Author Topic: The Playstation Store is a Goldmine (Read 1187 times)

vicious796 · « **on:** June 11, 2012, 06:07:54 PM »

I don't know if any of you have looked at the PS1 classics recently, but dear God. There's at least 10 games in there that I would (or have) spent good money on. I don't even think about it as I click on them - like Chrono Cross last night - and it isn't until the day after that I realize I spent 10 bucks on a 13 year old game. Still, there are some timeless classics in there. Anybody else give into their guilty pleasures and thrown down 10 bucks or so for a game a decade gone?

Rizirdo · « **Reply #1 on:** June 11, 2012, 06:32:45 PM »

i love the PSN store. i don't use CDs anymore all my games are on my HDD. got my self some classic arcade games, and new ones. like Samurai Showdown. but i recammend anyone to by from PSN everythings cheaper. and no sratches

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zherok · « **Reply #2 on:** June 11, 2012, 11:26:30 PM »

I still owned most of my PSX RPGs, and with emulation as good as it is (and my PS3 sharing the same display as my computer) I haven't made the plunge. My DS though, yeah I've bought older games (Chrono Trigger, etc.)

Ashall · « **Reply #3 on:** June 12, 2012, 04:43:58 AM »

Yeah PSN's great but I would like to see more than 18~ PS2 games on there for sale. But yeah 10 dollar classics are much more fun than some (er most) of the recent 60 dollar games. And way cheaper than a physical copy. I only have 10 dollars left on my account, trying to decide whether to get C Cross or C Trigger... Decisions, decisions.

FlyinPenguin · « **Reply #4 on:** June 12, 2012, 06:27:19 AM »

Why not just buy a used PS1 for $20 and throw in a mod chip?

I love my old modded PS1. You can't go wrong with free classics.

zherok · « **Reply #5 on:** June 12, 2012, 06:41:22 AM »

Quote from: FlyinPenguin on June 12, 2012, 06:27:19 AM

Why not just buy a used PS1 for $20 and throw in a mod chip?

I love my old modded PS1. You can't go wrong with free classics.

Why not emulate it, at that point? No fussing with CD-Rs.

FlyinPenguin · « **Reply #6 on:** June 12, 2012, 06:52:41 AM »

Quote from: zherok on June 12, 2012, 06:41:22 AM

Quote from: FlyinPenguin on June 12, 2012, 06:27:19 AM
Why not just buy a used PS1 for $20 and throw in a mod chip?

I love my old modded PS1. You can't go wrong with free classics.
Why not emulate it, at that point? No fussing with CD-Rs.

Good point as well!

I have a modded PS1 so I didn't even think about emulation. I have tried out PS1 emulators on both Windows and Linux and they work pretty damn well. I just use my PS1 since I already have it and I am nostalgic for the PS1 days so using original hardware makes it that much more enjoyable for me.

Ashall · « **Reply #7 on:** June 12, 2012, 06:56:52 AM »

I can understand pirating movies and tv shows since you can say it's almost the same as recording something on your tv. But pirating video games is just sad. But I guess if you're too incredibly broke, it's fine... But damn if you love the game ten bucks is an incredibly fair price. Just buy the damn thing...

FlyinPenguin · « **Reply #8 on:** June 12, 2012, 07:12:18 AM »

Quote from: Ashall on June 12, 2012, 06:56:52 AM

I can understand pirating movies and tv shows since you can say it's almost the same as recording something on your tv. But pirating video games is just sad. But I guess if you're too incredibly broke, it's fine... But damn if you love the game ten bucks is an incredibly fair price. Just buy the damn thing...

It's more of a why bother to buy a port of an original when I can just download the original for free type of deal.

Having the original gives me far more freedom. I am not limited to running the damn thing on the console it was ported to but am able to run on it the original system, cell phone, tablet, other consoles, computer, and even the system it was ported to using emulation. Let me have all that for $10 and I will gladly fork over the cash.

Ashall · « **Reply #9 on:** June 12, 2012, 08:11:58 AM »

If you game that much you need to see a therapist. Anyway PSPs are cheap and you can transfer games to and fro a PS3. And if you don't have a PS3 you chose the wrong next-gen console. Anyway what I was trying to get at if you like the game, support the people that made it.

