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AceHigh:
Ever seen a female with her hormones raging? Ugh... they can be as bad as guys in that regard and with the whole cultural gender equality there is nothing in my country stopping them from expressing it. If I wanted to have a normal conversation with a girl back in my teen days and she was one horny fuck, it really made her uninteresting. Thus I usually got along with the girls who acted like guys... eh... like normal human beings.

Also since I see sex as a good past time and nothing more "mysterious" than that, I don't consider virginity to be anything special at all. Hell, I would remove the word from the dictionary if I could, for some reason people make a deal out of it.

Edit: for the record I am 25, not a virgin, had a relationship, had several partners.

rostheferret:
23/m/no

When I lost mine, no. I was thankful to find someone I cared about and knew I could explore that side of myself with; that I could clumsily fool around with and who would clumsily fool around back, both of us not having the foggiest idea on what to do other than knowing I wanted to put my penis somewhere. As I got a little older and entered my late teens, it coloured my opinion of them if they had a lot of sexual partners (much less so now), but wanting to wait was something I respected. Now I'm back to looking at you funny if I discover you're still a virgin. If you're my age and are still waiting for the "special person," there's something wrong with you. I'm not saying be a slut, but if you haven't been in a serious relationship by now, well either you have impossible standards or need to get out more. Virginity is progressively less of a good thing post-18; it's never magical, it's always shit because you don't know what you're doing and I don't particularly want to go through the virgin-stage once again; have to essentially teach someone else how to not be lousy in bed, I've been there and done that. I've paid my dues.

Do I ever imagine what other people would be like in bed - because I'm assuming at my age you ain't so innocent unless corrected - ? Yes, if I find them physically attractive (or a cruel friend implants images in my head). It's called male fantasy and I'm pretty sure the porn industry wouldn't be so prevalent if most of us didn't do it. Fantasize away, just don't let yourself get too caught up in public and don't let it become the dominant thought (this will get easier with time). She might be the most fun and fascinating person and you'll miss out (I don't think of friends in this way at all; people call it the 'friend zone' for a reason, because anything sexual with a friend instantly becomes weird). And if you don't know her that well, who knows, she might be flirting with you and you're too busy wondering what she looks like without her top on to notice.

I think the trick here is to get to know more women, and not in a sexual context. The gender divide in youth dissipates with age; friends are friends, what the hell does it matter whether they have a penis?


--- Quote from: AceHigh on April 10, 2012, 11:19:08 AM ---Also since I see sex as a good past time and nothing more "mysterious" than that.
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This.

elvikun:
Let me start with *facepalm* ok... no, actually, wait... *faceplam* Oh. Good now. To the topic calmly.

First off the "I had sex. It was wonderfull" and "I'm not a virgin anymore" is about as reliable as Fox news talking about geography, especially when "teens" say it. At some point it became terribly cool/uncool to be and to not be virgin, lies rushed in fast, because noone wants to be uncool, right?

Secondly, if someone is sexy, I don't see how believing they had sex makes them nicer or on the other hand, not having sex makes them unattractive. If someone is hot, they are hot. Period. Isn't it more like "They're having sex and damn, not with me" if anything? I think everyone imagines at least a little bit, but I didn't figure it connects to virginity.

And for the third... Loosing virginity does change you? How? Egobooster perhaps. But why? At the time you lost virginity, you more than likely sucked like hell if you're male and if you're female, you're left with pretty mixed feelings and thankfully for the male counterpart, with nothing to compare it to.
You can't even say it makes you 20% cooler, because it doesn't.  Even tho, if you go with the wave or stress yourself over virginity, I guess it can make you feel a lot better and relieved.

I mean, for crying out loud, this isn't 14th century, virginity is irrelevant and sex is part of life just as much as using car.

This myth about life before and after virginity, the great cataclysmic change that comes with it made many young people into pathethic beings. I used to know one such... affected guy. Forcefully trying to prove to everyone that he "fucked X hard, YEEEAAAW" because he obviously couldn't feel male enough if anyone though he is a virgin (Enjoyble thing is that even now, 6 years later I still think the closest he ever got to girl was being in the same room as one). On the other hand, you have those girls going "I'm 15 and I'm STILL a virgin, I much be so ugly, cry, cry, cry, depression, depression".
Will people in general ever get wiser? Doubt it.

Right. 23 / f / no.
Just a reminder. I'm not angry. I'm  always talking like that beofre someone slaps me with "chill" hehe.

kadatherion:

--- Quote from: elvikun on April 10, 2012, 12:24:25 PM ---if you're female, you're left with pretty mixed feelings and thankfully for the male counterpart, with nothing to compare it to.

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And this is why as a male it is wise to kill and bury in your garden the partners you had for your first experiences. Don't let them have a chance for comparisons until you at least learn to aim. Learning to... urrr... be zen helps too. Don't give them the chance to tittle-tattle with their friends, or the whole crop could wither away!
My first sexual partner is a living testimony of my clumsiness back then. And I can't exactly... err... give her an update. Well, theoretically I could, but she really didn't age that well... (as in, the body aged too much, the mind didn't age, like, at all... thanks Eternal Love for existing only in cartoons and dumbass movies, thanks!)

Anyway, yup, I do look at women differently whether they say they are virgins or not. Usually, if they say they are, I call the whitecoats from the nearest nuthouse or the clowns from the nearest circus, depending if they are virgins because an invisible friend from the heavens told them to stay so or because they have three eyes, one breast and two beards.

When I was in my early teens, in the middle of the hormones storm, I'd probably have hit even a hole in the wall (might be the reason I loved Pink Floyd?), so no, I guess I wasn't really discriminating in my fantasies. If anything, I was already suffering from the typically male opposite fetish: if they are virgins they're hotter because I don't have to be compared to anyone, so even if I suck I'll get away with it they are pure and pristine like princesses and so will be our love. Then again, I lost my virginity (lost... not that I would like to have it back... and I'm in that half of the human species that doesn't even bleed) at around 15 (I don't even remember exactly how old I was... so much for the life turning value) so who knows how it would have been if I kept going at it for a while... I could have become famous as the man with the strongest right arm and skinnier left arm in the world, for instance.
Now that I'm older I guess the fetishist appeal is that I am a man, they are objects I own and I don't like second-hand products a younger, inexperienced girl looks sweet and sparks a bit of pedobear fatherly instincts. Yeah, right, you know, whatever doesn't get you found guilty in court, I guess...

What really is interesting is if and when you look at a woman differently whether she already had sex with you or not. Especially when she remembers it and you don't. But that's another story...

Oh, right. 29 (since last year, and it will remain 29 FOOORRRRREVER!)/male (but I find it funny to dress as a woman, and I pull it off rather nicely. Does it count?)/I'm still innocent at heart. My lawyers ensure so.

metro.:
I feel like I described this topic very poorly, and have come across is a light that I didn't mean to.

Nevertheless, it is interesting, so carry on.

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