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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2012, 08:53:58 PM »
Here's my guide.

1. Buy long HDMI cable.
2. Plug one end of HDMI cable into PC.
3. Plus the other end of HDMI cable into TV.
4. Enable clone mode or dual display.
5. ????
6. Profit.
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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2012, 09:16:34 PM »
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Essentially going right back to "the ION box is useless." and "You're better off getting a better HTPC."
The world does not revolve around 10-bit anime. And for everything else, an ION box is awesome.
I don't care the least about buying a new box just because of a fad that will be dead and gone as soon as fansubbers find a new toy.

Right, so really given that this a discussion on watching 10bit anime, you should have said either nothing or "I don't care for 10bit." The rest is superfluous.

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2012, 09:53:45 PM »
Sorry, bad wording then.

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Yes, but now we're on the argument of "the ION box is awesome unless you want to watch 10bit stuff," which was the point of the thread.
The point of the thread was "what to do with 10-bit stuff when you don't want to buy a new computer".

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Essentially going right back to "the ION box is useless." and "You're better off getting a better HTPC."
The world does not revolve around 10-bit anime. And for everything else, an ION box is awesome.
I don't care the least about buying a new box just because of a fad that will be dead and gone as soon as fansubbers find a new toy.

actually, buying something thats border-line "enough" is never a good thing, because once something better comes out that thing you've thought thats "enough" is no longer "enough", thats why you get something with a margin, where research and planning dictates how big of a margin you'll need.

in your case you didn't even opted to have a margin at all, since ION is border-line able to play 1080p.

if you've thought about it for a sec there a SNB G530+ITX mobo+GT520 would've costed you about the same with a huge margin for improvement.
if you're gonna argue about power consumption against this setup i've mentioned then you aren't looking at reviews carefully.
and if you'll argue about the noise this'll give off then you aren't looking at the market carefully, theres a whole variety of passive GT520, and the G530 can be passively cooled as well.

well thats what i think anyway.

Edit: oh and expect the up coming new profile or format to not be supported by current and/or old hardwares, what was it again? H.625?
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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2012, 10:06:34 PM »
Why would you download subs when you can just extract them from the mkv? http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MKVExtractGUI

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2012, 10:45:58 PM »
Buy an HDMI cable and stream it to your TV. Almost all TV's nowadays have HDMI port's so do most if not all PC's. 

I think that's the most easiest solution.
I dunno about you but my room (where my computer is located) is on the second floor and the TV is downstairs. I'd need a reaaally long cable (like at least 50ft) to be able to reach it.

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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2012, 11:21:09 PM »
Buy an HDMI cable and stream it to your TV. Almost all TV's nowadays have HDMI port's so do most if not all PC's. 

I think that's the most easiest solution.
I dunno about you but my room (where my computer is located) is on the second floor and the TV is downstairs. I'd need a reaaally long cable (like at least 50ft) to be able to reach it.

If you know what you're doing, you can drill a small hole for it through the ceiling and feed it through. Unless i'm misunderstanding you and you have a REALLY big house. Otherwise, yah, this is where the HTPC would come in handy, either as a device to stream from your computer or to act as a small server. Right now I have no need for one myself (the TV in my room is larger than the one in the living room ^_^) but in the future I can see myself experimenting with building my own.

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2012, 11:27:51 PM »
Unless your house is concrete like mine, uuhhh imagine drilling through 1 feet of concrete.
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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2012, 11:42:25 PM »
Unless your house is concrete like mine, uuhhh imagine drilling through 1 feet of concrete.
Well there's not only one but atleast two good options for that. :D
1. Invest in a good drill
or
2. get a HTPC

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2012, 12:25:12 AM »
Unless your house is concrete like mine, uuhhh imagine drilling through 1 feet of concrete.
Well there's not only one but atleast two good options for that. :D
1. Invest in a good drill
or
2. get a Wireless HTPC
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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2012, 01:09:14 AM »
Unless your house is concrete like mine, uuhhh imagine drilling through 1 feet of concrete.

The hell, concrete on the first floor, what genius thought that was a good idea? :/

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2012, 01:12:12 AM »
Unless your house is concrete like mine, uuhhh imagine drilling through 1 feet of concrete.

The hell, concrete on the first floor, what genius thought that was a good idea? :/
Are you a civil engineer? If not then I don't know as well.

Well there're decent wireless display products available now.
Adapters on both end, hook them up, get good wireless keyboard and mouse as well, everything you can do remotely.
I tell you what though, the PS3 controller has quite the range, I was able to control my music playback from the toilet to my PS3, that's at least 10 meters with concrete in between.
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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2012, 04:56:31 AM »
i just play 10b anime just fine on my tv, though i stream it
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shark007 codecs
thats all

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2012, 04:58:13 AM »
Method two.

Step One: Plug your computer into your TV.
Step Two: There is no step two.

