Encoding software

[Helmet]

@helmet, did you just miss my whole point?

    No, you did. This statement was included in my previous post:

Again, I know the deal and I know, like Bob, that we are not going to change the minds of the encoders on this. But don't feed me Hi10P propaganda, will you (and poor one to boot)?

     What part of it are you incapable to read?

     I know encoders won't go back, etc. Me "bitching about Hi10P" was, at least in the initial posts, basically providing the explanation for my desire to re-encode some of the videos. It would not have gone for several posts more if some people wouldn't have felt some need, for whatever reason, to step in like Ivanhoe and defend the honor of the Hi10P 0 - and with an argumentation which looks like taken from a Borat film.
    Seriously, dude, "hardware players are old technology"? TVs are old technology too and will become junk?

and people who cant play Hi10P shouldn't cling to their ugly rigs anyway. thats what i've been saying.

its the same with the old times, newer softwares needs more hardware power, if this wasn't the case then people wouldn't be needing anything better than a pentium4, and its the same with encodes. how is it same with encodes? AVI/DIVX to Mastroka, when mastroka first got implemented nothing could play it other than a PC.

as for hardware players, they're old technology and they got caught in an evolution. what do you think would happen if H265 gets implemented as a standard? it would be worse off than Hi10P and those old hardware players would become total junks.

     You should take Krudda's advice, really.
     I do not know how h265 will turn off. I do know though that Hi10 existed for at least 7 years already and it had been largely ignored by everyone, untill about 2 years ago when a wave of hype emerged in the anime community.
     High10 IS old technology, as it appeared in March 2005, at the same time with High. While High (up to Level 4.1) is largely supported, Hi10 hasn't caught anyone's fancy for a long time, until quite recently and even then among a small niche segment.

[kitamesume]

Hi10P was largely ignored because nothing could tackle it, but now's hardware technology can easily decode it then encoders jumped to it.

yes the current hardware players ARE old technology, they haven't stepped up in anything at all other than implementing support for other formats and it takes them years to do so.

TV and player is two different things. TV is a screen, whats bundled in them is whats old technology.

[Helmet]

Hi10P was largely ignored because nothing could tackle it, but now's hardware technology can easily decode it then encoders jumped to it.

yes the current hardware players ARE old technology, they haven't stepped up in anything at all other than implementing support for other formats and it takes them years to do so.

TV and player is two different things. TV is a screen, whats bundled in them is whats old technology.

     Dude, this thread was about encoding software. My "bitching about Hi10P" was nothing but providing the context for my interest, yet you dragged me into a stupid argument. Now, do you have something constructive to say on the topic or are you here just to defend Hi10P like a mother bear defends its cubs? I don't care that you think Hi10P is God's gift to man. If that is all you have to offer, then move along.

[kitamesume]

squeeze 8.5
episode 6.3
convertxtodvd
tho i'd say handbrake still the most useful tho.

Edit: tho you'd need to search for them in the torrents, convertxtodvd doesn't support Hi10P yet.
Edit2: episode engine would be my best bet, supports profiles up to 10bit 4:4:4 tho expensive for a legal copy.

[Helmet]

Does XMedia Encode not render UTF-8 subtitles or is just me? Whenever I try to re-encode a video with UTF-8 subs, XMedia Encoder simply refuses to preserve them.

[Krudda]

I think its a glitch in the program. Sometimes it does, other times it does not.
If it doesn't render, what I usually do is an over expectation encode using something like minicoder or avisynth similar to render the subs, then use xmedia recode to "debloat" the file.
Works a charm every time for me

[Helmet]

I think its a glitch in the program. Sometimes it does, other times it does not.
If it doesn't render, what I usually do is an over expectation encode using something like minicoder or avisynth similar to render the subs, then use xmedia recode to "debloat" the file.
Works a charm every time for me

1. What version are you using?

2. Could you elaborate a bit on the above?

[Krudda]

xmedia 3.1.1.0
I haven't bothered to update to 3.1.1.4 since they release an update every frigging 2 weeks.

elaboration:
Download and install minicoder as a back up (previously it was my main re-encoder)
Minicoder always renders the subtitles correctly, as long as you correctly tell it to
The "over expectation settings" are simple, I usually use the following, depending on the source and resolution etc. of course:


CRF is set to 17 - 19 depending on what I am recoding
If you want it for use on a DVD, make sure you set the resolution right though. 704x400 should work, but if you have a larger screen, you may want to adjust that figure, depending on total size. I find 704x400 sufficient on a 32' LCD for DVD quality material
This ensures (most of the time) a decent hardsub to start with.

Next is to re-encode again with whatever program you usually use to make the file AVI and use your normal settings, of course, ignoring the need for subtitles as they are now burnt into the video.
You can try using minicoder to go directly to AVI, but it usually returns a rather large 800mb average for 1 1/2 hour movie (depends on bitrate and other settings)
Freemake video converter is a decent program that can make decent avi at approx 600mb, but it is vbr only, cbr is not available.

[zzzYuyu]

People should just invest some time and learn how to use Avisynth and the x264/XviD command line properly and all your problems will be gone. All those GUIs who magically make stuff just werk are horrible.

[revo]

exactly
Those GUIs just limit programs

[Krudda]

I think AVIsynth was suggested earlier, but the user does not want to learn it.
I agree though, the suggested programs are severely limited, but they do the trick still.