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Hebbe:
i7-3770 isn't really worth the extra 100$ if video encoding/something similar isn't the main objective of that build.
Saras:
--- Quote from: Hebbe on May 06, 2012, 03:44:03 PM ---i7-3770 isn't really worth the extra 100$ if video encoding/something similar isn't the main objective of that build.
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It's not really 100$ thought. It's more like 50-60. The 3770K is ~100 bucks more. And to be honest, the 3770 is quite a bit more future-proof than the 3570. It should be easily functional for quite a few years from now.
And when you count in roughly a year and bit saved on upgrading your system, a bit more than some odd 50$'s sounds like a bargain. If he wants to play the newest and the greatest from this point onward to about 2016, a new gpu is the only thing he'll need to think about.
datora:
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Overall, I think your build list is very solid. To get an idea (for myself) how this translated between our regions, I broke down the individual conversions:
10,605 Kr = $ 1866
conversion rate: 5.6833
1024 = $ 180.18 (mobo)
1675 = $ 297.36 (CPU)
232 = $ 40.82 (cooling block)
1685 = $ 296.48 (GPU)
377 = $ 66.34 (RAM)
850 = $ 149.56 (PSU)
981 = $ 172.61 (SDD)
868 = $ 152.73 (HDD)
151 = $ 25.57 (DVD)
686 = $ 120.71 (case)
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8529 = $1502.36
2076 = $ 365.28 (monitor)
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10605= $1867.64 (difference should be rounding error, but I was also typing fast ;) )
These appear to be most of the components as available at newegg currently:
mobo:
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
Your mobo+CPU combination will allow you to overclock a little; once you're stable, look into it. There are small, very safe tweaks you can do to pick up a noticeable edge on the CPU and (possibly) a smaller edge on RAM.
CPU:
i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
That is an expensive CPU, but should last you for years. I see where people are overclocking it safely to 3.8 & 4.0 GHz. Might be worth it at some point, but for your current use it might not make enough difference. Just keep it in mind for one future "upgrade" that might be possible for free.
cooling block:
Not @newegg; doesn't matter, the general class this one seems to be in is more than adequate, even for mild overclock.
GPU:
ASUS ENGTX560 DC/2DI/1GD5 GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCIe 2.0 x16
Unless you move into high-end games, this is a hell of a lot of GPU. Also, this card can be overclocked safely to get some extra performance out of it, should it fall short on a particular software/game. Again, a "free upgrade" to consider if it seems to cause you issues at some point.
RAM:
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
Don't worry about the 9-9-9-24 ... it's standard at this clock speed. If you decide to overclock later on, you might be able to attempt 8-8-8-24 (maybe even with a slight voltage tweak); but don't worry about it. Won't make much difference beyond benchmark numbers. In the future you can look at a 2x 8 GB kit and add it. Get one with good voltage match & timing numbers & make sure to put the 16 GB in the first bank and move the 8 GB kit to the second bank and you'll have 24 GB total running no slower than this timing. I can't imagine using that much, but a few short years ago I couldn't imagine needing more than 2 or maybe 3 GB ... ???
There was this topic, make sure to check out vuzedome's link:
» General Discussions » Technology » PC Memory Knowledge
PSU:
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750M 750W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Semi Modular
This is WAAAAY overpowered for your build. The 650 version of this PSU would be overpowered by a substantial margin. If you are considering a second GPU card in SLI as an upgrade, then this 750 would be good insurance. I mean, it's real nice, don't get me wrong, but (short of dual-GPUs), you're never going to come close to needing this much.
SSD:
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC
Sorry that's so expensive for you. This is obviously one of my top picks, currently ... so ... hope very much it treats you very well. Take the time to research it with some google searches and at the Crucial website/forums. SSDs aren't perfectly plug-n-play yet, so some tweaks & settings are often necessary for top performance.
HDD:
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
The discussion for Scorpios was merely for possibility, depending on opportunity; also, they use less power & run cooler, which could be a more serious consideration in other situations (such as a compact case for). This Caviar should be one of the most stable drives available on today's market. The shame of it is that they were less than half this price last August.
