Author Topic: Western Digital or Seagate (Read 13108 times)

kitamesume · « **Reply #300 on:** September 03, 2012, 06:56:37 AM »

an AC waveform stabilizer would be the most effective.
http://www.ashleyedison.com/products/rack-mount-voltage-stabiliser.htm

this > surge protector

edit: oh yeah, that reminds me of my UPS, it seems to be a line-interactive type that works on both voltage drop and spikes, meaning it instantaneously switch to the batteries if any fluctuation happens.
i'd notice the UPS "tick" whenever the powerline fluctuates (visible on the lights suddenly dimming), so it does do it's job right.

megido-rev.M · « **Reply #301 on:** September 03, 2012, 03:43:18 PM »

I think the rack is overkill

And yes, the UPS tick would be when there is a switch between the AC line and the battery, as it's roughly the same case for a laptop.

Quote from: Dhruv on September 03, 2012, 04:22:41 AM

I use one HDD at a time.. so they are sufficient...

Depends on what else you plug into it, so I can't really say.

Dhruv · « **Reply #302 on:** September 03, 2012, 04:31:19 PM »

Yes the rack is a bit over the top...

And has far as plugging in goes i plug in my laptop, a light for my table, hard disk and one more thing a stupid ADSL modem. =_=

kitamesume · « **Reply #303 on:** September 03, 2012, 05:29:33 PM »

well, thats barely half a KVA, so i guess a rackmount AC stabilizer 1KVA should suffice for another set of PC XD

megido-rev.M · « **Reply #304 on:** September 03, 2012, 05:32:16 PM »

When you put it that way, I suppose it would come in handy in that case

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Dhruv · « **Reply #305 on:** September 04, 2012, 07:36:36 PM »

I'd rather take it with an entire system or a NAS unit.

kamuixtv99 · « **Reply #306 on:** September 15, 2012, 01:37:23 AM »

Quote from: limefc on August 20, 2012, 05:10:08 AM

Basically read heads are held above the surface of HDD platters by the airflow generated by rotation, parking lands the read heads off the platter(s). The action of moving them back over the platters from parked state can cause potential damage and head crash.

It's very similar to turning the HDD on and off a lot. That also causes reliability issues.

A HDD is most reliable when it is working 24/7 365 days a year with 0 downtime at a constant temperature between 35 to 40 degrees.

I got a newly replaced seagate drive in march 2011, I'm using it on my torrenting PC. My routine is like this I turn it on at 6am then turn it off at 2pm then on again at 7 or 8pm then turn it off at 10pm. Would that be ok? It has an auxilliary fan beside of it, it got 6 bad sectors last May. I used HDD regen and I lost 20GB of the newly regenerated partition. I blame the economy for the result of poor quality products it wasn't like this 6-8 years ago. Before a drive would last at least 5 to 10 years or you let it retire because it's obsolete.

There was a thread that most of you store your anime on hdds and not optical discs (T. Yuden brand). I would like to try it. WD Elements are ok now? Years ago, I heard a lot of horror stories about it. Should I have a separate drive for torrenting and storage?
I guess the obvious answer is yes, Because my rarely use htpc has a seagate drive and still ok after 4 years. Some new drives fail after 4 to 6months and I don't like that, imagine if you lost 1TB of data.

megido-rev.M · « **Reply #307 on:** September 15, 2012, 01:50:42 AM »

Shit, man. May I suggest you read this thread.

Also, random blurbs:

Horror stories for Elements? I never heard those.
lol seagate
<0.5yr failure o.O I say you should change your retailer

kamuixtv99 · « **Reply #308 on:** September 15, 2012, 02:07:31 AM »

Quote from: megido-rev.M on September 15, 2012, 01:50:42 AM

Shit, man. May I suggest you read this thread.

Also, random blurbs:

Horror stories for Elements? I never heard those.
lol seagate
<0.5yr failure o.O I say you should change your retailer

Ok. You see I got questions on my post. I prefer 2.5 hdds than Elements (it requires power), no passports either. Give me a hint, who is winning here Seagate/Samsung or WD?

Dhruv · « **Reply #309 on:** September 15, 2012, 02:27:20 AM »

Go for western digital. And Elements to be specific.

