meet; sleep with your legs against your chest while the blanket's short. I'm getting by, so I guess there's no problem.

What the hell are you all talking about, you're all just fictional characters that my mind made up and this is all just a dream.

Exactly.  You all exist only as long as I am consciously aware of you.

Hahaha! Lulz.

[demon-brolly]

I feel that the mind has unlimited potential and if used properly most our troubles could've been solved opinions aside. Though with most thing when you progress in one area something most suffer which happened to be how we carry our self in the past.