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Offline wolfking619

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« on: April 09, 2012, 08:13:44 PM »
does anyone know if you can still stop the encrypting of the program truecrypt cause it will take literally 5-6days to crypt my second hard drive.

i know this isn't a forum for this kind of stuff but yeah i actually hoped someone could help me out

hope to hear from you soon

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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2012, 02:00:11 AM »
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Um, sorry.  Can't help you.  I usually truecrypt manageable volume sizes, like 5 or 15 GB for data that needs to be encrypted.  Sounds like you attempted an entire 2 TB drive or somesuch?


Did you attempt to encrypt an entire drive without any data on it?  Or, is there data on the drive that would be endangered?  If I was attempting to encrypt an entire, empty drive, I'd probably kill the process with task manager or something and then reformat the drive and try again.

If I had critical data on the drive, I'd be much less tempted.  Stopping something like truecrypt in the middle of its procedure is begging for very serious trouble ... even if the files are "safe," they may be in (partially) in encrypted format and ,,,well, doesn't sound good.

It sucks to wait two days, but might be your best option and call it a Learning Experience.  On the bright side, you have two days to google to your heart's content on all the vagaries and esoterica of truecrypt, one of which may well be a Stop option.  At that point you'll be a boss on it and might be kind enough to post back on it ..?

I mean, I sure would like to see how the story ends for my own selfish knowledge.  ;)
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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 02:34:34 AM »
Man what were you thinking when you decided to encrypt your entire hard drive filled with data?
Didn't you at least try it out on smaller partitions or even a virtual hard drive?
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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2012, 04:31:49 AM »
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You appear to be in uncharted waters.  Let us know how that works out for you ...  ;) ;D

Um, sorry.  Can't help you.  I usually truecrypt manageable volume sizes, like 5 or 15 GB for data that needs to be encrypted.  Sounds like you attempted an entire 2 TB drive or somesuch?


Did you attempt to encrypt an entire drive without any data on it?  Or, is there data on the drive that would be endangered?  If I was attempting to encrypt an entire, empty drive, I'd probably kill the process with task manager or something and then reformat the drive and try again.

If I had critical data on the drive, I'd be much less tempted.  Stopping something like truecrypt in the middle of its procedure is begging for very serious trouble ... even if the files are "safe," they may be in (partially) in encrypted format and ,,,well, doesn't sound good.

It sucks to wait two days, but might be your best option and call it a Learning Experience.  On the bright side, you have two days to google to your heart's content on all the vagaries and esoterica of truecrypt, one of which may well be a Stop option.  At that point you'll be a boss on it and might be kind enough to post back on it ..?

I mean, I sure would like to see how the story ends for my own selfish knowledge.  ;)


yeah it's about 2 TB exactly and well the time it takes is quite long
and yes all the anime i downloaded from bakabt is on this harddrive.

and yes i tried smaller porpotions at first like 100 gig did just take 1 hour but on my second drive it takes longer i guess.
well if it's like this i guess i just have to wait if i read wel in the comments.
so yeah just wait till my anime get's back to me xD

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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 05:47:18 AM »
What was the point of encrypting your ENTIRE harddrive?

I'm gunna leave you anyway.

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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 11:11:02 AM »
What was the point of encrypting your ENTIRE harddrive?
Well, there's probably this little secret hidden folder labeled "Gundam" which in fact houses all the morally questionable media content.

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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 02:30:41 PM »
Did you create a volume that you are sending the encrypted data to?  If so you can most likely just kill the process with the possible result in corrupting the volume.  Delete the volume and start over with a thought out plan one what you really want to do.

Better plan would to create the volume first and to add small batches of file to be encrypted over a period of time.
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Looking over the documentations some more - It looks like you picked the option to encrypt the partition/drive.  I would hazard to guess that your going to have to let it finish if you do not what to loose your data.  Its going to take some time for it to go through several TB of data.  I had a system do some Hash checks on 4 TB of files and it took about a week for it process it.  Go outside and enjoy the sun this week.

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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2012, 02:37:58 PM »
Corporate secrets, financial info, government leaks, illegal research/experiments, human trafficking info and child porn.

Those are things worth encrypting. I wonder what you filled your whole hard drive with that is worth encrypting.  ;D
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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2012, 02:38:59 PM »
edit: lol i didn't notice that Ace already answered my question...

question, why do you guys encrypt your files anyway? does it save you from viruses? does people hack you like on a daily basis? do you have a multi-million dollar blueprint on your harddisk or something?

i don't see the reason of encrypting it if its just a regular home PC >,>
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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2012, 02:40:42 PM »
CP... probably CP  :D

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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2012, 02:54:58 PM »
The above is probably the only reason why I would encrypt mine.
I have questionable stuff just lying around my desktop but no one seems to bother to even go through.
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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2012, 02:59:08 PM »
Also, Lolicon is illegal in US, no?
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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2012, 03:15:57 PM »
=/ if they were that disturbing you would've bought a dedicated harddisk thats usually unplugged and hidden on top of the encryption, if you were suspected in the beginning then if they see an encrypted harddrive then you're just inviting more suspicions.

best way to hide stuff like this is to isolate them from the world, i.e. both systematically and physically hiding them. like toss the files on an external harddrive then hide the harddrive inside a book, similar to hollow book gun cases. if anyone asks whats the book for answer its a harddisk storage, since paper is a good cushion and all.

