Yay or Nay? The Windows 8 Metro Interface

[megido-rev.M]

I still don't get all the fuss they made about being more security enhanced in Win 7 though. Never got anything in XP and I never paid for anything either. A combination of Avira and Comodo[both freeware] mostly did the trick for me.

XP was always awful when it came down to smooth networking. I moved on to 7 when I somehow figured out how much more stuff I could do on it than I could at all on XP.

Also, MSE.

[Sherlock]

Also, MSE.

Not too sure about Networking, since I didn't do much of it, but MSE[I'm assuming you're referring to MS Security Essentials]? Meh! That thing was an outdated weak security solution. But the only difference was MS packaged it in Win7[I think?], whereas for XP, one had to download it from their website. Didn't make much of a difference either ways..

[Freedom Kira]

Not too sure about Networking, since I didn't do much of it, but MSE[I'm assuming you're referring to MS Security Essentials]? Meh! That thing was an outdated weak security solution.

Back that up, please. I've only ever heard good things about it from people who use it.

But the only difference was MS packaged it in Win7[I think?], whereas for XP, one had to download it from their website. Didn't make much of a difference either ways..

No. Windows 7, like every other Windows OS, comes with no AV installed. Any AV that is installed on your prebuilt laptop/desktop was installed by the manufacturer.

[Sherlock]

Not too sure about Networking, since I didn't do much of it, but MSE[I'm assuming you're referring to MS Security Essentials]? Meh! That thing was an outdated weak security solution.

Back that up, please. I've only ever heard good things about it from people who use it.

Most recently, on a rather new laptop of a friend of mine, he had McAfee[Ew] and MSE installed. Ofcourse, he misused the laptop rather badly, and it got rather slow etc etc. A full scan by MSE wasn't much use at all. Told him to use Avira once for scanning, detected around 7-8 infections un-noticed by MSE, and no, they weren't false positives either. Hence, my statement. Of course, that may just be a localised problem on his side, but that messed up my opinion of it  big time. Oh, and it wasn't just that isolated incident, but others which I have seen on my friends systems previously too.
Sure, it's decent enough when you use it alongside a decent AV software[I did, but I had enough sense not to get my system infected]. Otherwise, it would still be meh, per my opinion.

But the only difference was MS packaged it in Win7[I think?], whereas for XP, one had to download it from their website. Didn't make much of a difference either ways..

No. Windows 7, like every other Windows OS, comes with no AV installed. Any AV that is installed on your prebuilt laptop/desktop was installed by the manufacturer.

Oh.. Well, Either ways, I tend to re-install whatever was provided to suit my needs. I don't prefer having my OS and storage on the same drive. Also, one gets McAfee AV from the manufacturer over here, which I dislike. Even for a new Desktop, I would still go with Linux, if it only weren't for the fact that I would have to emulate games[Wine/VirtualBox]. I would still go with it itself over Winders probably..

[Freedom Kira]

I suspect localized incident. Also, MSE has to be updated periodically like every other AV out there. If a user neglects to do so, it doesn't matter what AV he uses. If you just installed Avira and pulled the latest definitions, you'll be more likely to find stuff that MSE couldn't, if it wasn't kept up-to-date.

Aside from that, you shouldn't run multiple AVs on the same system. It can result in conflicts, and having twice the overhead will also slow down your computer a hell of a lot (McAfee is pretty bad for that).

[occasional]

A few detection tests.

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[kitamesume]

the problem with AVs are the false detections, they've killed my OS a few times, specially kaspersky.

[Shunrai]

I've been using vista for awhile now and the metro blows total ass. i was so angry and i rage for hours trying to figure where everything was like where the eff the pc options and other stuff where like restarting the pc lol. the ribbon ui thing i don't really dislike or do i like it most of the metro apps are useless if you dont have a touch screen they just become clutter not to mention cumbersome and there is no way i can see turning them off unless you kill them from the task manger.now the metro kill it with fire for regular non touch screen users  i was so pissed not having a start button i raged screamed at my monitors going where the eff is the start button  then i found it on the side and i was wtf is is crap i couldn't believe they got rid of the start button. After many hours of pissing around i hackzored my windows 8 i don't rest till i got my start orb back im now happy after hackzoring and hardcore tweaking to get windows how i wanted and turning of pretty much everything that had to do with metro and the new bsod screen seem like windows is saying all its users are stupid with a frowny face for the bsod haven't got one yet but i've screen pics also smart screen and the windows defender make it a litle hard to use crack programs casue it will keep poping up till you get rid of the crack even if you know the crack is ok. I  really dont like that they took away the classic option cause turning of the aero style on 8 just makes the desktop look visually ugly now if i had the classic option that would be my desktop without any wallpapers

