Author Topic: Yet Another Attempt to Link "Murder" to "Gaming" (Read 1088 times)

vicious796 · « **on:** June 07, 2012, 01:34:28 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/prosecutors-killer-played-world-warcraft-7-hours-per-202755037--abc-news-topstories.html

Honestly, I'm getting sick of this popping up over and over and over again. I'm sick of people trying to find excuses for killers. Why can't demented people just be demented? So what if he played WoW and Modern Warfare? Millions and millions of normal ass people play those games every day - some of which longer than the defendant. Demented is demented regardless of their chosen pastimes.

Supai · « **Reply #1 on:** June 07, 2012, 01:45:41 PM »

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violent computer game World of Warcraft

Yup. World of Warcraft totally makes you detonate bombs and mass murder people. It's THAT violent.

Soryon · « **Reply #2 on:** June 07, 2012, 02:08:31 PM »

Who cares. WoW and its community are garbage anyway. Only slightly less trashy then anyone who would try to link it to murder.

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #3 on:** June 07, 2012, 02:39:50 PM »

Politician: "Video games makes all people violent!"
Gamer: "There are millions of normal people who play video games with a very small percentage of people who commit violent acts and in all cases, isn't even the trigger to the violence (ala, bullying, preexisting mental condition, harsh/unlivable political/soc/economic living conditions).

Gamer: "... Plus, most politicians are corrupt and do not listen to their constituents when it comes to those political/soc/economical living conditions and laws that might affect them. You just listen to whoever paid you money for your campaigning!"
Politician (<_>): "Derp, I do not know what your talking about. I have always voted in a way to help my constituents. There are no corrupt politicians in the world... just ones that make honest makes. Derp"

What's that saying again? History is written by the victor? Yeah, whoever has the power will write history.

Muk666 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 07, 2012, 02:52:31 PM »

Would be great if they would make it illegal to sell certain games to kids under 18, then they would have to start blaming the parents like they should have from the start =P

nstgc · « **Reply #5 on:** June 07, 2012, 02:58:29 PM »

Quote from: Muk666 on June 07, 2012, 02:52:31 PM

Would be great if they would make it illegal to sell certain games to kids under 18, then they would have to start blaming the parents like they should have from the start =P

The gaming lobbyist would never allow that to happen, nor would the parental groups.

vicious796 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 07, 2012, 03:06:38 PM »

Quote from: Muk666 on June 07, 2012, 02:52:31 PM

Would be great if they would make it illegal to sell certain games to kids under 18, then they would have to start blaming the parents like they should have from the start =P

In America, many states do make it "illegal" to sell games to customers outside their rating. Beyond that, most distributors have plans in place to require carding people trying to buy M rated games, etc. The problem is that it's a system that requires human interaction and, honestly, most people just don't care.

Beyond that, parents will buy those games for their kids anyway without doing any research at all. For example, my mother in law bought the last GTA game for her 11 year old son because he asked for it. She did not research and then got mad that someone would make a game that involved killing prostitutes for fun. She even went so far as to blame her son for not telling her about it.

nstgc · « **Reply #7 on:** June 07, 2012, 03:11:41 PM »

I remember buying porn at Sam Goodies when I was 16 (and I've always looked younger than I actually am). If that happens, an M rated game is nothing.

FlyinPenguin · « **Reply #8 on:** June 07, 2012, 03:27:28 PM »

Aren't you trying to stop terrorists in COD?

Why is the prosecution bringing this up? Shouldn't the defense be using this as some sort of insanity plea?

AceHigh · « **Reply #9 on:** June 07, 2012, 03:39:13 PM »

At least you guys don't have your local newspapers flooded with tons of articles that are written as soon as Anders so much as sneezes.

This trial is already a ridiculously long one, no need to use more of our tax-payer's money on nonsense that will not affect the outcome in any way at all. Fuck, we already know the outcome: He will get maximum sentence of 21 years and when his time is served, he will get another 5 years of "containment" which will be renewed as long as he is deemed a danger to society. Being a killing spree record holder, he will be deemed a danger to society for as long as he lives and thus will effectively get an imprisonment for life.