If you like it buy it, simple as that.

I mean it's t-e-n dollars... People can be so incredibly stingy...

zherok · « **Reply #10 on:** June 12, 2012, 08:35:32 AM »

Quote from: Ashall on June 12, 2012, 06:56:52 AM

I can understand pirating movies and tv shows since you can say it's almost the same as recording something on your tv. But pirating video games is just sad. But I guess if you're too incredibly broke, it's fine... But damn if you love the game ten bucks is an incredibly fair price. Just buy the damn thing...

I imagine if you're doing it for one type of media you're really just trying to excuse yourself if you abstain from another type. It's piracy regardless. And kind of ridiculous to argue on an anime swapping website.

Most anime isn't likely to show up on any TV the majority of us have access to, and the physical media (especially Japanese Blu-rays) are a hell of a lot more expensive than what we pay for brand new localized games (nevermind 10-20 year old ones like these.)

Regardless, as I suggested in my first post in the thread, emulators for disc-based consoles work with the original discs (at least, I've yet to run into one that wouldn't accept actual discs; though you could just make your own ISO from the real deal.) You don't have to bootleg anything to emulate them.

At this point a PS2 emulator runs better than my actual PS2 does, thanks to a dying laser. And the 23" monitor I use is better than the 20" TV I'd have to use. Hell, you can even bump the texture resolution up and have the games looking better than they would on the actual hardware.

Ashall · « **Reply #11 on:** June 12, 2012, 08:49:41 AM »

Yeah because I'm so blatantly against it... I just don't understand why Penguin thinks ten dollars for a great game is so much money. But I'm done with this thread, it obviously isn't about great things to buy but rather, why when I can just pirate it.

Also zherok your argument is valid but honestly are seriously paying for physical copies of PS1 games to play on your computer? Doesn't sound advantageous for you financially opposed to 9.99 download from PSN. Have you even seen the prices for most classics on Amazon and Ebay?

zherok · « **Reply #12 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:02:53 AM »

Quote from: Ashall on June 12, 2012, 08:49:41 AM

Also zherok your argument is valid but honestly are seriously paying for physical copies of PS1 games to play on your computer? Doesn't sound advantageous for you financially opposed to 9.99 download from PSN. Have you even seen the prices for most classics on Amazon and Ebay?

I usually keep them in iso format since it's easier to play them that way emulated than it is to bother with the discs. But as I stated in my first post, I HAVE most of my original PSX games (as well as my PS2 ones.)

So no, I wouldn't like buying a physical copy of say, Suikoden II just to play it on my computer. But I already own one, so I don't have to (sadly not on PSN anyway, though the first is, apparently.) I'm not saying you shouldn't buy them on PSN, just the "why are you bootlegging games" argument sounds silly on bakabt, and I suggested that you don't have to be pirating anything just because you're playing them emulated.

Ashall · « **Reply #13 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:24:27 AM »

Well I was never addressing you or emulation. I sadly scratched or sold all my PSX games a long time ago. So for me to rebuild my library, PSN is perfect. Yeah not all games are on there but most of the good ones are. Compare buying FF VII from Ebay and PSN if you want to see my point.

Yeah the pirating video game argument was silly but I just couldn't stop laughing from him not willing to pay 10 dollars for a game that will last quite awhile before he finishes it. I was pretty vague (now reads back) at first but I was talking about pirating PS1 classics not video games in general.

Also I might look into PS2 emulation since my PS2 is getting old. What's a good emulator that reads disc, because I'm a bit too lazy to dump them as ISOs. And my PS3 isn't backwards compatible which I still have a hard time getting over.

FlyinPenguin · « **Reply #14 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:27:21 AM »

Quote from: Ashall on June 12, 2012, 08:11:58 AM

If you game that much you need to see a therapist. Anyway PSPs are cheap and you can transfer games to and fro a PS3. And if you don't have a PS3 you chose the wrong next-gen console. Anyway what I was trying to get at if you like the game, support the people that made it.