Edit: Or Buy a Caviar Black and put it in an external enclosure.

kamuixtv99 · « **Reply #310 on:** September 15, 2012, 02:48:26 AM »

Elements for storage? I will consider.

What am I paying for the Black? Performance or Quality? Quality...meaning long-time storage not for torrenting or minimal tasks.

megido-rev.M · « **Reply #311 on:** September 15, 2012, 02:54:05 AM »

Both, in HDD sense.

kitamesume · « **Reply #312 on:** September 15, 2012, 03:36:04 AM »

Quote from: kamuixtv99 on September 15, 2012, 02:48:26 AM

Elements for storage? I will consider.

What am I paying for the Black? Performance or Quality? Quality...meaning long-time storage not for torrenting or minimal tasks.

black's main target is high performance continuous usage, meaning they're meant to be extremely durable even under 24/7 usage and has high performance.
if you wan't a storage try WD Reds, or blues although they're more of a middle weight, don't get greens over 2TB.

edit: also blacks would fit the role of torrenting quite nicely, i dunno about reds though but they're meant to be used as a NAS drive.

Dhruv · « **Reply #313 on:** September 15, 2012, 04:55:22 AM »

^+1

I am also tempted to purchase a Black and put it in an enclosure to replace my current Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex Desk. It comes at a price but i am willing to give it a try since Black has such a good reputation.

kitamesume · « **Reply #314 on:** September 15, 2012, 05:21:47 AM »

speaking of HDD lifespans, HDDs that sits still for too long tends to breakout, the springs, bearings and junctions becomes stiff making the motors try harder than what they're designed for.
edit: personally witnessed this on IDE drives that sat on the storage box for more than 2years, they were working fine when i left them.

kamuixtv99 · « **Reply #315 on:** September 15, 2012, 05:43:53 AM »

Thanks for your replies.

Done a little back reading. So Elements/Greens are good for storage and viewing videos when I need to. Drives that use as a main drive (torrenting/encoding/games) are throw aways, it's up to the user's choice if it's Blue or Black (really pricey). Elements seems bulky and needs a power plug (seems annoying for me), what about passports? I bet they are greens too.

kitamesume · « **Reply #316 on:** September 15, 2012, 06:32:54 AM »

im using passports and no issues in >6months of usage.

Dhruv · « **Reply #317 on:** September 15, 2012, 07:18:07 AM »

Quote from: kamuixtv99 on September 15, 2012, 05:43:53 AM

Thanks for your replies.

Done a little back reading. So Elements/Greens are good for storage and viewing videos when I need to. Drives that use as a main drive (torrenting/encoding/games) are throw aways, it's up to the user's choice if it's Blue or Black (really pricey). Elements seems bulky and needs a power plug (seems annoying for me), what about passports? I bet they are greens too.

If you want storage elements is the way to go.
If you want the drive for torrenting then I would suggest Black. Caviar Black not Scorpio Black. Both have a 5 year warranty but caviar Black is better.
If you want to play games and encode stuff from it I would suggest Velociraptor. It's the fastest drive IMO.

Elements is basically a caviar Green drive put into an compact enclosure. While the Caviar Green drives don't have a very good reputation elements is considered as one of the best externals. As far as the Power plug goes every drive with >1TB capacity needs an external power supply.

And about the Passport drives, they don't need any external power and are available in less than or equal to 1TB capacity. I haven't used any so you can refer to kitaMesume post.

kamuixtv99 · « **Reply #318 on:** September 15, 2012, 07:50:16 AM »

K. We are only talking about 2 brands here. I just browsed our local online computer store.

EDIT:
I have 2.5 ide Toshiba but that was long ago it's a 10gb still alive though.

Too bad. I just learned that WD in our country has bad after sales support like their office is a 4 hour commute total (back and forth) and it's only available in that city or I have to pay $30 or more when they ship it to Singapore for warranty purposes (Strange, with Seagate it's free) while Toshiba has no warranty at all. Plus in our local forum they prefer Seagate obviously not all of them are highly intensive users when it comes to hdds. Don't tell me that I'm a Seagate fan it was good years ago.

Dhruv · « **Reply #319 on:** September 15, 2012, 08:01:22 AM »

Get a 3TB Elements if you can. It's for less than $200.
And as far as Toshiba Drives go.. i have no knowledge about them. Wait for someone else to answer your Question or try reading the entire thread. Maybe you'll find the answer.