The Playstation Store is a Goldmine

[FlyinPenguin]

I'm not trying to win, child. I'm just done.

Factor in shipping and the time your waiting, I'd still say PSN is better. And that isn't new.. Digital won't ever break (unless your console does) and I've never came across a bug that wasn't on the disc to begin with.

Hm Can you redownload things of PSN if your console does break? I've never tried, though when I used to have a 360 I think you could as long as it was the same account.

Only children resort to name calling over what should be a courteous debate

You say you aren't trying to win but indirectly claim a victory on the pretense I refuse to listen to (your) reason but yet you refuse to argue the individual refutations I make against your original counter to my argument.

As for wait time, sure it takes a few days to get the physical copy but I am pretty sure (I may be wrong though) if you own a physical copy, you are legally allowed to download a digital copy as a backup (at the very least, they aren't going to waste their time on you). So if you don't want to wait for your copy to arrive, you can always download it while you wait. Even if it is technically illegal, I'm pretty sure you are morally fine.

If your PS3 breaks, you are screwed for playing your port. If you own an original copy or pirated copy on the original system, you can still play it on any number of other platforms.

Again, how is buying a port on PSN better than having a copy on the original platform?

As far as redownloading is concerned, I would imagine you can redownload provided you use the same account.

[Ashall]

No I think they changed that law in the U.S. at least. Even if you own a physical copy it isn't legal to download a back up. Yay~ Capitalism.

Seriously though what more do need than a ps3 and psp to play ps1 classics. Unless you have to take games with you when ever you leave your residence. It's not as limiting as you make it seem.

Idc about winning or losing this. I just want to discuss the games on PSN. This is what the topic is supposed to be about anyway. You still ignore whenever I say New copy vs PSN copy price-wise. So just drop it. I said you're a child because you continue to act like one. Don't make it seem like I'm calling you something offensive or vulgar.

[FlyinPenguin]

No I think they changed that law in the U.S. at least. Even if you own a physical copy it isn't legal to download a back up. Yay~ Capitalism.

Seriously though what more do need than a ps3 and psp to play ps1 classics. Unless you have to take games with you when ever you leave your residence. It's not as limiting as you make it seem.

Idc about winning or losing this. I just want to discuss the games on PSN. This is what the topic is supposed to be about anyway. You still ignore whenever I say New copy vs PSN copy price-wise. So just drop it. I said you're a child because you continue to act like one. Don't make it seem like I'm calling you something offensive or vulgar.

If they changed the law then I raise the BS flag on the US govt. I still know I am morally ok.

Are "PS1 classics" compatible on both the PSP and PS3? If you buy a port for the PS3 do you also get one for the PSP?

You can't talk about "PS1 classics" on the PSN network without also addressing the downfalls of the ports and alternative delivery systems (and the same goes for Xbox Live delivering original XBox games).

I was never under the impression we were talking about New copy vs PSN copy price-wise. I don't think I ever said a new copy costs $10. I know I linked to a used copy of FF VII. Perhaps I missed the point at which you shifted the conversation from used copies to new. Considering you are purchasing a digital copy, I never thought you would even consider a new copy. I mean, in the end, if the game works, isn't that all that matters for you?

And I am not making it seem like you called me something offensive or vulgar. You simply resorted to calling me a child. I take no offense. I was simply pointing out your hypocrisy.

[vicious796]

A quick googling seems to imply it's tied to the account and not just the system. Haven't tested it personally either though.

It is, in fact, tied to the account and not the console. A friend of mine has logged in on my PS3 and my games disappeared but I had access to download his games. There's probably a console "soft cap", though, to avoid people "beating the system".

Please, guys, just chill. I didn't mean for this to be a piracy debate - just a simple "how awesome is this store?" for those of us who use it.

[Ashall]

Yeah and Penguin has already stated he doesn't use it so why is he here, idk.  tehehe Yes I was always talking about New copies not old used ones with scratches. The whole point of what I was saying it is much cheaper to rebuild a PSX library through PSN than a vendor selling new physical copies. Pretty sure I dropped the whole piracy point quite a few posts ago.

Anyway I got Chrono Cross as well, can't wait to replay that tehehe

Oh btw Penguin they are compatible and transferable. You can move save files to and fro as well. The Vita is also going to be able to play ps1 classics.

