Western Digital or Seagate

[raandomer]

I don't think i'll be moving it around much... More like from My table to the almirah
The enclosures are a problem though...
I don't know where to get one from... Or how should one be

No, I dont mean to get an enclosure and whatnot, just whack it in the computer and be done with it. Plus its easier to diagnose if something goes wrong. I really dont understand why people would buy an external for intensive (ie 24/7 seeding) usage when the cheaper option (shoving a 3.5 in the pc) is faster + safer. And you have those power cords/psu flying everywhere

[Dhruv]

^well shoving it in a computer is a better option but you need one for it...
I have a laptop... There are 2 internals which i can use like this.. Caviar Green & AV-GP
Red can also be used but that is an NAS drive...
For external i'd take Elements anyday...
All Of them come in 3TB capacity and i need storage...
If i need performance i'd look no further than velociraptor.
All Of them are western digital drives.. I already have a seagate but seagate is shit and i was lucky enough to get a drive from their last good batch

[raandomer]

^well shoving it in a computer is a better option but you need one for it...
I have a laptop...

seeding + laptop doesnt go together either, you really should get a low powered headless itx as a seedbox/media sever (even a raspberry pi/torrent enabled router would easily work)

seagate is shit

so is wd, samsung(now owned by seagate), hatachi, etc
they all have doa/bad drives, its the nature of consumer level hard drives. I've been through many drives from many companies and i can say they all have pretty much equal chance of failing (obviously i'm comparing drives with similar tech and similar workloads/operating conditions). There are only very rare cases where a complete line has high failure rate: the seagate 7200.11 firmware, wd green drives in raid, ibm deathstars (~2001 if i remember correctly)

[Keitaro08]

Which one are you referring to?
RE or RE SAS? Those are internal and i want external but thanks
And now i am glad i gave up on My book Studio Edition 2... it uses Caviar Green Drives only. 

RE or RE SAS same good stuff. We use them on light servers, never had a crash for now!!!

Green series is ONLY good for media playback and NOTHING else. So if you want to play music off of it or you want to store videos on it or pictures, then that's good for it. If you're looking to WORK from it like on PhotoShop, MEGUI, Vegas Pro, or install programs on it, or run your Operation System off of it, or use it for RAM HDD (or whatever it is called) or anything then that's the wrong series and it will utterly fail sooner or later.

Nope, some green series are god even on servers. But most series park their heads too quickly, thus wearing them too fast... So, avoid the green WDs, even on meda reading (especially MP3s, great parking rate)

[Tatsujin]

Which one are you referring to?
RE or RE SAS? Those are internal and i want external but thanks
And now i am glad i gave up on My book Studio Edition 2... it uses Caviar Green Drives only. 

RE or RE SAS same good stuff. We use them on light servers, never had a crash for now!!!

Green series is ONLY good for media playback and NOTHING else. So if you want to play music off of it or you want to store videos on it or pictures, then that's good for it. If you're looking to WORK from it like on PhotoShop, MEGUI, Vegas Pro, or install programs on it, or run your Operation System off of it, or use it for RAM HDD (or whatever it is called) or anything then that's the wrong series and it will utterly fail sooner or later.

Nope, some green series are god even on servers. But most series park their heads too quickly, thus wearing them too fast... So, avoid the green WDs, even on meda reading (especially MP3s, great parking rate)

... Someone translate what this person said. I don't understand what they said.

[xeonoa]

... Someone translate what this person said. I don't understand what they said.

HDDs "park their heads" when not in use (to save power, to protect your data in case of shock damage etc.) and every HDD has a limited parking ability, if I remember correctly 600,000 was the normal limit for WD HDDs, therefore if a HDD parks its head too often it will have a shorter lifespan than other ones. But there are people reporting that their HDD still works fine after a million parks so I'd assume it's not that important.

[megido-rev.M]

Modern HDDs reset their header position on shutdown indeed, but I don't see how that's pertinent.