Anyway I can use such logic as well as the media:
Breivik founded a company, thus all CEOs are potential murderers
Breivik was voting for "Progressive party", thus all who vote for them are potential terrorists (actually media over here tried to play that angle, the Progressive party actually had a decline in votes)
One of Breivik's friends was a Muslim. That surelly means that befriending Muslims will turn you into a right wing extremists

(oh the hypocrisy!)
... and I could keep going with a list from his favourite food to favourite vacation spots (yes that is the extent of the annoying media coverage of him over here)

Nowadays it's more common to play video games, than not. I would love to bitchslap those reporters for being such retards after I bitchslap Breivik himself for failing to assassinate the actual politicians (especially that bitch that partially sold us over to EU through EFTA agreement), instead killing irrelevant targets.

megido-rev.M · « **Reply #10 on:** June 08, 2012, 01:38:56 AM »

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"He does not seem to be very successful at distinguishing between the virtual reality of 'World of Warcraft' and other video games and reality," Eriksen said.

And he's definitely the ideal representation for all gamers

. /sarcasm

Hadouken · « **Reply #11 on:** June 08, 2012, 01:43:11 AM »

Quote from: Muk666 on June 07, 2012, 02:52:31 PM

Would be great if they would make it illegal to sell certain games to kids under 18, then they would have to start blaming the parents like they should have from the start =P

This doesn't do anything. Fail parents still blame video games for their children being fuckups.

Tatsujin · « **Reply #12 on:** June 08, 2012, 02:05:03 AM »

I played WoW longer than him everyday for like 3-4+ years and I'm perfectly fine. I still play WoW because it's that good ... only when you're playing with friends - the game's content (not classes) is boring after a while without an update.

Quote from: Soryon on June 07, 2012, 02:08:31 PM

Who cares. WoW and its community are garbage anyway. Only slightly less trashy then anyone who would try to link it to murder.

Haters gonna hate.

Scudworth · « **Reply #13 on:** June 08, 2012, 03:06:56 PM »

The politicians are right. As we all know there was no such thing as murder before video games came around. In fact I'm pretty sure that violence itself was invented for the first video games.
Look at what we've done to the world...

Havoc10K · « **Reply #14 on:** June 10, 2012, 11:16:05 AM »

It's easier to blame the violence in games for violent outbursts of some people than admit that the society is getting desperate because they can't do anything else, government will put the blame on something unrelated and will make it related just to redirect focus from something that actually matters.

Not the first and not the last time.

If games were really the source of all the violence, i fear the day all gamers start ganking politicians.
or maybe, i'm gonna buy a crate of beer and enjoy the politics for once when that happens.

Bob2004 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 10, 2012, 01:12:49 PM »

This and then this do an excellent job of saying pretty much everything I'd like to say about this case, and more. Well worth a read, for those who care about this farce.

lapa321 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 10, 2012, 02:10:58 PM »

Still waiting for article proclaiming angry birds as the source of all evil.

PS: If he was emulating WoW, he'd be killing his neighbors pets for weeks before trying his luck on PvP.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #17 on:** June 10, 2012, 02:12:23 PM »

Interestingly enough, they stay away from Warhammer 40k

lapa321 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 10, 2012, 02:19:08 PM »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/the-lay-scientist/2012/may/21/1?CMP=twt_fd

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On June 6th, 1984, the Russian video game Tetris was released, in which players had to build a wall. On June 12th, 1987 - days after the game's third anniversary - President Reagan demanded that Mikhail Gorbachev, "Tear down this wall!" Nobody can disprove that Reagan was an avid player of the game, and it seems almost inevitable that three frustrating years trying to build walls out of misaligned bricks led to the outburst that changed the course of history.

Tetris!

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #19 on:** June 10, 2012, 02:25:08 PM »

Quote from: Havoc10K on June 10, 2012, 02:12:23 PM

Interestingly enough, they stay away from Warhammer 40k

Yeah, it's really ironic that politicians know nothing about the really violent games like Warhammer 40K/Postal/Fallout/etc.

It's always GTA/WoW... WoW is rated Teen while GTA is not anymore violent than any one mature rated movie.