[FlyinPenguin]

Yeah and Penguin has already stated he doesn't use it so why is he here, idk.  tehehe Yes I was always talking about New copies not old used ones with scratches. The whole point of what I was saying it is much cheaper to rebuild a PSX library through PSN than a vendor selling new physical copies. Pretty sure I dropped the whole piracy point quite a few posts ago.

Anyway I got Chrono Cross as well, can't wait to replay that tehehe

Oh btw Penguin they are compatible and transferable. You can move save files to and fro as well. The Vita is also going to be able to play ps1 classics.

Sorry, I tend to take an interest in things even if I am not a user, just because I like to stay abreast on what is happening in the technology world. I listen to an IPod podcast every week even though I don't use any IOS devices (Android guy).

I guess we were arguing slightly different points. No biggie.

It's good to know you can transfer between devices. For some reason I have a feeling if Microsoft had a handheld, they would make you buy the game twice. 

[Ashall]

^ You just need a decent sized memory stick. I think I only have 16Gb but that's the biggest Sony makes them. But you can just delete and recopy at a later time if you want to play it again. Just keep the save files if you were in the middle of a playthrough.

I don't think Microsoft could compete with the Vita and the D.S. Plus the hardware would most likely be crap and we'd have the whole red ring of death thing all over again. I hope for all the 360 players out there that your next console (whatever it's called) won't have the problems the 360 had when it first came out.

Also I guess they made the Vita compatible with PS3 games made to be compatible with the Vita. I don't have a Vita to verify but my brother was talking about it. I don't know how well the graphics are handled, but you can do it I guess. Does anyone have a Vita here, to confirm?

[Saras]

If you game that much you need to see a therapist. Anyway PSPs are cheap and you can transfer games to and fro a PS3. And if you don't have a PS3 you chose the wrong next-gen console. Anyway what I was trying to get at if you like the game, support the people that made it.

If you like it buy it, simple as that.

I mean it's t-e-n dollars... People can be so incredibly stingy...

Yes.

However, I do not own a PS3, a PSP or as a matter of fact a TV. While I'm not short on cash, I do not really entertain the thought of getting a whole brand new system to play decade old games.

Now then, get the lot on steam and I'd be more than willing to buy 10 or so titles for ~10 bucks each.

[Ashall]

Then why are you even in this thread? I'm not going to go tell you to buy a system, so what do you want from me? Damn man... Do want me to tell you to do what zherok does? Rip the disc and play it on your computer? But that's way to expensive to do nowadays so go and be a pirate. I just find it sad when you do have access to PSN, you can't shell out 10 dollars for something you love. That's all; Sorry I rubbed you the wrong way with a two day old post.

[Takeshi]

I don't know if any of you have looked at the PS1 classics recently, but dear God. There's at least 10 games in there that I would (or have) spent good money on. I don't even think about it as I click on them - like Chrono Cross last night - and it isn't until the day after that I realize I spent 10 bucks on a 13 year old game. Still, there are some timeless classics in there. Anybody else give into their guilty pleasures and thrown down 10 bucks or so for a game a decade gone?

Yup, already bought Final Fantasy VI to IX, Vagarant Story and some Crash Bandicoot games too. I'd like to get access to some of your games though, that is something I'd like to see change.

The real reason why it's good is because of PSN+. Bought a three-month-period and I've already gotten free games such as all the Crash Bandicoot games (only bought 1 and 3), Trine 2, Shift 2 Unleashed, Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus. Then we got such games as Space Marine, Infamous 2, Darksiders, plus many more I can't remember after the Sony conference. And there are more incoming. Add them to your download list, and you'll be able to download them always as long as your PSN+ subscription is active.

[Ashall]

^ I'm still torn about whether or not to get PSN+... I mean it's a good value if stay on top of the deals and free games but you do have to keep paying for it for the rest of your life. If you want to keep playing them.

Btw you can do what I do, just make an account saying you live in the U.S. Then buy U.S. dollar cards off some site. I do this for JPN games and DLC.

[Takeshi]

^ I'm still torn about whether or not to get PSN+... I mean it's a good value if stay on top of the deals and free games but you do have to keep paying for it for the rest of your life. If you want to keep playing them.

It's basically a really good rental service. They're not supposed to be games you can play forever. And I doubt PSN+ is going to last that long. it's great for games you know you'll only play once.

Btw you can do what I do, just make an account saying you live in the U.S. Then buy U.S. dollar cards off some site. I do this for JPN games and DLC.

Of course. I'll try that out, thanks. I already do it for the Japanese PSN though it rarely has much to offer that I don't already have from the European PSN.