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Offline datora

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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2012, 04:04:49 AM »
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Quote from: Saras on May 09, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
Why not just make a whole case out of aluminium/copper and connect it to the heatsink. By extension creating a huge ass heat sink?

Heard of a thing called "static electric discharge" ..?  Now, imagine that your entire case is a solid sheet of copper.  Connected directly to your CPU .......
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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2012, 04:39:37 AM »
I won't be doing this aquarium with mineral oil anymore. I saw like more videos and reviews and ... that's pretty disgusting. It would be cool to try it out with a really cheap computer, like one of the ones that you guys have built.
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Offline kitamesume

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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2012, 04:46:31 AM »
Quote from: Freedom Kira on May 10, 2012, 03:59:50 AM
Celeron still uses more power, so in the end it costs more both in the short term and long term.

And you can knock $10 off that "cheapest rig evar" by going with the Atom. =P

the celeron doesn't really use that much power imho.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/328069-28-2012-entry-level-desktop-intel-celeron-g530-performance-guide
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anyway, what you get in return with that little bump in wattage and a few bucks is 3-4x more cpu power? see it crunch 1080p HD using only the CPU >,>
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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2012, 06:25:25 AM »
Quote from: Saras on May 09, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
Why not just make a whole case out of aluminium/copper and connect it to the heatsink. By extension creating a huge ass heat sink?
Like http://hacknmod.com/hack/make-your-entire-case-a-massive-heat-sink/ ?
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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2012, 07:26:54 AM »
Quote from: datora on May 10, 2012, 04:04:49 AM
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Quote from: Saras on May 09, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
Why not just make a whole case out of aluminium/copper and connect it to the heatsink. By extension creating a huge ass heat sink?

Heard of a thing called "static electric discharge" ..?  Now, imagine that your entire case is a solid sheet of copper.  Connected directly to your CPU .......

Ground it?

Quote from: kureshii on May 10, 2012, 06:25:25 AM
Quote from: Saras on May 09, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
Why not just make a whole case out of aluminium/copper and connect it to the heatsink. By extension creating a huge ass heat sink?
Like http://hacknmod.com/hack/make-your-entire-case-a-massive-heat-sink/ ?

Yes that's exactly what I meant.
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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2012, 11:24:07 AM »
Finnish computer magasine build a completely passively cooled computer five or six years back and it was made from the top of the line parts too. The case ended up being compared to a sauna oven but it did work. Considering modern energy technology improvements from that time. It shouldn't be too hard.
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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2012, 07:46:23 PM »
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Let's move on. I want to see who can build a working computer for personal use for 300 dollars or less, and one for gaming for 400 dollars or less.

See http://www.frys-electronics-ads.com/

Currently being sold at Fry's retail store is a WORKING dual-core windows7 laptop well under $300.  Perhaps it is too-low priced, but it shows how low a new laptop can be at an actual retail store.  It's working because there is an officially licensed windows operating system with it.  Without an O/S, it is non-working computer.
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It's too bad that 256GB SSD drives push the PC past your budget limit as this is currently on sale at Fry's and no rebate form needed.  That's the price you pay at the retail store.
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Offline Saras

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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2012, 08:09:43 AM »
I got interested in some low end AMD solutions. Something you'd give to a kid gamer or use as an HTPC.

AMD A8-3850 90$
ASRock A55M-HVS 55$
XION HTPC Series XON-810PCB-RD Micro-ATX w/ 450W Power Supply 50$
Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1333 45$
HGST 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" 70$

This'd total to about 310$. Seems like a doable setup.

Additionaly, you could chuck in a HD 6670 for another 70$ and do a hybrid crossfire to go from entry level gaming to mid level. That'd total to 380$

Something like this looks mostly functional, considering it's price.
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Offline kitamesume

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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2012, 10:34:58 AM »
HD6570 OCed to 800mhz is roughly as fast as the HD6670 at stock, since they have the same core count and all. and that saves you a few more bucks =P
i wonder tho if you can flash the bios into HD6670.

in contrast this should work better, being more energy efficient while at it.
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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2012, 11:27:18 AM »
Quote from: kitamesume on May 31, 2012, 10:34:58 AM
HD6570 OCed to 800mhz is roughly as fast as the HD6670 at stock, since they have the same core count and all. and that saves you a few more bucks =P
i wonder tho if you can flash the bios into HD6670.

in contrast this should work better, being more energy efficient while at it.
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However, without the discrete card the general A8 seems to be decent enough for light gaming at 310$. And I've no idea how to beat that with an intel setup. Considering that intel's HD4000, while a lot better than the 3000, is still far behind the APU's... just wish their CPU's were up to the competition.