I agree with this. I never understand why people go out of there way to convert/change/destroy/rebuild video files into something a very limit piece of hardware could play on a TV screen. Just connect your PC to the TV. If you can't for any reason get a cheap PC and use that instead. Most laptop have HDMI out on it so why not use your laptop if you have one. You save on pain killers in the long run trying to get the right kind of conversion for your video files.

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2012, 05:09:56 AM »
I don't care the least about buying a new box just because of a fad that will be dead and gone as soon as fansubbers find a new toy.

Doesn't the possibility that 10-bit may soon be gone and replaced with something new make a full HTPC more attractive? There are many possibilities that fansubbers might throw at you - a full HTPC would more likely be able to handle these than an ION system.

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2012, 05:11:10 AM »
i guess we like the roundabout way lol

but tbh i didnt like how it looked when i hooked my laptop to my tv a couple years ago so i gave up on the idea (color were to bright, eyebleeding and barely readable)

hmm, maybe ill give it another chance just will need another hdmi tho
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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2012, 06:18:01 AM »
Method two.

Step One: Plug your computer into your TV.
Step Two: There is no step two.

I agree with this. I never understand why people go out of there way to convert/change/destroy/rebuild video files into something a very limit piece of hardware could play on a TV screen. Just connect your PC to the TV. If you can't for any reason get a cheap PC and use that instead. Most laptop have HDMI out on it so why not use your laptop if you have one. You save on pain killers in the long run trying to get the right kind of conversion for your video files.


Because an HTPC could not do everything hardware players could do, bitstreaming HD audio is one of them that up until recently could not be achieved using an HTPC nor could a silent running 24/7 box, while the newer cpu's do run cooler then in the past its still hard to achieve a silent running htpc. And also keep a small form factor, Hardware players now are almost the size of a cellphone, so its easy to strap them to the back of a tv mounted on a wall and hide everything.

Some of us have multiple players multiple tv's and watch more then just anime and have whole families that use them, I removed all my pc's for low wattage ion, and amd-350/450 machines, As they were plenty for my computer needs, As all my hardware players did everything I needed. I would not replace all my players with htpc's yet, Im still waiting to see what the new ARM/mali combo can do,  If everything you ever watched was anime with no HD audio I can see the appeal of just using an HTPC or connecting a laptop to a tv, But its not the solution for everyone and multi user type environments.

Not to mention your standard 1080p capable hardware player only costs about 70$-120$ for the no frills one you cant build a  htpc for that cost.
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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2012, 08:45:55 AM »
Well 10-bit is now, and I doubt the next video codec standard will be picked up any faster than 10-bit.
And we are talking about now, not the future, now.
So HTPC does it all, 10-bit AVC, Bitstream HD audio, and even gaming and the other stuff a standard PC is capable of doing.
We're now seeing televisions and HD media players having all that social media crap installed in as well, but you need to pay more.





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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2012, 08:50:00 AM »
@halfelite
absolute silence on an HTPC? easy.

[52+75$] G530(or i3-2100T) + Noctua NH-C12P SE14(minus the fan)
[45$] GT520 + fanless option / HD6450 + fanless option
[45$] 2x4GB ram kit (kingston maybe?)
[100$] ITX/M-ATX motherboard+ built-in Wifi (for ease of access, not necessary)
[128$] SSD 120GB
[75$] Pico PSU 80W
[100$] a CASE of choice
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[620$] sum of it all? an absolute silent rig

yaaaa its expensive, but cut the craps its pretty much 300$ish there.
Edit: wait i forgot the ram...
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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2012, 10:26:22 AM »
Unless your house is concrete like mine, uuhhh imagine drilling through 1 feet of concrete.
Well there's not only one but atleast two good options for that. :D
1. Invest in a good drill
or
2. get a HTPC

Renting the drill or borrowing it from someone is cheaper.

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Re: Watching 10 bit anime on flatscreen TV's ***GUIDE***
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2012, 10:34:17 AM »
@halfelite
absolute silence on an HTPC? easy.

[52+75$] G530(or i3-2100T) + Noctua NH-C12P SE14(minus the fan)
[45$] GT520 + fanless option / HD6450 + fanless option
[45$] 2x4GB ram kit (kingston maybe?)
[100$] ITX/M-ATX motherboard+ built-in Wifi (for ease of access, not necessary)
[128$] SSD 120GB
[75$] Pico PSU 80W
[100$] a CASE of choice
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[620$] sum of it all? an absolute silent rig

yaaaa its expensive, but cut the craps its pretty much 300$ish there.
Edit: wait i forgot the ram...

And you can cut the cost of that down very easily without impacting performance too much, as well. A perfectly good ITX case can go for less than $100 easily, $75 for an 80w PSU is ridiculous (that's how much my 750w PSU cost), and a quiet conventional HDD of similar size to that SSD would be significantly cheaper too. The other components could probably also be replaced with cheaper equivalents too, though I'm not up to date on current prices, so I can't really comment.

Anyway, when I last looked into building an HTPC, nearly a year ago, I was looking at around £250 for good enough set up. Apparently that's around $400.