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Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« on: April 10, 2012, 09:30:18 AM »
A lot of us like to use dvd players and LCD/LED tv's to watch anime (because iets just so much more leetsauce)  ;D

Now with the new 10 bit anime we are running in to pix-elation problems when we convert to .avi and .mp4 and using it with a USB drive in the LCD, and also loosing the "pretty" subs that go with it.

Now here is a few steps to get past these problems.

*First of - converting 10 bit anime from .mkv to .avi without pix-elation happening (example green blotches and square's all over)

1) Use "Any Video Converter" to convert to .avi as this is the only program so far that can successfully convert 10 bit anime without pix-elation.

*Remember to use the info you get from the uploaders torrent page on "BakaBT" 8) to get the correct "Video bit rate" and "voice bit rate" and also use the x264 codec.

(***STEP 2 is OPTIONAL***)only if you want the nice subs.

2)Getting back your "pretty" Subtitles  ;)
*We need to remove "Any Video Converter's" soft subs feature since they suck and throw your screen full of numbers and weird text.
Here are the steps-
1-Open C:\Program Files\Any Video Converter (64bit* is Open C:\Program Files (x86)\Any Video Converter)

2-Do a search for "mplayer"

3-remove the "subfont.tff" file. (This will block AVC from converting to .avi WITH the subtitles)

4-Install a program called "Auto Gordian Knot" (This will help to get back your "pretty" subtitles)

5-After you converted to .avi with any video converter open up "Auto Gordian Knot"

6-Now we need to download the subtitles or .ass .ssa .srt files. ( the best site I found is http://kitsunekko.net )

7-now rename the subtitle file to .ssa since Auto Gordian Knot works with this file extention.
if you cant change the file extention follow these steps....Open up any folder>press ALT>go to TOOLS>FOLDER OPTIONS>VIEW TAB>and untick "Hide extentions for known file types" then click on the subtitles file and press F2 now you should be able to change the extention.

8-In "Auto Gordian Knot" open up the episode that you just converted to .avi in the Input area, press Ctrl F8 and a subtitle option will open, now add the subtitle (.ssa) file in that area, and next choose your output location. Tick the "Target quality" and set to 100% now click add job and then start.

And PRESTO after a not so short  :P process you have a 10 bit .avi with "pretty" subtitles hardsubbed onto the .avi ready to be played on your LCD/LED tv and dvd player or XBOX and PS3.

Sorry for the long rant but if your like me that love anime to much and enjoy it on tv this is a good solution to your problems  ;D


« Last Edit: April 10, 2012, 09:35:15 AM by Necro89 »

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2012, 11:02:53 AM »
So shouldn't this go into Tech sect?
And man your guide is a little too... how do I put this, well quality wise, I wouldn't do this.
Here are some points that you should think about:
1. It ain't 10-bit anymore after the conversion process.
2. If you want to keep the pretty subtitles, mind as well just extract them out from the mkv container and hardcode them into the video.

Oh well why do I even bother, not everyone likes doing things the manual and hard way, this is indeed much simpler for those who just want to get it done.
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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 11:58:38 AM »
Method two.

Step One: Plug your computer into your TV.
Step Two: There is no step two.

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2012, 12:38:27 PM »
True you can just extract them but most people dont want to install mkvtool since iets not a very user friendly program, and my tv is faaaaaar away from my pc  ;D

And yes its not 10 bit anymore but at least it keeps a whole lot of quality without going all green and pixelated on you.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2012, 12:40:16 PM by Necro89 »

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 12:39:46 PM »
actually, theres a much more simpler way of watching videos without buying extra players, and doing extra chores... just g.dd.mn watch it on your computer dang it! whats your computer for anyway!?

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 12:47:00 PM »
Never been a big fan of watching anime on the pc ;)

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 02:36:24 PM »
o.o i liked watching anime on my 21.5" monitor since i could watch it up close while on my comfy chair and theres no better surround sound than a pair of headphones. not to mention the fact that monitors have pretty much more picture quality than a TV screen, of course theres exceptions.

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2012, 04:29:31 PM »
Buy an HDMI cable and stream it to your TV. Almost all TV's nowadays have HDMI port's so do most if not all PC's. 

I think that's the most easiest solution. 

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2012, 06:04:56 PM »
Method two.

Step One: Plug your computer into your TV.
Step Two: There is no step two.
I like this option better. Specially with the past few years with new video cards coming with HDMI capabilities.


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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2012, 12:56:38 AM »
Like the others, the first thing that comes to mind is get a bigger screen, or connect the computer to the TV. I generally no longer find it worth the trouble to reconvert video files simply to play them back on the conventional TV/player.

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2012, 09:14:30 AM »
I have a perfectly good ION box, running OpenELEC, that needs only a remote to operate it, takes very little power and can run for weeks. I sure as hell ain't gonna shell out cash to build a new, power-hungry Windows box just because someone dug out an obscure profile with no hardware support, that isn't even used in production.
And I'm definitely not going to run cables across my whole house.

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2012, 09:45:21 AM »
You know an ION box is basically just a PC right?

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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2012, 10:49:30 AM »
You know an ION box is basically just a PC right?
And you know that Hi10 is not hardware-supported by any GPU and the Atom CPU itself is not enough to decode even 720p?

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2012, 01:48:51 PM »
Whoever even decides to go ION to watch Anime is basically just shooting themselves in the foot.
Well that is unless you can't be bothered much with resolution and max out at 720p and again no 10-bit.
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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2012, 01:57:59 PM »
You know an ION box is basically just a PC right?
And you know that Hi10 is not hardware-supported by any GPU and the Atom CPU itself is not enough to decode even 720p?

i don't get you, first you say you're using one to play them vids, now you're saying it sucks? wouldn't that mean your decision sucked?

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2012, 03:25:27 PM »
Whoever even decides to go ION to watch Anime is basically just shooting themselves in the foot.
Well that is unless you can't be bothered much with resolution and max out at 720p and again no 10-bit.
Huh? ION can perfectly play 1080p content, wtf are you smoking?

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i don't get you, first you say you're using one to play them vids, now you're saying it sucks? wouldn't that mean your decision sucked?
You do know the difference between GPU and CPU, eh? The thing about ION is that it relies on the GPU (GF9400) for HD playback. However, since the GPU does not support 10-bit content, you're screwed, because the CPU alone isn't up to the task.
As for my decision - I was happy when I got it and I am still happy now. I'll just have to convert the 10-bit stuff.

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2012, 05:10:24 PM »
^ Well, this topic is about playing back 10-bit stuff.

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2012, 05:20:03 PM »
^ Well, this topic is about playing back 10-bit stuff.

Yes, but now we're on the argument of "the ION box is awesome unless you want to watch 10bit stuff," which was the point of the thread. Essentially going right back to "the ION box is useless." and "You're better off getting a better HTPC."

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2012, 05:21:43 PM »
Well you gave us all the impression that you're doing 10-bit on your ION box.

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2012, 07:37:14 PM »
Sorry, bad wording then.

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Yes, but now we're on the argument of "the ION box is awesome unless you want to watch 10bit stuff," which was the point of the thread.
The point of the thread was "what to do with 10-bit stuff when you don't want to buy a new computer".

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Essentially going right back to "the ION box is useless." and "You're better off getting a better HTPC."
The world does not revolve around 10-bit anime. And for everything else, an ION box is awesome.
I don't care the least about buying a new box just because of a fad that will be dead and gone as soon as fansubbers find a new toy.