[Freedom Kira]

I have a laptop... There are 2 internals which i can use like this.. Caviar Green & AV-GP

That makes no sense. Unless you have a giant laptop, you can't stick a Caviar or AVGP (3.5") disk in it. You have to go with the Scorpios (2.5") or SSDs.

[nstgc]

I have a laptop... There are 2 internals which i can use like this.. Caviar Green & AV-GP

That makes no sense. Unless you have a giant laptop, you can't stick a Caviar or AVGP (3.5") disk in it.

Well, they do exist

[Freedom Kira]

I hope his laptop doesn't look like that...

[limefc]

Modern HDDs reset their header position on shutdown indeed, but I don't see how that's pertinent.

In case of WD Greens, heads are not only parked on shutdown, they are parked during normal operation if the HDD is idle for long enough. This introduces a new event that can cause HDD failure. Spin up/spin down and head parking are the most dangerous things to an HDDs integrity.

[Dhruv]

Sorry I was banned for a week so I couldn't post...

Anyways
@Kira: no what I meant to say was about external enclosures for internal drives... Read the post above the one you were referring to
And I do not have a suitcase laptop... Mine is HP Elitebook 8530p and another one from Sony vaio...

And I have never heard about this head park thing it's new to me 

[megido-rev.M]

As I raised last week, I still don't see how that's even logically relevant.

[Dhruv]

^If they park 100 times a day they will die faster as compared to a HDD which parks 50 times or less in a day.
Automatically the life increases as compared to the other one. Atleast this is what i can infer from this.

[megido-rev.M]

That sounds more like putting more mechanical work on something that can't handle it. Parking does nothing to the platters, so it might as well be 1000 times per day.

[Dhruv]

^I'm only drawing conclusion from the statement.... this is the 1st time i've even heard of the term. Since The disks can take upto a million of parks then i suppose it doesn't really matter.

[limefc]

Basically read heads are held above the surface of HDD platters by the airflow generated by rotation, parking lands the read heads off the platter(s). The action of moving them back over the platters from parked state can cause potential damage and head crash.

It's very similar to turning the HDD on and off a lot. That also causes reliability issues.

A HDD is most reliable when it is working 24/7 365 days a year with 0 downtime at a constant temperature between 35 to 40 degrees.

[Dhruv]

Basically read heads are held above the surface of HDD platters by the airflow generated by rotation, parking lands the read heads off the platter(s). The action of moving them back over the platters from parked state can cause potential damage and head crash.

It's very similar to turning the HDD on and off a lot. That also causes reliability issues.

A HDD is most reliable when it is working 24/7 365 days a year with 0 downtime at a constant temperature between 35 to 40 degrees.

You mean I am reducing the life of my hard disk by turning it off for 16 hrs a day and using it only for 8 hrs during the night? 
My purpose is to stream anime off it, storage and seeding.

[limefc]

Yes, you are. That's 2 start/stop cycles per day and 16 hours without positive internal pressure which potentially allows foreign particles to get in.

That's about average usage for a HDD though, it shouldn't last less than 3-4 years unless you get unlucky. It's much worse if you have your HDD turn off while idle in addition to power cycling it twice per 24 hours. That'll really fuck up the spindle motor.

Personally I have 3 hard drives working 24/7 under controlled temperature and 1 hard drive which is turned on/off only for bulk transfers less than once a month. The only one I am worried about is the one for bulk transfers. I've had HDDs shit the bed several times after long term storage.

[Dhruv]

Okay lemme tell you my complete situation
I turn on my HDD at 2 AM and turn it off at 10 AM
Sometimes(once or twice a week) dad turns off it's usage by shutting down my downloads and uploads as he has to see the share market during which the hard disk is turned on with power but is not in usage for transfers.
He does this during the daytime too but my external isn't connected at that time
So what do you recommend?
I should use it 24x7 or like what I am using it right now?
Of course I maintain the temperature by switching I the fans of the room.