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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2012, 03:25:03 PM »
Actually there was a court case already where police couldn't access the evidence because of truecrypt. Know what happened? The accused was ordered by the court to give the password or else be punished for not cooperating with the law. If I remember he told them that he forgot the password, something they didn't believe.

So yeah, so much for that. When you really need truecrypt to hold your secrets, it becomes "an obstruction for investigation" and you get punished regardless.
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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2012, 03:58:46 PM »
Yeah there was a case like that, in that situation I'd rather go to jail than giving up the password.
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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2012, 04:33:04 PM »
Umm, what exactly is this treucrypt and crypt stuff? Sry for being dumb.

Another thing, if this 'truecrypt'/'crypt' stuff is standard won't a pro be able to decrypt it and get all the data regardless of being password-protected or not (though I still don't believe any of the password protected files are fully safe to begin with. I am sure google know's all my passwords. >__<)

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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2012, 05:15:57 PM »
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Umm, what exactly is this treucrypt and crypt stuff? Sry for being dumb.

Truecrypt.

This is one of the "uncrackable" utilities at this point in time, if you use it correctly.  I highly recommend it for a lot of reasons; it's a very well thought out and useful software.

For example, I like that I can create a 4.5 GB encrypted volume (or sets of 700 MB or 2.3 GB volumes, etc.), and once it's filled I can burn entire volume(s) to (RW-)DVD ... which can then be read on Windows, Mac or linux when needed but are never actually on a hard drive.  Very easy to wreck a DVD with any handy metal object (such as the edge of a coin or a paperclip that happens to be in its case) and nobody can prove what condition the DVD was in.  Because it's encrypted, even data recovery experts can't unencrypt what is recovered because the hash check is destroyed beyond reconstruction.  No password will help, even if there is a court order to provide it ... thus, no worries about obstruction charges.


As far as law enforcement in the U.S. goes, there are differing circumstances.

First, there is state-by-state.  Each police authority in each state has different rules and laws they have to abide by and enforce, so lolicon in one state is not necessarily lolicon in another.  Even within each state there are differences.  If you are picked up by a County Sheriff, he has different jurisdiction over you and your possessions than the State Police.

Child porn is such an incendiary topic that the laws on it are many and very confusing.  In some places, even drawings and artwork depicting it are considered to be the same as actual pictures of physical acts.  In some cases, even artworks depicting any child nudity are considered child porn ... and thus, the reason that one should be very careful with lolicon/shotacon materials in the U.S.  You never know which jurisdiction(s) you may be in and what their exact laws are ... laws which get very flexible and specious interpretation depending upon the individual police officers/court system involved.  Even normal pr0nz can get you in serious trouble if you get caught up in a jurisdiction with ,,,creative, obscenity laws.

Then there is the Federal branch for the entire U.S., which comes into play if something you are involved in crosses jurisdictions between different States.  And, they do stretch the rules for their convenience if somebody thinks there is something particularly interesting about you.

Generally, a court can order you to provide access to your computer(s) & hard drives.  This does not always mean you have to provide the password itself; there are some actual restrictions about making someone provide an actual password ... but refusing access to encrypted data can be viewed as obstruction.

What works in your favor is that the police have to then provide concrete evidence that they have a critical need to access that data, such as a court-issued warrant.  But, by encrypting, it's not just in the open where it can be "accidentally" seen.  Slows down and prevents 'fishing expeditions' and effectively throws up a firewall to force the issue of your 4th Amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure.


But, back to wolfking619 - sorry I couldn't help, and sorry I'm laughing so hard.  Nothing personal ... but that's a funny story, bro.  ;)  ;D  Fortunately, it seems that just a little bit of patience will solve it, and you have some experience now for more appropriate strategy in the future.
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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2012, 07:43:27 PM »
actually the truth is my whole family is against anime and well if they would find it there going to take my pc again and i don't like that idea

they come in my room like once a week and if they would find it they would take my pc and delete all of the anime they could easily find so.

i thought about it and wanted to use truecrypt

well going to wait anyways the wait time is worth more then trouble :P

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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2012, 07:46:22 PM »
Sounds like you have a bigger problem with your family, than with truecrypt.
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Re: truecrypt
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2012, 08:10:53 PM »
Yes. I can see nothing less suspicious than 2TB of encrypted data on your sons computer, that reputedly has hobbies you are very much against.