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--- Quote from: mrdkreka on May 06, 2012, 10:22:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: kitamesume on May 06, 2012, 12:12:41 AM ---sound card : im kind of against buying dedicated sound card, since buying one doesn't necessarily mean the quality of your sound system will improve a notch, now a day's onboards (ALC889, ALC892, ALC898) are top-notch and can output quite a clear sound.
one thing you should do before considering one is to clarify if your sound system can output the quality that the sound card will give, since if you got a crappy headphone for example it'll be a waste of money to opt for a sound card where buying a better headphone would result in a more profitable manner. oh and op-amps works too.
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Speaker: z623, the bass is a bit flat, and some frequency it doesn't do well, so I don't think my speaker would benefit that much
Headphones: Audio-Technica ATH-M50, I don't have anything define to complain about here, so I assume it will get most benefit out of a sound card.
SSD changed it to a Crucial M4 128 GB SSD
HDD Western Digital 750 GB Scorpio Black (WD7500BPKT), I have a lot of music I listen to and so on, so I will need a HDD that can handle getting a lot of read and write on it.
MOBO So if I went with the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard you recommended, will I be able to add a soundcard, or won't that be necessary?
RAM would CL9 ( 9-9-9-24 ) make it a bottleneck? I'm leaning most too 2x4, since most of the 2x8 have CL10, and if they have below that the price increase quite a lot, so I think it is better to upgrade to more, when I start needing it.
GPU: I have considered to get a ati/amd one, but I have had quite a lot of problems with them in there mobile version( I think around 50 crash caused by the gpu), so I will look to see if I can find a GTX instead.
Is there a site that show a list of graphic cards, and what they are capable of running? I know a site for mobile graphic cards, but that doesn't really help much here.
CPU: still thinking if I should bump it op to i7, I will look a bit more into it.
Edit:
Looked around for a GPU and found ASUS ENGTX560 Ti DCII/2DI/1GD5 (90-C1CQ90-L0UAY0YZ) to be very good for its performance to price ratio
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That Scorpio is 2,5" "laptop" hard drive. I suggest going for example with WD caviar black 1 TB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533) These even still have that 5 yr warranty.
mrdkreka:
--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on May 06, 2012, 11:25:16 AM ---I find it interesting that your HDD of choice is a Scorpio. That's WD's line of 2.5"/laptop drives, isn't it? Any reason why you're not getting a Caviar (i.e. 3.5"/desktop)?
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nah just the one I found which was Scorpio was a 2.5, but changing it to Western Digital 1000GB Black 64 MB 3.5", SATA-600(WD1002FAEX) (one Hebbe recommended) will only increase the price slightly, so I will get that one instead.
--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on May 06, 2012, 11:25:16 AM ---You can add a sound card to pretty much any board AFAIK. I've always found onboard sound to be good enough for my needs - IMO sound cards are largely for audiophiles, or multi-channel sound if the board doesn't already support that. I really doubt that any issues you're having with your audio are caused by your lack of a sound card...
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I also doubt it will do much to the speaker, since the flat bass is caused by the small size of the subwoofer. So I will wait and see if I'm happy with the generated output of the motherboard before buying a sound card.
--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on May 06, 2012, 11:25:16 AM ---CL9 is pretty standard for DDR3. If you're getting large RAM sticks, you can't go much lower. The lowest latency you can get in DDR3 is CL6, only available in 2GB (or maybe 1GB) sticks, and the price per GB compared to the performance increase (which is pretty much negligible for all users that are not enthusiasts/benchmarkers) is not worth it. You mentioned most 2x8 have CL10, but I recall seeing one of the cheapest 4x8 kits being CL9 (G.Skill Ares series), though granted the clock speed is not very high. That brings up the point that you should also look at clock speed when comparing RAM.
TL;DR - your RAM should not be a bottleneck.
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I couldn't find 2x8 or 4x8 G.Skill Ares in stores for my region, I think they will be more available in the future, so I will go with 2x4 for now, and upgrade in the future.
--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on May 06, 2012, 11:25:16 AM ---For GPU comparisons I mostly look at Wikipedia (lol). If you find a cool site, let me know, I'd like to see it too. If I'm not mistaken, the card you picked out is one generation behind, but that's probably not a problem, right?
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yeah, I'm pretty sure you are right with it being one generation old, but it still performs well and can handle new game, so I think it will be sufficient for my gaming need.
Edit:
Updated the list and find what it would cost where I live
MOBO: 1024kr ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
CPU: 1675kr Intel Core i5 3570K (ivy bridge).
GPU: 1685kr ASUS ENGTX560 Ti DCII/2DI/1GD5 (90-C1CQ90-L0UAY0YZ)
Ram: 377kr Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz (2x4) (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9)
PSU: 850kr Corsair Enthusiast Serie Modular TX750M
SDD: 981kr Crucial M4 128 GB SSD
HDD: 868kr Western Digital 1000GB Black 64 MB 3.5", SATA-600(WD1002FAEX)
CPU Cooling: 232kr Thermaltake Contac 29 BP
Optical Drive: 151kr Samsung SH-222AB DVD±RW Black (upgrade to BD in future)
Cabinet: 686kr Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced (RC-692-KKN2)
Screen: 2076kr Dell 24" UltraSharp U2412M IPS Panel
Sound card: (523kr) -------ASUS Xonar DX/XD/A------- (didn't include)
Price total: 10605kr = 1866 US$
Since it is a bit lower than I thought it would end up with, I could probably upgrade one of the components
Hebbe:
Sounds like a good build. If your going to upgrade one of the component's that really should be the GPU. On the other hand if you don't mind having dated GPU you could always get another hard drive (raid setup?) and Fractal Design R3 is an excellent case to consider.
mrdkreka:
Well if I get another hard drive I would be an external one, since I will still be using my laptop for school, where it is nice to have easy access to data.
the GPU is the one I'm leaning most to upgrade, but having a bit of trouble finding a better one that aren't to expensive
What would be the reason to go with Fractal Design R3 over Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced?
Hebbe:
--- Quote from: mrdkreka on May 06, 2012, 01:08:08 PM ---Well if I get another hard drive I would be an external one, since I will still be using my laptop for school, where it is nice to have easy access to data.
the GPU is the one I'm leaning most to upgrade, but having a bit of trouble finding a better one that aren't to expensive
What would be the reason to go with Fractal Design R3 over Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced?
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Well define R3 has that noise absorbing material and minimalistic and sleek desingn. But if you don't mind about the noise... well it's only about your opinion which looks better.
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