DVD burner: (not exact model match)
SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X SATA SH-222BB/BEBE
I hadn't though about it, but I usually recommend ASUS 24X DVD Burner DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS or whatever their current, equivalent model is. As far as I know, the Samsung is good ... I just have brand loyalty to ASUS on this item because I've had so many over the years and they've always performed flawlessly.
case:
COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
Looks pretty good to me; I'm big on function and don't care about looks. This case has enormous capacity for function and cooling, so it's a bit pricey for me (I usually target ~$70), but it should not disappoint you.
monitor:
not at newegg, but it's one of the better Dell lines, so it should be very hard to be disappointed. I've spent most of my time considering ASUS monitors in their budget line, but there are compromises I have to accept when looking at those. I currently have a 22" Dell that's been in service for over two years ... I live & swear by it. Not been disappointed at all in it, and this was one of their budget offerings.
mrdkreka:
@Freedom kira
I found a site that do pretty good comparisons in benchmark and price ratio
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
I still don't see what I will use all the power of an i7 ivy bridge, but I guess that it is better going a bit over the top, than regret not too do it in the future.
gpu: I will go with 7850 then, by doing that I can in the future do crossfire if it become a necessity.
Since there is a minimum of 25% tax on everything the difference is a bit bigger.
1675kr / 295$ (3570K i5) vs 2411kr / 424$ (i7 3770K)
2177kr/ 383$(i7 3770) vs 2411kr / 424$ (i7 3770K) - is the difference worth 50$ more?
edit:
Didn't see your post Datora before I posted will read it and then make a list of what I have changed
MOBO: 1024kr ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
CPU: 1762kr maybe Intel Core i5 3570K (ivy bridge). - I can't see why I should get the 3770k over the 3770? so I might go with the 3770 if I should go with i7
GPU: 1762kr Club 3D Radeon HD 7850 (2 GB) (CGAX-7856) -changed
Ram: 377kr Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz (2x4) (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9) - well I have managed with 4gb in my laptop, without needing to close stuff because of to little memory, but then again the browser adjust to the memory it have to work with, to bad a lot of wannabe tech people don't know that and complain about the browser using to much :P
PSU: 645kr Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 (CMPSU-650TXV2EU) - would I need a TX750M if I went crossfire?
SDD: 981kr Crucial M4 128 GB SSD - It is a bit more expensive as you said Datora, but people also recommend it where I live even thought it is a bit more epensive.
HDD: 868kr Western Digital 1000GB Black 64 MB 3.5", SATA-600(WD1002FAEX) - the high prices on HDD was one of the reason I have delayed building a desktop together with the release of ivy bridge
CPU Cooling: 232kr Thermaltake Contac 29 BP
Optical Drive: 151kr Samsung SH-222AB DVD±RW Black (upgrade to BD in future) - Can't find the asus one, but it doesn't matter much, doubt I will use it more than one or two times on a year.
Cabinet: 740kr Fractal Design Design Define R3 Black
Screen: 2076kr Dell 24" UltraSharp U2412M IPS Panel - went with dell over the asus one mostly because IPS>TFF
10605kr=1866.16185 US$
Hebbe:
--- Quote from: Saras on May 06, 2012, 04:05:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hebbe on May 06, 2012, 03:44:03 PM ---i7-3770 isn't really worth the extra 100$ if video encoding/something similar isn't the main objective of that build.
--- End quote ---
It's not really 100$ thought. It's more like 50-60. The 3770K is ~100 bucks more. And to be honest, the 3770 is quite a bit more future-proof than the 3570. It should be easily functional for quite a few years from now.
And when you count in roughly a year and bit saved on upgrading your system, a bit more than some odd 50$'s sounds like a bargain. If he wants to play the newest and the greatest from this point onward to about 2016, a new gpu is the only thing he'll need to think about.
--- End quote ---
The newest and the greatest to 2016? I don't think so. Intel has quite a bit of new tech coming almost every year.
-2013 may-june: New architecture (Haswell).
-2014: die shrink to 14 nm (Broadwell)
-2015: new 14 nm architecture (Skylake)
...
And I don't think 3770 is anymore future proof than 3570. Both have 4 physical cores and same clock speed. 3770 only has Hyper-threading. It's really not that big of a deal.
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