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Transferring MP3 to iPod?

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rostheferret:
I use a creative Zen Vision: M. Plays everything, no problems with converting (as it doesn't need to), and it's pretty much the exact same build as an iPod as well. 6 years old and still going. I also prefer WMP to iTunes though so eh. WMP does what I want it to (play the damn music file) and runs a lot quicker. Sure, there's arguments for Mediamonkey and Foobar but I never saw the need to get used to a different program when the one I have works fine (it probably helps that Creative is a subsidiary of MS too, so the two work well together).

I do get the point about storage though, there aren't many decent HDD based MP3 players around any more and flash drives still aren't big enough to hold my music collection (and screw only loading half of it on there). I'm not convinced the Archos are any more reliable than the iPod from what I've read, and if you use an iPod you pretty much have to use iTunes... *shrugs* The day I buy an apple product is the day I give everyone permission to slap me around the face. Never liked them, never will.

Freedom Kira:

--- Quote from: lapa321 on May 10, 2012, 11:52:59 AM ---A few more guys told me that it loads like that on their PC's as well.

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I don't get that behavior on my P4 3.0GHz with HT, 4GB DDR2, 250GB SATA, XP Home. Takes 20 seconds max to open iTunes on a fresh boot (closer to 10 seconds average). I think you may have other underlying issues you should pay attention to.

lapa321:

--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on May 11, 2012, 02:00:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: lapa321 on May 10, 2012, 11:52:59 AM ---A few more guys told me that it loads like that on their PC's as well.

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I don't get that behavior on my P4 3.0GHz with HT, 4GB DDR2, 250GB SATA, XP Home. Takes 20 seconds max to open iTunes on a fresh boot (closer to 10 seconds average). I think you may have other underlying issues you should pay attention to.

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I did troubleshoot, and like i said, it doesn't like my network. iTunes is just badly programmed, with too many outside dependencies. Surprising considering windows programs are known to hook into everything, yet Apples way of programming breaks even that.

Too many Apple apologists keep blaming the user, ignoring the fact that every other media utility works. You basically want the user to setup his system, 'the apple way', for an iPod. We don't want our lifestyle to revolve around a gadget, we want the gadget to fit into our habits. My file systems, network, media servers, i've set them up around my OS (Windows), i have an easier time integrating the Android phone and Tablet into it than the iPod.

The ability to use the iPod without iTunes was what the Apple apologists were touting on iOS5, i am asking how to do that.

kitamesume:
how? simple, you optimise your system and use the other apps people have been mentioning.

even so, why are you clinging to apple anyway? i say ditch it.

lapa321:

--- Quote from: kitamesume on May 11, 2012, 03:50:51 AM ---how? simple, you optimise your system and use the other apps people have been mentioning.

even so, why are you clinging to apple anyway? i say ditch it.

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Because this is a chance for them to prove it, to an Apple critic that actually has an iOS device. Android lets you move files without going through iTunes via USB, SD/microSD card, Wifi, etc without third party programs or rooting. And the Apple sides counter is that you don't need iTunes anymore. Please, show how it's done.

As for the iPod, i've been lending it because i so rarely use it that i often find it with the battery dead. The ability to transfer files on Android without third party programs makes it easier to cycle files through it, and why a few Archos owners (The ones that actually do use their tablets for media consumption), ended up not touching their iPads for weeks at a time despite the Archos's build quality being inferior (connectivity won them over). Getting their media files into an Android device is just easier. I'm keeping the iPod so i can keep checking which of the two is easier to use from a heavy media consumers perspective. If the time comes that it does let me use it without jumping through hoops, i'll get an iPad.

So how do you do it without third party programs like iTunes?

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