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XP mode?
Clannad_92:
so, judging from the situation and advices from you all, i should install windows 7 ultimate 64 + xpmode 32...
though i still hav many question about xpmode...
this one came out of my mind atm:
1.someone just said that i can run directly an application from win 7 after installing it in xpmode...is it true?
2.how about my software(graphic, touchpad etc)? last time i tried to install win xp32(normal) in to my laptop it didnt go well...i think(maybe) when trying to install winxp, i get BSOD...and why is that?
i need fast answer, so that i can start formatting my laptop next weekend...
lapa321:
--- Quote from: Clannad_92 on April 14, 2012, 12:23:00 PM ---1.someone just said that i can run directly an application from win 7 after installing it in xpmode...is it true?
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Yes, when you install Microsoft Virtual PC, it creates a shortcut in the Win7 start menu. I checked the link of the sample above and this was in its properties dialog.
%SystemRoot%\system32\rundll32.exe %SystemRoot%\system32\VMCPropertyHandler.dll,LaunchVMSal "Windows XP Mode" "||10242439" "Shortcut to Project1"
I did not make that link, it was created by MSVirtualPC and added to my start menu.
--- Quote ---2.how about my software(graphic, touchpad etc)? last time i tried to install win xp32(normal) in to my laptop it didnt go well...i think(maybe) when trying to install winxp, i get BSOD...and why is that?
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I get that too. Apparently, the XP installer cannot recognize new laptops (Laptop came with Vista, i wanted to 'upgrade' it to WinXP, no dice.)
When you install VirtualPC WinXP, you are not actually going through a full WinXP installation since it's piggybacking on your Win7 drivers already. If you have a WinXP installation disk, you will not be using it. Not sure about WinXP specific devices since i've thrown those out a long time ago.
You don't actually have a WinXP folder in your harddrive containing your system files. It's all compacted in one module. On my PC it's.
C:\Users\lapa\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Virtual PC\Virtual Machines\Windows XP Mode.vhd
That is a 5.7 Gigabyte file. I can't find the program i installed anywhere in my harddrive, so i'm assuming that it's inside there as well.
When you're downloading the WinXP module, it's under 500MB. And while it's running, it will continue to check for updates.
A bit of warning tho, Win7's MSE does not work so you may want to install a WinXP anti-virus. It does have Windows Security Center and will also automatically download WinXP updates. If you get a message that says windows needs to restart after downloading an update, it will only restart the VirtualPC, not your actual PC.
Drives A, C and D are the ones inside the VirtualPC.
Under "Others". Drive C, D are my 'real' partitions. E is my card reader (it's a laptop). F is daemon tools. Z is my USB drive. If you check your router, you'll likely see two new devices connected to your network. The virtualPC and WinXP module are given their own separate network names. Not really sure how that works considering that they're all using the same LAN card.
costi:
--- Quote from: Clannad_92 on April 14, 2012, 12:23:00 PM ---2.how about my software(graphic, touchpad etc)? last time i tried to install win xp32(normal) in to my laptop it didnt go well...i think(maybe) when trying to install winxp, i get BSOD...and why is that?
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XP installer does not recognize most SATA controllers working in AHCI mode. Either switch to IDE in the bios (if you can) or add the relevant drivers to the XP install disk using nLite. Or, if you have a floppy drive in your laptop (which I very highly doubt :P ), you can use a diskette to provide the necessary drivers ;)
Bob2004:
You don't need to install any drivers with Windows XP Mode, except in very specific cases, since it never interfaces with any of your hardware directly. It runs in an entirely virtual computer, which means virtual memory, virtual graphics card, virtual input devices, etc, so you shouldn't need to install drivers for anything.
As for antivirus, I wouldn't bother tbh. You're only going to be installing a very limited, specific set of software that's known to be safe, and you're not going to be using Windows XP to browse the web at all, so there's very little threat. An antivirus would just slow things down.
@lapa321: The way the Virtual Machine connects to the internet by default (in XP Mode, anyway) is using NAT, or Network Address Translation. It basically works in exactly the same way as your router does when deciding which computer it is meant to send data to. Basically, even though the VM and host PC are sharing one network card, and thus only have one physical address on the network, their IP addresses are actually different. So as far as the router is concerned, they are actually different computers, despite only being one computer.
That's how it works by default, you can also set up all kinds of virtual networks, and the host PC can act as a bridge, and link that to the real network. You can also disable internet connection for the VM completely, which is what I do.
megido-rev.M:
There's not much reason to over-secure a VM which only has minor purpose, especially if it's sandboxed. Drivers don't really matter either as the hardware is all emulated anyway.
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