Now for things i like:
the faster boot up
the new dual boot screen
not having to use a third party program to get extend taskbar but the third party programs have more functions and features some nice features with them
i love the new lock screen you can change it to anything without hacking it like you had to with xp ,vista and 7
i like the improved performance with things less ram usage faster transfers among other things
i like that it use my other devices and knows what they are like my tv,phone, and combo printer fax scanner
i like the windows media player for music the player grabs all info on missing tracks its kinda creepy even when the track info is wrong or almost non existent  like anime music for example some of my music is label by anime it finds where the song was from and what album. i also have a lot of regular j-music like nami tamaki not just her anime music and finds all of it
i like how the taskbar changes color with the wallpaper

inmho windows 8 is a mixed bag alot of hackzoring and tweaking and piss around is needed if you don't have a touch interface there are good things and bad things kinda leaves windows 8 in the middle of not being good nor bad you just have to take time pissing around with it. im getting a free full copy of the final verson so i will use it but i will keep my dual boot my win 7 and my other nix distros along with my pcbsd that im effing around with . If i had to grade 8 i say c/c- so its  slightly below average untill you get it the way you want then is average but the metro is the thing that lowers it big time unless you have a touchscreen metro is rather useless. There is something i want to ry with windows 8 but i haven't but i do like the idea behind it you can log in to somebody else pc that has windows 8 and get your desktop without having to use some other program i would really like to try this but i haven't gotten to yet if anybody has uses this feature/ function i'd liked to hear about it and what thoughts you have.

now people qqing about privacy and other issues with it its all bs google and apple do the same thing you so worried about it stop using google don't use a smart phone don't use facebook google+ or anything of like including things like twitter. google m$ apple those companies want to know everything they want to track you so if you use one of them they already now everything just like if you have android google knows what you're doing same with m$ you have their smart phone they already know what your doing so no point crying about it if you like your smartphone same thing for facebook and twitter you're worried about all the privacy stuff don't use it facebook tracks everything so does twitter and another thing read all of the agreements before for anything before clicking yes then qqing about it they tell you what they are doing in those and if you don't like it don't use it now if you use and still don't like it its on you.

[Belmakar]

^You seriously need to get familiar with punctuation marks...

I think the modern style UI part of win8 isn't that bad (except for it's name)... Sure, it takes a while to get accustomed to it and to find all features, but it definitely isn't bad. I particularly like the new, much cleaner start menu (or home screen)... I don't have to sift through a complex folder structure to find a particular program (or 250 unordered links), i just scroll to the right to the desired category (Sound utils, for example) and have the desired apps right there regardless of if the app uses winrt or not.

[kitamesume]

o.o now that i think of it, how would windows 8 fair as an HTPC OS, i know theres already a few dedicated OSes there but i still like LAV+MadVR XD
also i wonder if you could disable most of the features to bare-naked.

[Shunrai]

^You seriously need to get familiar with punctuation marks...

most likely but just typing is so much cooler lol

[Freedom Kira]

most likely but just typing is so much cooler lol

Not for your readers. If you want people to spend time reading what you've written, you had better spend time making it readable. Golden rule.

[Logiick]

A bunch of my "Nay".

Metro would be fine if they didn't force you to use it. Then it would just be W7 with a couple more features.
I understand that they want to make it seamless with tablets and stuff, but I can't understand their choice to force you to use it.

[kitamesume]

if they made it toggle-able and falls back to goo'ol windows desktop GUI then sure it wouldn't be so bad.

[megido-rev.M]

lol 4 people voted 'yes'.

[metro.]

A bunch of my "Nay".

Metro would be fine if they didn't force you to use it. Then it would just be W7 with a couple more features.
I understand that they want to make it seamless with tablets and stuff, but I can't understand their choice to force you to use it.

They'll be work arounds.

Also, please don't be like my friend that thinks there's going to be a Linux push due to W8. Because that's just plain dumb.

[megido-rev.M]

A Linux push is really unlikely.

[Bob2004]

A Linux push is really unlikely.

Unless Valve announce the release of the Linux port of Steam at around the same time (which is a possibility, though given Valve's tendency to take their sweet time doing stuff, maybe not a huge one). Then it's only rather unlikely.

[metro.]

A Linux push is really unlikely.

Unless Valve announce the release of the Linux port of Steam at around the same time (which is a possibility, though given Valve's tendency to take their sweet time doing stuff, maybe not a huge one). Then it's only rather unlikely.

The valve thing is what made my friend think others will do it.

The issue, is that getting the masses to use Linux is going to be difficult, to say the least.

[Logiick]

A bunch of my "Nay".

Metro would be fine if they didn't force you to use it. Then it would just be W7 with a couple more features.
I understand that they want to make it seamless with tablets and stuff, but I can't understand their choice to force you to use it.

They'll be work arounds.

Also, please don't be like my friend that thinks there's going to be a Linux push due to W8. Because that's just plain dumb.

Oh God, I don't believe that at all.
I'm thinking the majority of people are just going to stick with W7, like when "Shitsta" came out and everyone just stuck with XP.