And if we're going that route, why go i3 instead of pentium? Drop down the processor to a g620 and put the 50$ to a HD6870 or the GTX560 as you can get those for 160 or so $. After all, the difference between a G620 and an i3 is far lower than between 7750 and 6870/560
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Offline kitamesume

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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2012, 01:35:52 PM »
ah, if that were the case the HD4000 can be on par with the A6 IGP, i dont know about the A8 tho.
PS: HD2000 is comparable to an GT210 or HD5450, i guess thats around A4's IGP.

the reason why the i3 tho would be because of comparisons with a quad core A8, the Pentium lacks performance as a CPU once heavy threads is used.

also the celeron is much more cost effective instead of the pentium, the performance lost is only around 15% in comparison to the 25% less cost.
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Offline saber101

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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2012, 03:09:38 PM »
its been 2yrs since my last build
not like anyone gonna care, but current rig.
CPU:AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition [Coolmaster hyper 212]
RAM:Corsair 2x2GB + partriot 2x2GB
MOBO: Gigabyte 880G UD3H
PSU: Antec neo eco 620watt
GPU: Powercolor 6870
Case: Thermaltake V3
HDD: Western Digital Green x2 1TB + 2TB + Samsung[IDE] 200GB = 4.2TB
Monitor: Chimei 21 inch + View sonic 21 inch
Total cost = $800
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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2012, 06:22:35 PM »
Quote from: kitamesume on May 31, 2012, 01:35:52 PM
ah, if that were the case the HD4000 can be on par with the A6 IGP, i dont know about the A8 tho.
PS: HD2000 is comparable to an GT210 or HD5450, i guess thats around A4's IGP.

the reason why the i3 tho would be because of comparisons with a quad core A8, the Pentium lacks performance as a CPU once heavy threads is used.

also the celeron is much more cost effective instead of the pentium, the performance lost is only around 15% in comparison to the 25% less cost.

Hmm, the one that should come with the A10 - the 7660G seems to be in between the 550m and the 555m. That's a long way away from the 4000.

Not the base model, no. But still, a damn long way away.
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Offline boxer4

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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2012, 05:51:33 PM »
I put together a machine recently, it was a Core i7 2700k, 2x4GB=8GB Ballistix Sport, 180GB SSD.  Not quoting prices because I reused some stuff.

Using the onchip HD 3000 Sandybridge graphics, I found it to be about as a low end graphics accelerator (like a nVidia 8400GS), but MUCH faster than the Intel chipset graphics from years past.  The G965 I also have is so much slower... And even that blows away pretty much all the other Intel onboard graphics solutions I own.

I wish I waited till after the SSD price collapse... But it is still insanely fast... Need that SATA 6Gb to keep up.

Blows away my Core2 quad even without using the ssd.  And with it...

BTW I was comparing my Atom1.6+G945 with my Celeron 1.5+G915 in WoW... The Celeron was much faster with the older 915 and lower clock... I was surprised...
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Offline Jelle458

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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2012, 08:21:22 AM »
Type: Gaming rig
Processor: AMD FX-8150 Bulldozer @ 5.177Ghz
Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair V Formula
Graphics cards: 3x AMD HD 7970 reference @ 1200/1400Mhz
RAM: ADATA 1866+ 8-9-8-24 @ 2Ghz 8-9-8-24
Hard drives: 2x Samsung 830 256GB SSD RAID 0, 1TB samsung SATA 2 hard drive 7200rpm


Type: Rendering machine
Processor: Intel Core i7 3960x @ 5Ghz
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage IV Formula
Graphics cards: 2x AMD HD 7970 reference @ 1150/1400Mhz
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 1866 9-10-9-24 @ 1866Mhz 8-9-8-24
Hard drives: 2x Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB RAID 0


Type: Side gamer
Processor: AMD Phenom X4 9950BE @ 3.336Ghz
Motherboard: MSI K9A2 Platinum
Graphics cards: 2x Club 3D HD 5770 + 2x XFX HD 5770 @ 950/850Mhz
RAM: 4GB Corsair XMS2 1333Mhz 5-5-5-21
Hard drive: Old 200GB Maxtor SATA 2


Obviously I did not buy it all myself, I get it for free from the manufactures because I test the stuff for them 8)
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Offline kitamesume

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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2012, 09:01:15 AM »
^wow priceless job, thats srsly sweet.
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Offline Jelle458

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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2012, 10:42:03 AM »
Quote from: kitamesume on June 07, 2012, 09:01:15 AM
^wow priceless job, thats srsly sweet.

I can't complain ;)

I actually just fried that Rampage IV Formula because I just had to push a 3930K CPU to the limit, which apparently fried the PWM controller. Obviously I just contacted Asus: "Hey, give me a new one!" with the answer "Already sent!" ;D
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Offline kitamesume

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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2012, 11:19:38 AM »
if you fried their PWM controller then that rampage isnt so great with overclocking the CPU =/ tho well its a hexa core an all so i guess its a given.
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Offline Jelle458

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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2012, 11:23:46 AM »
Quote from: kitamesume on June 07, 2012, 11:19:38 AM
if you fried their PWM controller then that rampage isnt so great with overclocking the CPU =/ tho well its a hexa core an all so i guess its a given.

I believe it was because of a faulty BIOS that I used. I have been overclocking with many different CPU's on that board without mistakes, but it suddenly got fried after a BIOS flash.

That is what happens when you download off-the-record overclocking BIOS's ;)
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Offline kitamesume

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Re: Build Your Computer
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2012, 02:51:56 PM »
or a bad bios flash =P well anything could go wrong XD


im drooling over this setup atm, no money but who cares, its free to dream on LOL
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Edit: i just noticed that 120gb SSDs seems to be the most cost effective SSD, going 1$/1.25GB ratio.
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