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vuzedome:
Must be personal choice then, well the fractal R3 lacks a window on the side panel so no point buying components that look good I guess.
And I don't think the 3770 isn't going to be much of an advantage over a 3570.
You'd probably be upgrading again in 2014 regardless.
Hebbe:
--- Quote from: vuzedome on May 06, 2012, 04:35:00 PM ---Must be personal choice then, well the fractal R3 lacks a window on the side panel so no point buying components that look good I guess.
And I don't think the 3770 isn't going to be much of an advantage over a 3570.
You'd probably be upgrading again in 2014 regardless.
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2-year cycle is quite optimal for keeping up with the greatest tech atm. I have been trying to keep upgrading every 2 year, but I think I'll have to wait third year this time since back in 2010 I paid 2300$ for parts alone.
Saras:
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--- Quote from: Hebbe on May 06, 2012, 03:44:03 PM ---i7-3770 isn't really worth the extra 100$ if video encoding/something similar isn't the main objective of that build.
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It's not really 100$ thought. It's more like 50-60. The 3770K is ~100 bucks more. And to be honest, the 3770 is quite a bit more future-proof than the 3570. It should be easily functional for quite a few years from now.
And when you count in roughly a year and bit saved on upgrading your system, a bit more than some odd 50$'s sounds like a bargain. If he wants to play the newest and the greatest from this point onward to about 2016, a new gpu is the only thing he'll need to think about.
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The newest and the greatest to 2016? I don't think so. Intel has quite a bit of new tech coming almost every year.
-2013 may-june: New architecture (Haswell).
-2014: die shrink to 14 nm (Broadwell)
-2015: new 14 nm architecture (Skylake)
...
And I don't think 3770 is anymore future proof than 3570. Both have 4 physical cores and same clock speed. 3770 only has Hyper-threading. It's really not that big of a deal.
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I'd say you can save up for one extra generation by going to an i7 instead of an i5.
By the looks of it, the 3570 can't match the 2600k by a longshot and the stock 960 basically ranks the same as the stock 2500k. I very well expect the new architecture i5 to be roughly equivalent to the the current 3770 and the broadwell i5 or equivalent to be ~10-15% better. Then I suspect that it will be equivalent to the skywell i3 or equivalent. Top of the line by 2016? Fuck no, but I don't see it being non-functional. I believe that seems like a reasonable assumption.
And if you look at the prospects of future proofing. The difference between the CPU cycles seem to be quite a bit lower than the difference between GPU cycles. Hell, the q6600 still seems to be very much functional, shit was released when? 06, I believe? Show me someone seriously gaming on a 8800.
What concerns HT, the difference now might be minor, but if we are talking about future-proofing. I see no reason why it couldn't be put to use in a few years. And besides, while he might be using it to the fullest now, he might get a hobby in a year or a bit that will. And the buyers remorse of saving 50$ could suck quite a bit.
@mrdkreka
50$ from 3770 to 3770k? If you intend to OC it, yes. If no, fuck no.
mrdkreka:
--- Quote from: Saras on May 06, 2012, 05:15:05 PM ---I'd say you can save up for one extra generation by going to an i7 instead of an i5.
And if you look at the prospects of future proofing. The difference between the CPU cycles seem to be quite a bit lower than the difference between GPU cycles. Hell, the q6600 still seems to be very much functional, shit was released when? 06, I believe? Show me someone seriously gaming on a 8800.
What concerns HT, the difference now might be minor, but if we are talking about future-proofing. I see no reason why it couldn't be put to use in a few years. And besides, while he might be using it to the fullest now, he might get a hobby in a year or a bit that will. And the buyers remorse of saving 50$ could suck quite a bit.
@mrdkreka
50$ from 3770 to 3770k? If you intend to OC it, yes. If no, fuck no.
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Well it isn't that much more for i7 3770 compared to i5 3570K, so I guess I will go with that one
I think the list might be final unless I'm overlooking something
MOBO: 1024kr ASRock Z77 Extreme4 (Z77 EXTREME4)
CPU: 2177kr Intel Core i7 3770 Ivy Bridge (BX80637I73770)
GPU: 1762kr Club 3D Radeon HD 7850 (2 GB) (CGAX-7856)
Ram: 377kr Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz (2x4) (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9)
PSU: 645kr Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 (CMPSU-650TXV2EU)
SDD: 981kr Crucial M4 128 GB SSD
HDD: 868kr Western Digital 1000GB Black 64 MB 3.5", SATA-600(WD1002FAEX)
CPU Cooling: 232kr Thermaltake Contac 29 BP
Optical Drive: 151kr Samsung SH-222AB DVD±RW Black (upgrade to BD in future)
Cabinet: 740kr Fractal Design Design Define R3 Black
Screen: 2076kr Dell 24" UltraSharp U2412M IPS Panel -
11033kr = 1941 US$
Hebbe:
Ultimately it's up to you what you are buying. But it looks good to me ;)
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