If you like it buy it, simple as that.

I mean it's t-e-n dollars... People can be so incredibly stingy...

Again, it's simply about choice not finances. It's not that I nor anyone else spends that much time gaming, but rather I want the choice to choose my platform. Why would I buy a ported game simply for that single console? Let's remove the piracy for a second and simply make this a matter of choice. I can buy most original Playstation games for $10 give or take (obviously excluding rare titles). Doing so gives me a ridiculous amount of choice as to which platform I play it on. Why should i pay $10 on the PSN network for a single platform port when I can either buy it used for the same price (which btw does not contribute to the original developer but only the individual who is selling the used copy) or get it for free? So I can buy it used and deprive the original developer or pirate it which deprives the original developer (same end result). But why in the hell would I buy from the original developer only to be restricted in the way I play the game?

My whole point is the PSN network's classics are not nearly the "value" you think they are, just the XBox Live's classics are not nearly the "value" others think they are.

Ashall · « **Reply #15 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:36:03 AM »

If you actually read the posts between me and zherok this is done. I'm done arguing with a brick wall. Do whatever makes you happy. And if you think most of the classics are 10 dollars physically you don't know what you're talking about.

I'm talking new quality. Not some used scratched copy.

zherok · « **Reply #16 on:** June 12, 2012, 09:49:05 AM »

Quote from: Ashall on June 12, 2012, 09:24:27 AM

Yeah not all games are on there but most of the good ones are. Compare buying FF VII from Ebay and PSN if you want to see my point.

Suikoden II still isn't. =/

One nice thing for those games in particular with emulation (or the actual hardware, of course) is you can do the save file transfer into the second game. And I assume (though I haven't tried it) you could PROBABLY get away with it for transferring the second game's save data into three (Suikoden 3 was probably one of the only games that supported PSX data transferred onto a PS2 memory card.) That's a bit more convoluted though.

Thought about picking up Symphony of the Night. That's been up on PSN for ages now I think.

Quote from: Ashall on June 12, 2012, 09:24:27 AM

Also I might look into PS2 emulation since my PS2 is getting old. What's a good emulator that reads disc, because I'm a bit too lazy to dump them as ISOs. And my PS3 isn't backwards compatible which I still have a hard time getting over.

So far as I know, PCSX2 is the only working PS2 emulator. You'll need to get BIOS for it, somehow.

I recommend the SVN versions, they're pretty stable, and a decent performance leap over the release candidate.

FlyinPenguin · « **Reply #17 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:11:37 AM »

Quote from: Ashall on June 12, 2012, 09:36:03 AM

If you actually read the posts between me and zherok this is done. I'm done arguing with a brick wall. Do whatever makes you happy. And if you think most of the classics are 10 dollars physically you don't know what you're talking about.

I'm talking new quality. Not some used scratched copy.

I read the posts but you saying "This is done, I am done arguing with a brick wall" doesn't win you an argument so I chose to ignore it since I felt it had little relevance to this debate.

And like I said, give or take for the classics. I said excluding the rare titles. That said, lets not forget we can get some of the greatest hits versions pretty damn cheap. Hell, I can even get FF VII for $10 on half.com (http://product.half.ebay.com/Final-Fantasy-VII-Sony-PlayStation-1-1997/2434&tg=videtails&item=342876960330) It may be the greatest hits but if you are buying on PSN, I doubt you care about that to begin with.

And yes, I will do whatever makes me happy. I have standards and won't be duped.

Ashall · « **Reply #18 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:17:51 AM »

I'm not trying to win, child. I'm just done.

Factor in shipping and the time your waiting, I'd still say PSN is better. And that isn't new.. Digital won't ever break (unless your console does) and I've never came across a bug that wasn't on the disc to begin with.

Hm Can you redownload things of PSN if your console does break? I've never tried, though when I used to have a 360 I think you could as long as it was the same account.

zherok · « **Reply #19 on:** June 12, 2012, 10:45:03 AM »

A quick googling seems to imply it's tied to the account and not just the system. Haven't tested it personally either though.