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uTorrent Becomes Ad-Supported to Rake in Millions
avatarl:
--- Quote from: Garlantec on August 24, 2012, 10:58:56 AM ---People can cry about Ads all they want, in my opinion it's unreasonable.
It's freeware and the ad's aren't really hurting anyone yet.
No one's charged for anything either and in all the years in which I've been using utorrent, I haven't seen any hardcore ads, which completely destroy the program beyond cure.
So far I've only seen the utorrent plus ad in the bottom right corner, which you can even blend-out by simply making 2 clicks.
Don't know what's wrong with that.
Besides, why do you care if they try to earn some money? EVERYONE needs money and obviously will try to look for a way to make some. It's totally fine. As I said before, I've been using uTorrent for ages now and never had any major troubles with it.
And I doubt you whiners had any big issues either, aside from your own incompetence maybe.
Soo.. pull that stick out of your ass and chill.
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There is a problem with your logic though. When you create something and give it out for free without ads, a good number of the people that end up using the software, use it BECAUSE it has no ads. That means that if you add ads or some other form of crapware, you will lose that userbase. The real problem is that you CAN find alternatives that have no ads or crapware.
People need to make money but the fact is competition is relentless and since there are far too many freeware or GPL projects that have no crap like that, putting ads in an application is a pretty sure way to lose people. If your software HAD ads since day 1, it's another story. Generally though, people prefer non-flash ads on the site itself than having whatever crap bundled with their software.
Of course, you can just keep being GENIUS, to put it mildly, like corporations want you and keep installing crap on your system, the rest of us tend to have more brains and aren't going to put up with crap.
Lord of Fire:
--- Quote from: Garlantec on August 24, 2012, 10:58:56 AM ---People can cry about Ads all they want, in my opinion it's unreasonable.
It's freeware and the ad's aren't really hurting anyone yet.
No one's charged for anything either and in all the years in which I've been using utorrent, I haven't seen any hardcore ads, which completely destroy the program beyond cure.
So far I've only seen the utorrent plus ad in the bottom right corner, which you can even blend-out by simply making 2 clicks.
Don't know what's wrong with that.
Besides, why do you care if they try to earn some money? EVERYONE needs money and obviously will try to look for a way to make some. It's totally fine. As I said before, I've been using uTorrent for ages now and never had any major troubles with it.
And I doubt you whiners had any big issues either, aside from your own incompetence maybe.
Soo.. pull that stick out of your ass and chill.
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According to the article on page 1, they don't need to do this at all. They earn enough money with µTorrent Plus, which I do believe is far more effective than ad revenue anyway, especially if no one actually bothers clicking said ads, or block them altogether.
datora:
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Nice strawman, there.
--- Quote from: Garlantec on August 24, 2012, 10:58:56 AM ---People can cry about Ads all they want, in my opinion it's unreasonable.
It's freeware and the ad's aren't really hurting anyone yet.
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Soo.. pull that stick out of your ass and chill.
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Had you actually read for comprehension, you would have noticed that virtually nobody has very serious issues with the ads themselves, especially since they're fairly unobtrusive and can be disabled.
The issue at hand is turning a lightweight, highly efficient, functional utility into bloated crapware, something that's been going on long before some shithead went full retard and decided to turn it into SPAMware on top of all that.
Speaking of crap-covered sticks ... ::)
As was pointed out by avatarl, the reason the software has such a large user base is because it attracted a technically literate community that had need of an alternate to Vuze and other similar bloatware approaches. No torrenting client should be using more than about half of one percent of a modern system's resources. I have 2.0.4 running on a 1.8 GHz P4, and it uses about 3% of the CPU and about 50 MB (max) of memory ... often it is using 25-30 MB; I was using a 1.4 GHz box before that at pretty much the identical resource use stats. AND the interface is elegant and powerful for managing a thousand or more torrents at a time.
All the other shit they've stapled onto it is completely useless, just eye-candy for lazy morons. I have other very lightweight utilities that handle all those tasks that I even care about using. The ads are mostly irrelevant, until they interfere with the function of the app ... such as using bandwidth I need for torrenting, or autoplaying video and Flash, or harvesting any information from my system or IP traffic.
Anyway, as they've discovered, millions of formerly loyal users just simply abandon their product as soon as they fuck it up. A huge percentage have already found other modern, elegant solutions over the past year or two and will never come back. Congratulations utorrent: you have driven away most of the intelligent segment of your base while retaining the stupid and the helpless. You poisoned the vitality of your community feedback and it will now take you years to recover your reputation. If ever. Just look to Vuze.
If I owned utorrent, I would be looking to ass-rape the marketing and development "geniuses" who destroyed not only my product, but the reputation of the company.
megido-rev.M:
--- Quote from: Garlantec on August 24, 2012, 10:58:56 AM ---People can cry about Ads all they want, in my opinion it's unreasonable.
It's freeware and the ad's aren't really hurting anyone yet.
No one's charged for anything either and in all the years in which I've been using utorrent, I haven't seen any hardcore ads, which completely destroy the program beyond cure.
So far I've only seen the utorrent plus ad in the bottom right corner, which you can even blend-out by simply making 2 clicks.
Don't know what's wrong with that.
Besides, why do you care if they try to earn some money? EVERYONE needs money and obviously will try to look for a way to make some. It's totally fine. As I said before, I've been using uTorrent for ages now and never had any major troubles with it.
And I doubt you whiners had any big issues either, aside from your own incompetence maybe.
Soo.. pull that stick out of your ass and chill.
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You don't mind that what was a lightweight and efficient program has now become bloated adware? Pitiful.
Pentium100:
--- Quote from: datora on August 24, 2012, 08:43:06 PM --- No torrenting client should be using more than about half of one percent of a modern system's resources. I have 2.0.4 running on a 1.8 GHz P4, and it uses about 3% of the CPU and about 50 MB (max) of memory ... often it is using 25-30 MB; I was using a 1.4 GHz box before that at pretty much the identical resource use stats. AND the interface is elegant and powerful for managing a thousand or more torrents at a time.
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uTorrent 2.2.1 on my server uses ~1.3GB of RAM. Of course, 1.2GB of that is cache.
Using resources to speed seeding up or reduce the load on the hard drive is OK, assuming the resources are available. What I dislike is wasting of resources - animations on the UI, ads and so on.
uTorrent (at least the older versions) is very good in that regard. A 3x700MHz server could seed at around 10MB/s.
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