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Do They Really Not Make Them Like They Used To?

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Saras:

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--- Quote from: Ashall on June 12, 2012, 07:26:46 PM ---Hmm it seems like we all want them to reinvent the wheel or completely regurgitate the classics. It's the same for books and movies now as well. (I don't know about television since I don't watch it). It's hard to make something new. And even harder to get people to like what is new. An example would be Okami, if any of you played it, you also probably know it was a commercial disaster when it was first released despite being an amazing game.

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Its not that I want them to simply throw out the same games that they were "bakc-in-the-day", its just that that is the only way I can foresee any decent RPGs being made. Solving the key problems would be enough (games lack spirit, insult my intelligence, and and aren't as rewarding), but even then, I'm not a fan of these new breeds of action RPGs. The hack and slash seen in NWN is fine, so long as the battle remains tactics oriented, as opposed to beating shit up. I want new games, but I also realize that with this new generation of gamers, that won't happen in the RPG market. That's why I just want them to remake old games.

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You should give the indie market a go. Some of the stuff there is well within Nintendo/Battletoads level of difficulty.

nstgc:

--- Quote from: Saras on June 12, 2012, 08:05:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: nstgc on June 12, 2012, 07:59:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ashall on June 12, 2012, 07:26:46 PM ---Hmm it seems like we all want them to reinvent the wheel or completely regurgitate the classics. It's the same for books and movies now as well. (I don't know about television since I don't watch it). It's hard to make something new. And even harder to get people to like what is new. An example would be Okami, if any of you played it, you also probably know it was a commercial disaster when it was first released despite being an amazing game.

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Its not that I want them to simply throw out the same games that they were "bakc-in-the-day", its just that that is the only way I can foresee any decent RPGs being made. Solving the key problems would be enough (games lack spirit, insult my intelligence, and and aren't as rewarding), but even then, I'm not a fan of these new breeds of action RPGs. The hack and slash seen in NWN is fine, so long as the battle remains tactics oriented, as opposed to beating shit up. I want new games, but I also realize that with this new generation of gamers, that won't happen in the RPG market. That's why I just want them to remake old games.

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You should give the indie market a go. Some of the stuff there is well within Nintendo/Battletoads level of difficulty.

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Oh I do. I mostly buy indie games now. If you read my post a bit ago you'll see that I explicitly exclude indie games, and mention how indie games, with digital distribution, are maturing into something major.

Yeah, indie games are good. I am sad when they fail though. Five Pillar, the indie company that made Winter Voices, went bankrupt before they finished their game series. Additionally they were planning an MMORPG. I would have loved to have seen what they could have done. Winter's voices felt fresh, and definitely was a challenge. I just recently purchased the Humble V bundle even though I owned all those games (save for Bastion). The game I'm most looking forward too (well after ME3...shame on me) is Endless Space.

Ashall:
Kids these days don't seem to want to play RPGs anymore. It's all about shooters/racing/sports and their endless clones. At the end of the day it's all about the dollar bill. And the big companies are all over that.

Also I'll be honest I don't like Indie games. Maybe I have bad taste but I don't find them enjoyable. Of course I've only played a handful so what do I know. Maybe I'll look into it again some time.

AceHigh:

--- Quote from: nstgc on June 12, 2012, 07:59:15 PM ---[edit] I just glanced through Steam and it doesn't look like any major companies have actually even made a real RPG in at least 2 years.

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You missed Risen 2? It's right there for sale.

nstgc:

--- Quote from: Ashall on June 12, 2012, 08:17:29 PM ---Kids these days don't seem to want to play RPGs anymore. It's all about shooters/racing/sports and their endless clones. At the end of the day it's all about the dollar bill. And the big companies are all over that.

Also I'll be honest I don't like Indie games. Maybe I have bad taste but I don't find them enjoyable. Of course I've only played a handful so what do I know. Maybe I'll look into it again some time.

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They do tend to lack polish and the graphics typically suck.


--- Quote from: AceHigh on June 12, 2012, 08:18:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: nstgc on June 12, 2012, 07:59:15 PM ---[edit] I just glanced through Steam and it doesn't look like any major companies have actually even made a real RPG in at least 2 years.

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You missed Risen 2? It's right there for sale.

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I also said I was only looking quickly. Even still the number of RPGs being put out isn't what it use to be. Quality isn't the only issue.

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