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Nintendo's Stock Drops After Lackluster E3
Nikkoru:
People seem to confuse "hardcore" games with bloodshed and adult content now. Hardcore gaming is not about ending every level in a thick pool of your enemies' blood, looking at the poorly rendered approximation of cleavage, or Micheal Bay style explosions every cutscene. These are just -- well -- what they are. Nintendo had a seemingly endless stream of games which were and still are genuinely hard. In the "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here" school of gaming. Then, they stopped. Hard was getting three stars instead of two, not about reaching the end of the game.
Still, running down hallways, killing everyone in the room, and then watching a cutscene -- rinse, repeat -- is not a hardcore game, however jobless monomaniacs with limited vocabularies make the multiplayer.
vicious796:
--- Quote from: Nikkoru on June 11, 2012, 02:49:59 PM ---People seem to confuse "hardcore" games with bloodshed and adult content now. Hardcore gaming is not about ending every level in a thick pool of your enemies' blood, looking at the poorly rendered approximation of cleavage, or Micheal Bay style explosions every cutscene. These are just -- well -- what they are. Nintendo had a seemingly endless stream of games which were and still are genuinely hard. In the "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here" school of gaming. Then, they stopped. Hard was getting three stars instead of two, not about reaching the end of the game.
Still, running down hallways, killing everyone in the room, and then watching a cutscene -- rinse, repeat -- is not a hardcore game, however jobless monomaniacs with limited vocabularies make the multiplayer.
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It's not a matter of people misunderstanding what a hardcore gamer is - it's the market. Right now, the market dictates that FPS games are the "hardcore" and dedicating hours and hours to them - and buying their constant DLC packs - is what is going to be considered "hardcore".
GoGeTa006:
To me hardcore gamers can only become hardcore gamers if they play competitive games, I mean some guy that plays 24/7 GTA or FF or some non-online-competitive-game (thats why all new games are comming out with online play)
thats where I made my point, consoles are slowly becoming computers just because they noticed that "real gaming" is in the internet, where real competition is. and REAL competitive games are extremely popular
TBH If Wii would've done a better job with the Wii connection they would have gathered so much more audience, I mean I've played Smash Bros Brawl online and its the worst thing you can do. . .because Smash Bros is a game that requires at the most (exaggerating probably) 50 ms response time, and I was playing with prolly over 200 ms ping, which is fatal in such a game, I dont mind it in mario kart and stuff, but Smash brothers is probably the most competitive game out there from nintendo.
I digress, Gaming is in the internet, and the best way to go to the internet is in a PC, end of story.
but yeah, as vicious said, its not about what is gaming and what is not, its about sales, and fat kids without a job buy, so thats where its at :P
SirSkyRider:
I think in a few years console gaming will probably become a niche or completely obsolete.
@GoGeTa006: Sorry, but I strongly disagree. Hardcore gaming means the maximum affinity to gaming and spending a large sum of your time on playing video games.
vicious796:
--- Quote from: SirSkyRider on June 12, 2012, 11:56:34 AM ---I think in a few years console gaming will probably become a niche or completely obsolete.
@GoGeTa006: Sorry, but I strongly disagree. Hardcore gaming means the maximum affinity to gaming and spending a large sum of your time on playing video games.
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All evidence points to the contrary on both fronts. Consoles offer more than PC games do for the average person. They are DVD and Bluray players, they require little-to-no upgrades (both an expense issue and a knowledge issue), and the major 3rd party game manufacturers all design and build their big budget games for consoles with, more often than not, the PC being a port and/or afterthought. With increases in wireless speed and technology mixed in with the tech boosts the consoles are sure to receive every 5 years, there is no reason to consider them as pending on obsolete. I'd go so far to say that the only reason this console span has been so long is because of the recession. If Microsoft and Sony thought they'd have a selling market 2 years ago, they would have designed and shipped.
Also, I agree with your thought of what a hardcore gamer is, however that's not what the market dictates today. PC gaming is niche, right now. I work in a small office and there are 5 of us that are males under 35. Of those 5, all have at least 1 console that they play regularly but only I am a PC gamer. This is and has been the standard for the last 20 years. Nothing has changed.
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